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Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Luminesa
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Founded: Dec 09, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Luminesa » Sun May 05, 2019 2:24 pm

Kowani wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Reconstruction was of course also a difficult time for African-Americans, who struggled to get voting rights and decent jobs. Sure, much of the problem came from the Confederate South, but the North after the Civil War only cared so far as they tried to pull States back into the Union. Once that was done, they mostly forgot about the African-Americans. It was a mess on a national scale that saw malice against African-Americans from both sides, both enabled or otherwise.

Andrew Johnson and Hayes killed Reconstruction, sadly.

Pretty much, and made it a lot worse and a lot more complicated than it should have been for basically everyone involved.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. Not that I need the coffee, but you know... :3

So apparently I am an ENFP!

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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson

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Torrocca
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Posts: 26912
Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Torrocca » Sun May 05, 2019 4:18 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:As much as I find Neo-Confederates deplorable (because the rules don't let me express my true feelings) there is something ironic about non, or even anti-,nationalists suddenly acting as though they're extremely nationalistic. What with all of the talk about “traitors,” even from Torra who's an anarchist (therefore, by definition, disloyal to the American state). I'm sorry, I sympathize with your arguments against the Confederacy, but there feels like there is an underlying hypocrisy which is not being addressed.


... Y'know, that's a very fair point, but the context to why I'm referring to them as traitors in a negative way should mend that issue. I'm not calling them traitors in a negative light because treason is an inherently bad thing - it's not, in my opinion. I'm calling them that in a negative manner because they used their states' "freedom" and their treason against the Union as an excuse to violently uphold the abhorrent institution of slavery, and that was practically their only reason for doing such a thing. Their rebellion wasn't about building a better society against the grind of a monstrous government or to genuinely win freedom, it was to keep people in chains. That's why I view their treason negatively.

Hope that clears things up.
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Founded: Jan 04, 2018
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:00 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:As much as I find Neo-Confederates deplorable (because the rules don't let me express my true feelings) there is something ironic about non, or even anti-,nationalists suddenly acting as though they're extremely nationalistic. What with all of the talk about “traitors,” even from Torra who's an anarchist (therefore, by definition, disloyal to the American state). I'm sorry, I sympathize with your arguments against the Confederacy, but there feels like there is an underlying hypocrisy which is not being addressed.


... Y'know, that's a very fair point, but the context to why I'm referring to them as traitors in a negative way should mend that issue. I'm not calling them traitors in a negative light because treason is an inherently bad thing - it's not, in my opinion. I'm calling them that in a negative manner because they used their states' "freedom" and their treason against the Union as an excuse to violently uphold the abhorrent institution of slavery, and that was practically their only reason for doing such a thing. Their rebellion wasn't about building a better society against the grind of a monstrous government or to genuinely win freedom, it was to keep people in chains. That's why I view their treason negatively.

Hope that clears things up.

Hail the great motherland Soviet Union.
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Hanafuridake
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Founded: Sep 09, 2018
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Sun May 05, 2019 5:07 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Big government is treason itself.


Says the “ultra-nationalistic reactionary.”
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Torrocca
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26912
Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Torrocca » Sun May 05, 2019 5:10 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
... Y'know, that's a very fair point, but the context to why I'm referring to them as traitors in a negative way should mend that issue. I'm not calling them traitors in a negative light because treason is an inherently bad thing - it's not, in my opinion. I'm calling them that in a negative manner because they used their states' "freedom" and their treason against the Union as an excuse to violently uphold the abhorrent institution of slavery, and that was practically their only reason for doing such a thing. Their rebellion wasn't about building a better society against the grind of a monstrous government or to genuinely win freedom, it was to keep people in chains. That's why I view their treason negatively.

Hope that clears things up.

Hail the great motherland Soviet Union.


I guess our new local Fascist is going Tankie now.
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Founded: Jan 04, 2018
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:11 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Hail the great motherland Soviet Union.


I guess our new local Fascist is going Tankie now.

R/wooosh
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Jack Thomas Lang
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Posts: 1856
Founded: Apr 18, 2019
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Sun May 05, 2019 5:13 pm

Here's a right-wing topic.

Who is your favourite fictional detective? For example; Maigret, Sherlock Holmes, Miss Marple, etc.

My two favourites are Hercule Poirot and Father Brown, because of their intelligence, quirkiness and kindness. Both being Catholic is a just a coincidence, h-honest.

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:13 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Big government is treason itself.


Says the “ultra-nationalistic reactionary.”

Not being one is treason.
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:13 pm

Ronald regan
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Torrocca
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Posts: 26912
Founded: Dec 01, 2011
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Postby Torrocca » Sun May 05, 2019 5:14 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I guess our new local Fascist is going Tankie now.

