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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 12:35 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:I don't understand the obsession with Sherman as a Yankeeboo hero; him and Grant both were shit Generals that got lucky.


Strategy is just formalized luck, change my goddamn mind.

Most of the Union’s generals.
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 12:36 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:I don't understand the obsession with Sherman as a Yankeeboo hero; him and Grant both were shit Generals that got lucky.

Grant wasn’t even lucky. He just sent waves of troops to outnumber. It’s like the Soviet unskilled mob trope except actually true.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 12:38 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Strategy is just formalized luck, change my goddamn mind.

Most of the Union’s generals.

>> when Lost Causers are so desperate to deny their own losses they denigrate the greatest generals on the side of the Union, one a fearless man with a deep understanding of strategic warfare, the other a military genius who correctly predicted the pattern future wars would undertake both tactically and strategically
>> when they accidentally imply in the process that they were so incompetent that blind luck could absolutely crush them to the point of forcing an unconditional surrender

:rofl:
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Postby Genivaria » Sat May 04, 2019 12:53 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:I don't understand the obsession with Sherman as a Yankeeboo hero; him and Grant both were shit Generals that got lucky.

Grant wasn’t even lucky. He just sent waves of troops to outnumber. It’s like the Soviet unskilled mob trope except actually true.

^This is why apologists shouldn't try to teach history.
General Sherman did nothing wrong, fact.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sat May 04, 2019 12:56 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Strategy is just formalized luck, change my goddamn mind.

Most of the Union’s generals.


Pretty accurate.

Grant is usually held up as some great conqueror, but the entirety of the Overland Campaign sees Lee constantly getting the better of him. Case in point is the Wilderness, where he outnumbered Lee around 2-1 but Lee manages to collapse both of his flanks and ends up forcing Grant to abandon the battlefield because he can't push Lee back. You than get the Courthouse fight, and then after that while maneuvering to the North Anna we see Grant try to be slick by using Hancock's Corps as bait; not only does Lee avoid that trap, he still manages to threaten Hancock to the extent that Grant is forced to give up his plan and attempt to rush to save Hancock. What makes it funnier is Lee had to cross something like three different fords, but still moved faster than Grant. You then get the North Anna action where Lee is able to once again achieve a strong defensive position that forces Grant to divide his army in three different portions, with two over the North Anna itself with only route of escape each, and to the extent that they can't support each other. Lee has interior lines and his flanks are covered by swamps, so he can concentrate on either side. If it wasn't for Lee catching a bout of sickness, Grant would've lost damn near half his army that engagement.

I could go on, but the point is well made. Grant's luck was that by 1864 the South, given its smaller population, was having a harder time sustaining casualties than it could previously. Lee's Army was more worn out than it had been in previous times, and Grant further had the extreme luck of being able to risk taking excessive losses unlike earlier Northern commanders combined with a situation conducive to such; the danger of foreign intervention had receded enough. As it was, Lincoln had to expend serious political capital given widespread outrage at Grant and was decisively helped by Atlanta falling in this regard. As it was, Grant's loss meant we ended up seeing the Siege Warfare around Richmond because he lacked the ability to take the city.

Also, for the record, no, Grant did not invent Trench Warfare nor did he present any innovations in warfare. Trench warfare has been around since at least Medieval times and Grant's maneuverings were no real achievement.

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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 1:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Most of the Union’s generals.

>> when Lost Causers are so desperate to deny their own losses they denigrate the greatest generals on the side of the Union, one a fearless man with a deep understanding of strategic warfare, the other a military genius who correctly predicted the pattern future wars would undertake both tactically and strategically
>> when they accidentally imply in the process that they were so incompetent that blind luck could absolutely crush them to the point of forcing an unconditional surrender

:rofl:

The Union had the advantages in resources and manpower but most all their generals were incompetent shit who got fired a few months after the last one was. The north burnt through generals, the south usually only had a change when they were killed. Luck and all the resources were on their side, just not any brains throughout most of the war. If the south had big railroads, factories, and simply more people and land, they could’ve won. More Union generals were removed from their jobs because they were idiots. The south was great at fighting, their resources fell behind. Northerners weren’t even efficient with their resources and capabilities.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 1:05 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Grant wasn’t even lucky. He just sent waves of troops to outnumber. It’s like the Soviet unskilled mob trope except actually true.

^This is why people who actually talk about what happened shouldn't try to teach history.

