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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Grenartia
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Postby Grenartia » Sat May 04, 2019 8:04 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:That's the selling point for me tbh.

This needs an elaboration, but I don't feel like I want to know what the elaboration is.


Only Americans understand.
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 8:05 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:This needs an elaboration, but I don't feel like I want to know what the elaboration is.

Conserative Morality wrote:How many KKK members did Carter shoot?

Who else would be doing the shooting if not the army? I don't want vigilantes doing the job.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 8:23 am

Fahran wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:I think this was meant to be sarcastic, but it's not obvious enough whether it's tongue-in-cheek sarcasm or legit "communists are a threat to society" trolling. Given your track record, I'll let this off with just an Ominous Looming and a reminder that sarcasm does not convey well via text and to be more mindful of your wording.

My remark was more so tongue-in-cheek than sincere, and I intended it to come off more as playful banter than as a serious critique of communism or as bait to anger other posters. While I do believe that communism implicitly opposes the prevailing social order, an inextricable result of its advocacy for the abolition of class distinctions and hierarchical relationships, I would not employ the word "pinkos" in a serious critique of an ideology nor would I target communists themselves in a serious critique of their ideology. I have, in the past, made clear that I can engage in respectful and mutually cordial conversations on this subject - as many here can testify. That said, I do understand that my phrasing and playfulness may not have been conveyed adequately without some prior acquaintance with my style of posting. Thank you for your time and for your forbearance, Reppy. I'll try to keep your advice in mind.

What the fuck? It’s obvious the mods don’t and won’t consider any of this. They’ve gotten on my case twice for simple anti-communism. You can’t say ‘I don’t like commies’ now.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 8:26 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:This needs an elaboration, but I don't feel like I want to know what the elaboration is.

Conserative Morality wrote:How many KKK members did Carter shoot?

Who else would be doing the shooting if not the army? I don't want vigilantes doing the job.

Maybe you don’t need to shoot them because they aren’t liberals.
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sat May 04, 2019 8:26 am

Is it just me, or does ancient Rome seem like it had its own version of the Yellow Peril? The stereotyping of the East (Egypt, Syria, etc.) has a lot in common with later stereotypes of “Orientals.”
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 8:30 am

Hanafuridake wrote:Is it just me, or does ancient Rome seem like it had its own version of the Yellow Peril? The stereotyping of the East (Egypt, Syria, etc.) has a lot in common with later stereotypes of “Orientals.”

Is it just me, or does almost every Asian superpower seem like it had its own version of the White Peril? The stereotyping of the West (America, Britain, etc.) has a lot in common with later stereotypes of “white imperialists.”
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 8:30 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Maybe you don’t need to shoot them because they aren’t liberals.

>> when someone thinks the KKK isn't a terrorist organization deserving of no mercy

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Hanafuridake wrote:Is it just me, or does ancient Rome seem like it had its own version of the Yellow Peril? The stereotyping of the East (Egypt, Syria, etc.) has a lot in common with later stereotypes of “Orientals.”

Oriental Despots out pls
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat May 04, 2019 8:32 am

Hanafuridake wrote:Is it just me, or does ancient Rome seem like it had its own version of the Yellow Peril? The stereotyping of the East (Egypt, Syria, etc.) has a lot in common with later stereotypes of “Orientals.”

The same might be true with the Greeks and Persians.
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Who else would be doing the shooting if not the army? I don't want vigilantes doing the job.

Maybe you don’t need to shoot them because they aren’t liberals.

The KKK are the worst of savages. The law ought to acknowledge them as such.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat May 04, 2019 8:34 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:This needs an elaboration, but I don't feel like I want to know what the elaboration is.

Conserative Morality wrote:How many KKK members did Carter shoot?

Who else would be doing the shooting if not the army? I don't want vigilantes doing the job.

Fair enough. Still, saying "I wish there were a lot of KKK members in the south so the army could go in and bust 'em." Seems a bit weird.
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Novus America
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 8:35 am

Grenartia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Reconstruction America best America


1976-77 America best America.


Talk about a hot take. Was it the crime wave or the economic malaise?
The fact the NYC was on the verge of financial collapse?
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 8:35 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Fair enough. Still, saying "I wish there were a lot of KKK members in the south so the army could go in and bust 'em." Seems a bit weird.

It's why I only bolded the latter part. Fewer KKK members, more busting is my preference! :)
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 04, 2019 8:38 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:Is it just me, or does ancient Rome seem like it had its own version of the Yellow Peril? The stereotyping of the East (Egypt, Syria, etc.) has a lot in common with later stereotypes of “Orientals.”

The same might be true with the Greeks and Persians.
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Maybe you don’t need to shoot them because they aren’t liberals.

The KKK are the worst of savages. The law ought to acknowledge them as such.


That is true, thankfully the have been reduced to small scattered groups.
There are still too many (one is too many) claiming to be KKK though.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. Pragmatism is my ideology.

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Washington Resistance Army
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 04, 2019 8:41 am

Novus America wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The same might be true with the Greeks and Persians.

