Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[Painisia]

Well, It seems that I am a fan of making predictions about the future. Both in the societal and political context. So I am going to ask you all about something.

It seems that left-wing students have adopted an almost authoritarian attitude towards other students whose views do not correspond to their own. We are seeing the growth of echo-chambers everywhere. Some universities, in the UK and other countries, have allowed the creation of ideological "safe-spaces". There is also a great marginalization of persons with political views deemed "unmodern" and "incorrect". Of course I do not belong to the alt-right, but now many social liberals and socialists are deeming thinkers such as Jordan Peterson as "far-right". Look at the recent events in New Zealand, and you will see that I am not rambling conspiracy theories here.

As a result of this pluralism of ideological viewpoints being shattered, many have flocked to their own echo-chambers as well. As the rhetoric is getting more aggressive from the Left, the more the Right will strike back. I have observed that far-right echo-chambers have seduced a huge chunk of people into its abyss, mainly young men, whom they feel that everybody in this world have rejected them. I could write more about incels being the result of a harsh market-competition as a result of the Sexual Revolution. But this post will not be dedicated to that. Back to the post, we can already see that far-right echo-chambers are experiencing a huge influx of supporters. As the echo-chambers will inflate, so will the resistance. The progressive Left will try to issue more restrictions and end up looking like autocrats to many people.

After all, millennial socialism is not alone:
https://www.europenowjournal.org/2018/0 ... he-future/

At last, my question will be:

Will there eventually be a huge conflict between far-right authoritarians and progressive socialists in the future?

The thread "Is Fascism Inevitable?" got me thinking a bit. Of course my generation is not prone to far-right seduction. But I think the future will bring many events (mostly climate change, which will have social implications as well) which will cause my next generations to doubt democracy.

[Valrifell]

Oh boy, is it time for posters to indirectly fantasize about my brutal murder?

[Totally Not OEP]

Will there eventually be a huge conflict between far-right authoritarians and progressive socialists in the future?

Probably. Polarization is reaching serious levels, and we've seen greatly increased direct street fighting as of late; things seemed to have cooled a bit in the last year, but various events, such as the aforementioned New Zealand, show the currents remain there. Demographics also portend this.

[Conserative Morality]

Well, It seems that I am a fan of making predictions about the future. Both in the societal and political context. So I am going to ask you all about something.

It seems that left-wing students have adopted an almost authoritarian attitude towards other students whose views do not correspond to their own. We are seeing the growth of echo-chambers everywhere. Some universities, in the UK and other countries, have allowed the creation of ideological "safe-spaces". There is also a great marginalization of persons with political views deemed "unmodern" and "incorrect". Of course I do not belong to the alt-right, but now many social liberals and socialists are deeming thinkers such as Jordan Peterson as "far-right". Look at the recent events in New Zealand, and you will see that I am not rambling conspiracy theories here.

As a result of this pluralism of ideological viewpoints being shattered, many have flocked to their own echo-chambers as well. As the rhetoric is getting more aggressive from the Left, the more the Right will strike back. I have observed that far-right echo-chambers have seduced a huge chunk of people into its abyss, mainly young men, whom they feel that everybody in this world have rejected them. I could write more about incels being the result of a harsh market-competition as a result of the Sexual Revolution. But this post will not be dedicated to that. Back to the post, we can already see that far-right echo-chambers are experiencing a huge influx of supporters. As the echo-chambers will inflate, so will the resistance. The progressive Left will try to issue more restrictions and end up looking like autocrats to many people.

After all, millennial socialism is not alone:
https://www.europenowjournal.org/2018/0 ... he-future/

At last, my question will be:

Will there eventually be a huge conflict between far-right authoritarians and progressive socialists in the future?

The thread "Is Fascism Inevitable?" got me thinking a bit. Of course my generation is not prone to far-right seduction. But I think the future will bring many events (mostly climate change, which will have social implications as well) which will cause my next generations to doubt democracy.

"The right will strike back instead of having gotten in free hits for the past twenty years from their echo chambers and getting whingy now because they're getting a taste of their own medicine"

"Jordan Peterson isn't an alt-right muppet"

"Incels were caused by the sexual revolution"

lol

Sorry that liberalism is beginning to find its sense of moral conviction again.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Well, It seems that I am a fan of making predictions about the future. Both in the societal and political context. So I am going to ask you all about something.

It seems that left-wing students have adopted an almost authoritarian attitude towards other students whose views do not correspond to their own. We are seeing the growth of echo-chambers everywhere. Some universities, in the UK and other countries, have allowed the creation of ideological "safe-spaces". There is also a great marginalization of persons with political views deemed "unmodern" and "incorrect". Of course I do not belong to the alt-right, but now many social liberals and socialists are deeming thinkers such as Jordan Peterson as "far-right". Look at the recent events in New Zealand, and you will see that I am not rambling conspiracy theories here.