Because it’s true? Sherman at least popularized a concept that worked although brutal.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 1:14 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Strategy is just formalized luck, change my goddamn mind.

Most of the Union’s generals.


Grant was not as effective as Lee in maneuver warfare, this is true.
But had a better understanding of attrition and economics.

But Lost Causers forget if not for Lee, Longstreet and Stonewall Jackson the Confederacy would have collapsed much earlier, and Lee himself often lucky.

It was luck and yes, skill of a few generals that kept the Confederacy alive as long as it did.
Notice that for Lost Causers the focus almost entirely on the Army of Northern Virginia.

As if that was the only army in the only theater.

Ignoring how the CSA often got thumped elsewhere.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 1:27 pm

Novus America wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Most of the Union’s generals.


Grant was not as effective as Lee in maneuver warfare, this is true.
But had a better understanding of attrition and economics.

But Lost Causers forget if not for Lee, Longstreet and Stonewall Jackson the Confederacy would have collapsed much earlier, and Lee himself often lucky.

It was luck and yes, skill of a few generals that kept the Confederacy alive as long as it did.
Notice that for Lost Causers the focus almost entirely on the Army of Northern Virginia.

As if that was the only army in the only theater.

Ignoring how the CSA often got thumped elsewhere.

Saying that the csa got thumped sounds wrong.
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat May 04, 2019 2:43 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:It's not an either-or situation. We can imprison the KKK and Antifa together and watch what happens.

10/10, I bet we can make money filming it too.


Backstabbing obvious allies who would help you take down the KKK

CM pls ;~;
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 2:53 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:10/10, I bet we can make money filming it too.


Backstabbing obvious allies who would help you take down the KKK

CM pls ;~;


For those wishing to preserve America, Communists and revolutionary anarchists are also opponents, not allies.

And before you say “but we allied with the Soviets” the Soviets actually were useful in battle.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. Pragmatism is my ideology.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat May 04, 2019 2:56 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Backstabbing obvious allies who would help you take down the KKK

CM pls ;~;


For those wishing to preserve America, Communists and revolutionary anarchists are also opponents, not allies.

And before you say “but we allied with the Soviets” the Soviets actually were useful in battle.


If you wanted to play it smart, you'd use the leftists as cannon-fodder against the KKK and Neo-Nazis and whatnot, duh. Not backstab allies of convenience and make your fight 100x harder. :3
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You probably have my idea of Communism wrong.
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat May 04, 2019 2:59 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Backstabbing obvious allies who would help you take down the KKK

CM pls ;~;


For those wishing to preserve America, Communists and revolutionary anarchists are also opponents, not allies.

And before you say “but we allied with the Soviets” the Soviets actually were useful in battle.

This ^^ Many communists, and anarchists want to destroy America and its culture. Hell, Antifa attacked a liberal just for carrying an American flag on American soil.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 2:59 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
For those wishing to preserve America, Communists and revolutionary anarchists are also opponents, not allies.

And before you say “but we allied with the Soviets” the Soviets actually were useful in battle.


If you wanted to play it smart, you'd use the leftists as cannon-fodder against the KKK and Neo-Nazis and whatnot, duh. Not backstab allies of convenience and make your fight 100x harder. :3


Hence my suggestion we dump them all on some isolated island.

ANTIFA are too lame to even work as canon fodder TBH.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat May 04, 2019 3:00 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
If you wanted to play it smart, you'd use the leftists as cannon-fodder against the KKK and Neo-Nazis and whatnot, duh. Not backstab allies of convenience and make your fight 100x harder. :3


Hence my suggestion we dump them all on some isolated island.

ANTIFA are too lame to even work as canon fodder TBH.


This is just a waste of potential cannon fodder and further proof why the Communists will win. ;)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 3:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:10/10, I bet we can make money filming it too.


Backstabbing obvious allies who would help you take down the KKK

CM pls ;~;

>> obvious allies
>> attacking the peoples infrastructure

Literal reactionary scum
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 3:04 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Hence my suggestion we dump them all on some isolated island.

ANTIFA are too lame to even work as canon fodder TBH.


This is just a waste of potential cannon fodder and further proof why the Communists will win. ;)


Again, they lack potential as cannon fodder.
Communism is dead anyways.

The fight now is authoritarian capitalism against less authoritarian capitalism.

And we know ANTIFA will side with the authoritarian capitalists against us.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. Pragmatism is my ideology.