R/wooosh


There's nothing "woosh" about you praising the Soviet Union. :)
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Founded: Jan 04, 2018
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:15 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:R/wooosh


There's nothing "woosh" about you praising the Soviet Union. :)

This even dumber than calling me fascist.
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NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
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Postby Torrocca » Sun May 05, 2019 5:16 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
There's nothing "woosh" about you praising the Soviet Union. :)

This even dumber than asking me fascist.


... What the fuck is this even saying?
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Northern Davincia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16189
Founded: Jun 10, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 05, 2019 5:16 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Here's a right-wing topic.

Who is your favourite fictional detective? For example; Maigret, Sherlock Holmes, Miss Marple, etc.

My two favourites are Hercule Poirot and Father Brown, because of their intelligence, quirkiness and kindness. Both being Catholic is a just a coincidence, h-honest.

L Lawliet.
Hoppean Libertarian, Acolyte of von Mises, Protector of Our Sacred Liberties
Economic Left/Right: 9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:19 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:This even dumber than asking me fascist.


... What the fuck is this even saying?

Not a tankie- Stalinist.
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
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Postby Torrocca » Sun May 05, 2019 5:20 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
... What the fuck is this even saying?

Not a tankie- Stalinist.


Only a Stalinist would praise the Soviet Union, however, so clearly you are one. :3
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Genivaria
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Posts: 65912
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Genivaria » Sun May 05, 2019 5:21 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Ronald regan

Please stop spamming.
Liberal Social Democrat. Vague leftist, growing more cynical as each day passes.
The DNC is better than the GOP like Manslaughter is better than Murder: Seems like a lesser crime, but the victim can't tell the difference.

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:21 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Not a tankie- Stalinist.


Only a Stalinist would praise the Soviet Union, however, so clearly you are one. :3

You are the one who loves the Soviet Union I hate them.
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Ronald regan

Please stop spamming.

TIL Reagan is spam
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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Northern Davincia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16189
Founded: Jun 10, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 05, 2019 5:23 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Please stop spamming.

TIL Reagan is spam

Yes, if you're only going to mention a misspelled name without adding anything else of worth.
Hoppean Libertarian, Acolyte of von Mises, Protector of Our Sacred Liberties
Economic Left/Right: 9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
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Postby Torrocca » Sun May 05, 2019 5:26 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Only a Stalinist would praise the Soviet Union, however, so clearly you are one. :3

You are the one who loves the Soviet Union I hate them.


LMAO.

Fucking prove it then.
Communist now and forever.
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - [b]Buenaventura Durruti

"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Genivaria
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 65912
Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Genivaria » Sun May 05, 2019 5:27 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Please stop spamming.

TIL Reagan is spam

You are making an irrelevant post without response or context, you're spamming/
Liberal Social Democrat. Vague leftist, growing more cynical as each day passes.
The DNC is better than the GOP like Manslaughter is better than Murder: Seems like a lesser crime, but the victim can't tell the difference.

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Northern Davincia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16189
Founded: Jun 10, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 05, 2019 5:28 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:You are the one who loves the Soviet Union I hate them.


LMAO.

Fucking prove it then.

Perhaps indulging him is a bad idea.
Hoppean Libertarian, Acolyte of von Mises, Protector of Our Sacred Liberties
Economic Left/Right: 9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Hanafuridake
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5501
Founded: Sep 09, 2018
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Sun May 05, 2019 5:28 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Says the “ultra-nationalistic reactionary.”

Not being one is treason.


You can't be one and support small government.
Nation name in proper language: 花降岳
Mahayana Buddhist
Fan of royalism and distributism

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Joohan
Senator
 
Posts: 4745
Founded: Jan 11, 2018
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Joohan » Sun May 05, 2019 5:29 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Here's a right-wing topic.

Who is your favourite fictional detective? For example; Maigret, Sherlock Holmes, Miss Marple, etc.

My two favourites are Hercule Poirot and Father Brown, because of their intelligence, quirkiness and kindness. Both being Catholic is a just a coincidence, h-honest.


Col. Hans Landa
Make Christendom Great Again!

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism!


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Communist Zombie Horde
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Posts: 944
Founded: Jan 04, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun May 05, 2019 5:29 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:TIL Reagan is spam

Yes, if you're only going to mention a misspelled name without adding anything else of worth.

Wait I posted only that here. I thought I was saving it. Sorry for that.
NS Parliament: Arnold Delbert; National People's Party

This nation is not entirely representative of my views. I've had some fun with the stats and I want to keep them that way.

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