The KKK are the worst of savages. The law ought to acknowledge them as such.


That is true, thankfully the have been reduced to small scattered groups.
There are still too many (one is too many) claiming to be KKK though.


iirc the Klan (or, rather, Klans) has actually been making a pretty steady comeback in membership numbers over the past few years

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Grenartia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Sat May 04, 2019 8:42 am

Novus America wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
1976-77 America best America.


Talk about a hot take. Was it the crime wave or the economic malaise?
The fact the NYC was on the verge of financial collapse?


I'm not saying it was perfect.
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 8:43 am

I'd like to take a moment to remind everybody that Philip The Arab was a well-respected Emperor whose downfall was due to poor circumstances, that Julia Domna was the most revered Empress, MOTHER OF THE ARMY CAMPS, MOTHER OF THE FATHERLAND; and that her relatives and descendants were not discriminated against for being of Syrian descent. Roman ideas on the near east were fueled by the standard of divine kingship championed by the Egyptians, Seleucids, and Parthians.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 8:43 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Maybe you don’t need to shoot them because they aren’t liberals.

>> when someone thinks the KKK isn't a terrorist organization deserving of no mercy

Image
Hanafuridake wrote:Is it just me, or does ancient Rome seem like it had its own version of the Yellow Peril? The stereotyping of the East (Egypt, Syria, etc.) has a lot in common with later stereotypes of “Orientals.”

Oriental Despots out pls

Well why do you need to shoot them all? It would be a witch hunt done by yanks and half the south probably would be murdered for supporting slavery. ANTIFA and other leftists are terrorists- why can’t the military not shoot them even though they are less popular than the kkk was at the time. Arrest them if you catch them but a man hunt going for third of the south would be dumb.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat May 04, 2019 8:43 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Novus America wrote:
That is true, thankfully the have been reduced to small scattered groups.
There are still too many (one is too many) claiming to be KKK though.


iirc the Klan (or, rather, Klans) has actually been making a pretty steady comeback in membership numbers over the past few years

Which necessitates a new federal crackdown and occupation of the south.
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 8:45 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Well why do you need to shoot them all? It would be a witch hunt done by yanks and half the south probably would be murdered for supporting slavery.

I don't get it. Is there a problem with shooting slavers?
ANTIFA and other leftists are terrorists- why can’t the military not shoot them even though they are less popular than the kkk was at the time.

Because popularity doesn't decide whether or not a group deserves the bullet?
Arrest them if you catch them but a man hunt going for third of the south would be dumb.

>> when a third of the South is involved in the KKK

Billy...

Get the Gatlings.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 8:45 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
iirc the Klan (or, rather, Klans) has actually been making a pretty steady comeback in membership numbers over the past few years

Which necessitates a new federal crackdown and occupation of the south.

Why is the south always the target of the murderous north. Might as well name you North Korea.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat May 04, 2019 8:45 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:>> when someone thinks the KKK isn't a terrorist organization deserving of no mercy

Image

Oriental Despots out pls

Well why do you need to shoot them all? It would be a witch hunt done by yanks and half the south probably would be murdered for supporting slavery. ANTIFA and other leftists are terrorists- why can’t the military not shoot them even though they are less popular than the kkk was at the time. Arrest them if you catch them but a man hunt going for third of the south would be dumb.

It's not an either-or situation. We can imprison the KKK and Antifa together and watch what happens.
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Conserative Morality
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 8:46 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Well why do you need to shoot them all? It would be a witch hunt done by yanks and half the south probably would be murdered for supporting slavery. ANTIFA and other leftists are terrorists- why can’t the military not shoot them even though they are less popular than the kkk was at the time. Arrest them if you catch them but a man hunt going for third of the south would be dumb.

It's not an either-or situation. We can imprison the KKK and Antifa together and watch what happens.

10/10, I bet we can make money filming it too.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Corporate Police State

Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 8:47 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Well why do you need to shoot them all? It would be a witch hunt done by yanks and half the south probably would be murdered for supporting slavery. ANTIFA and other leftists are terrorists- why can’t the military not shoot them even though they are less popular than the kkk was at the time. Arrest them if you catch them but a man hunt going for third of the south would be dumb.

It's not an either-or situation. We can imprison the KKK and Antifa together and watch what happens.

I don’t think the lefties will be ok with that. Remember- terrorist organizations are fine if they say they are anti-racist.
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Communist Zombie Horde
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 04, 2019 8:47 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:It's not an either-or situation. We can imprison the KKK and Antifa together and watch what happens.

10/10, I bet we can make money filming it too.

Is that even legal or possible?
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Washington Resistance Army
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 04, 2019 8:48 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:It's not an either-or situation. We can imprison the KKK and Antifa together and watch what happens.

I don’t think the lefties will be ok with that. Remember- terrorist organizations are fine if they say they are anti-racist.


Imprison all the lefties too.

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Conserative Morality
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Conserative Morality » Sat May 04, 2019 8:48 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:10/10, I bet we can make money filming it too.

Is that even legal or possible?

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