As a result of this pluralism of ideological viewpoints being shattered, many have flocked to their own echo-chambers as well. As the rhetoric is getting more aggressive from the Left, the more the Right will strike back. I have observed that far-right echo-chambers have seduced a huge chunk of people into its abyss, mainly young men, whom they feel that everybody in this world have rejected them. I could write more about incels being the result of a harsh market-competition as a result of the Sexual Revolution. But this post will not be dedicated to that. Back to the post, we can already see that far-right echo-chambers are experiencing a huge influx of supporters. As the echo-chambers will inflate, so will the resistance. The progressive Left will try to issue more restrictions and end up looking like autocrats to many people.

After all, millennial socialism is not alone:
https://www.europenowjournal.org/2018/0 ... he-future/

At last, my question will be:

Will there eventually be a huge conflict between far-right authoritarians and progressive socialists in the future?

The thread "Is Fascism Inevitable?" got me thinking a bit. Of course my generation is not prone to far-right seduction. But I think the future will bring many events (mostly climate change, which will have social implications as well) which will cause my next generations to doubt democracy.

The sexual revolution contributed to it, but incels existed well-before it and the prototypical idea is the result of the social isolation and breakdown of community ties in the industrial revolution.

[Painisia]

Well, It seems that I am a fan of making predictions about the future. Both in the societal and political context. So I am going to ask you all about something.

It seems that left-wing students have adopted an almost authoritarian attitude towards other students whose views do not correspond to their own. We are seeing the growth of echo-chambers everywhere. Some universities, in the UK and other countries, have allowed the creation of ideological "safe-spaces". There is also a great marginalization of persons with political views deemed "unmodern" and "incorrect". Of course I do not belong to the alt-right, but now many social liberals and socialists are deeming thinkers such as Jordan Peterson as "far-right". Look at the recent events in New Zealand, and you will see that I am not rambling conspiracy theories here.

As a result of this pluralism of ideological viewpoints being shattered, many have flocked to their own echo-chambers as well. As the rhetoric is getting more aggressive from the Left, the more the Right will strike back. I have observed that far-right echo-chambers have seduced a huge chunk of people into its abyss, mainly young men, whom they feel that everybody in this world have rejected them. I could write more about incels being the result of a harsh market-competition as a result of the Sexual Revolution. But this post will not be dedicated to that. Back to the post, we can already see that far-right echo-chambers are experiencing a huge influx of supporters. As the echo-chambers will inflate, so will the resistance. The progressive Left will try to issue more restrictions and end up looking like autocrats to many people.

After all, millennial socialism is not alone:
https://www.europenowjournal.org/2018/0 ... he-future/

At last, my question will be:

Will there eventually be a huge conflict between far-right authoritarians and progressive socialists in the future?

The thread "Is Fascism Inevitable?" got me thinking a bit. Of course my generation is not prone to far-right seduction. But I think the future will bring many events (mostly climate change, which will have social implications as well) which will cause my next generations to doubt democracy.

"The right will strike back instead of having gotten in free hits for the past twenty years from their echo chambers and getting whingy now because they're getting a taste of their own medicine"

"Jordan Peterson isn't an alt-right muppet"

"Incels were caused by the sexual revolution"

lol

Sorry that liberalism is beginning to find its sense of moral conviction again.

Well, what other reasons caused incels then Mister?

[Genivaria]

Honestly, we should have tried and executed every last member of the SS after WW2.

CM literally only has correct opinions and it's scary.

Allowing SS thugs to live is in itself an atrocity.
We should follow what they did in the film Fury, see SS lighting bolts and shoot them.

[Conserative Morality]

Well, what other reasons caused incels then Mister?

The downfall of arranged marriages caused the regrettable but mostly innocent phenomenon, the rise of the internet caused the repulsive circlejerk.

[Bienenhalde]

Can I just ask one question.

Does most of the right wing deny climate change, or is that just a bunch of nut jobs who either think it's something to do with "dem globalists" or they're tea party/corporate shills?

I think climate change denialists are corporate shills; some of them know what they are doing, but many of them just seem to be brainwashed.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Well, what other reasons caused incels then Mister?

The downfall of arranged marriages caused the regrettable but mostly innocent phenomenon, the rise of the internet caused the repulsive circlejerk.

I would say downfall of arranged marriages was an effect rather than a cause, and was only symptom of the breakdown of local social networks that created the arranged marriage.

[Conserative Morality]

The downfall of arranged marriages caused the regrettable but mostly innocent phenomenon, the rise of the internet caused the repulsive circlejerk.

I would say downfall of arranged marriages was an effect rather than a cause, and was only symptom of the breakdown of local social networks that created the arranged marriage.

I disagree - arranged marriage in the West began falling apart before industrialization and mobile labor pools broke down local social networks; and furthermore, persisted in many non-Western countries which suffered those selfsame problems.