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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat May 04, 2019 3:07 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
This is just a waste of potential cannon fodder and further proof why the Communists will win. ;)


Again, they lack potential as cannon fodder.


This lack of strategy is precisely why Communism will win. :3

Communism is dead anyways.


yeet

The fight now is authoritarian capitalism against less authoritarian capitalism.


Well, those monstrous ideologies can tear each other apart for a good while, I suppose. We'll just let them soften each other up well enough for a pair of killing blows at a later date. :3

Conserative Morality wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Backstabbing obvious allies who would help you take down the KKK

CM pls ;~;

>> obvious allies
>> attacking the peoples infrastructure

Literal reactionary scum


B-But they fight reactionaries ;~;
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 3:10 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Again, they lack potential as cannon fodder.


This lack of strategy is precisely why Communism will win. :3

Communism is dead anyways.


yeet

The fight now is authoritarian capitalism against less authoritarian capitalism.


Well, those monstrous ideologies can tear each other apart for a good while, I suppose. We'll just let them soften each other up well enough for a pair of killing blows at a later date. :3

Conserative Morality wrote:>> obvious allies
>> attacking the peoples infrastructure

Literal reactionary scum


B-But they fight reactionaries ;~;


If authoritarian capitalism wins you will be thrown in Gulags, quite ironically.

No, they break windows and topple trash cans.
Smashing a Starbucks window, (only to buy its shit a few days later) as much as Starbucks is shit, does not defeat the KKK.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. Pragmatism is my ideology.

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Postby Torrocca » Sat May 04, 2019 3:16 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
This lack of strategy is precisely why Communism will win. :3



yeet



Well, those monstrous ideologies can tear each other apart for a good while, I suppose. We'll just let them soften each other up well enough for a pair of killing blows at a later date. :3



B-But they fight reactionaries ;~;


If authoritarian capitalism wins you will be thrown in Gulags, quite ironically.


Nah, not if it's been weakened from fighting the less authoritarian capitalism. This is strategy 101, famalam. :3

No, they break windows and topple trash cans.
Smashing a Starbucks window, (only to buy its shit a few days later) as much as Starbucks is shit, does not defeat the KKK.


Starbucks is just a front for KKK activities!
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You probably have my idea of Communism wrong.
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 3:19 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
If authoritarian capitalism wins you will be thrown in Gulags, quite ironically.


Nah, not if it's been weakened from fighting the less authoritarian capitalism. This is strategy 101, famalam. :3

No, they break windows and topple trash cans.
Smashing a Starbucks window, (only to buy its shit a few days later) as much as Starbucks is shit, does not defeat the KKK.


Starbucks is just a front for KKK activities!


It will not actually be weakened though.
Often the winner comes out stronger than before.

Certainly not weak enough for a dead Victorian ideology to come back.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. Pragmatism is my ideology.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat May 04, 2019 3:26 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Nah, not if it's been weakened from fighting the less authoritarian capitalism. This is strategy 101, famalam. :3



Starbucks is just a front for KKK activities!


It will not actually be weakened though.
Often the winner comes out stronger than before.


... Not really though?

Certainly not weak enough for a dead Victorian ideology to come back.


>Communism
>Dead

lmao
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You probably have my idea of Communism wrong.
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 3:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
It will not actually be weakened though.
Often the winner comes out stronger than before.


... Not really though?

Certainly not weak enough for a dead Victorian ideology to come back.


>Communism
>Dead

lmao


Yes really though.
After all we used China against the Soviets only to discover China was actually far more dangerous. And not weakened, only strengthened.

The Soviet Union came out of WWII a superpower.
So did the US.

The winner in war is not always weakened by the war.

The let them fight each other thing has limitations.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it backfires spectacularly.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. Pragmatism is my ideology.

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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rostavykhan » Sat May 04, 2019 3:31 pm

> TFW not just nationalizing the corporations and executing corporate leaders as enemies of America and her people

smh no need to go full Commie or Lbertarian when you can use American Exceptionalism as your rallying cry to bring the seditious corporations to heel for the benefit of The State. All within, nothing outside.

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New York Times Democracy

Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sat May 04, 2019 3:36 pm

Tbh I don’t care that antifa atttacks Starbucks, which is a threat to humanity, it’s just that spraypainting A’s on the sidewalk is annoying and it really ruins downtown. Overturning trash can makes a mess and I think it’s illegal. Smashing windows definitely is illegal and it could injure someone. A good portion of antifa are vandals who should be penalized.
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