[Painisia]

Well, what other reasons caused incels then Mister?

The downfall of arranged marriages caused the regrettable but mostly innocent phenomenon, the rise of the internet caused the repulsive circlejerk.

Mostly innocent?

Yeah, they sure are not dangerous. But some have taken their convictions into reality:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incel-th ... -1.4992184


May I also remind you that the decline of arranged marriages are the result of promiscuity's widespread popularity?

[United Muscovite Nations]

I would say downfall of arranged marriages was an effect rather than a cause, and was only symptom of the breakdown of local social networks that created the arranged marriage.

I disagree - arranged marriage in the West began falling apart before industrialization and mobile labor pools broke down local social networks; and furthermore, persisted in many non-Western countries which suffered those selfsame problems.

Perhaps, but even so, the incel/love shy/ whatever you want to call it phenomenon still didn't exist quite yet, it wasn't until later that it begins to really take form and become a serious social ill.

[Conserative Morality]

Mostly innocent?

Yeah, they sure are not dangerous. But some have taken their convictions into reality:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incel-th ... -1.4992184

The Incel community and the phenomenon of individuals without the confidence to enter the sexual market are separate.

May I also remind you that the decline of arranged marriages are the result of promiscuity's widespread popularity?

Tell me more about arranged marriages in the 1950s, or sexual promiscuity in the 18th century. I Am Very Interested.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The downfall of arranged marriages caused the regrettable but mostly innocent phenomenon, the rise of the internet caused the repulsive circlejerk.

Mostly innocent?

Yeah, they sure are not dangerous. But some have taken their convictions into reality:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incel-th ... -1.4992184


May I also remind you that the decline of arranged marriages are the result of promiscuity's widespread popularity?

How can that be? Arranged marriage fell out of style long before promiscuity became the norm.

[Totally Not OEP]

CM literally only has correct opinions and it's scary.

Allowing SS thugs to live is in itself an atrocity.
We should follow what they did in the film Fury, see SS lighting bolts and shoot them.

To be fair this would include shooting teenagers conscripted at the very end, as well as members of units such as Wiking which had generally clean records.

[Proctopeo]

Mostly innocent?

Yeah, they sure are not dangerous. But some have taken their convictions into reality:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incel-th ... -1.4992184


May I also remind you that the decline of arranged marriages are the result of promiscuity's widespread popularity?

How can that be? Arranged marriage fell out of style long before promiscuity became the norm.

arraigned married sunk with the titenic

[Conserative Morality]

I disagree - arranged marriage in the West began falling apart before industrialization and mobile labor pools broke down local social networks; and furthermore, persisted in many non-Western countries which suffered those selfsame problems.

Perhaps, but even so, the incel/love shy/ whatever you want to call it phenomenon still didn't exist quite yet, it wasn't until later that it begins to really take form and become a serious social ill.

It only didn't exist as a community, or a mindset - the percentage of individuals who never married in previous eras of the modern age was, in some cases, greater than modern estimates of those who have never been in a committed relationship.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Perhaps, but even so, the incel/love shy/ whatever you want to call it phenomenon still didn't exist quite yet, it wasn't until later that it begins to really take form and become a serious social ill.

It only didn't exist as a community, or a mindset - the percentage of individuals who never married in previous eras of the modern age was, in some cases, greater than modern estimates of those who have never been in a committed relationship.

Yes, but it wasn't considered not normal to never marry back in those days, and, in some cases, it was encouraged, such as monastics, clergy, etc.

[Conserative Morality]

Yes, but it wasn't considered not normal to never marry back in those days, and, in some cases, it was encouraged, such as monastics, clergy, etc.

Press X to doubt. Outside of particular circumstances, like monastics, individuals in the 19th century Anglosphere were very much expected to marry, and doubly so for women.

[New yugoslavaia]

Can I just ask one question.

Does most of the right wing deny climate change, or is that just a bunch of nut jobs who either think it's something to do with "dem globalists" or they're tea party/corporate shills?

I think climate change denialists are corporate shills; some of them know what they are doing, but many of them just seem to be brainwashed.

Well, I was just on a site that was predominantly right wing and some were saying that it was fake and made up by the globalists for some reason. One said they did it to make money.
Then again, two of then were fascist and the aforementioned individual was one of the those two, and to my knowledge facists aren't too fond of capitalism.


BTW, wouldn't it be more profitable to deny climate change as fossil rules are more profitable. I don't know, maybe those "globalists" realized that fossil fuels are finite.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Yes, but it wasn't considered not normal to never marry back in those days, and, in some cases, it was encouraged, such as monastics, clergy, etc.

Press X to doubt. Outside of particular circumstances, like monastics, individuals in the 19th century Anglosphere were very much expected to marry, and doubly so for women.

I didn't mean the 19th century. The incel phenomenon existed by then and was widely discussed in literature. Some of Dostoevsky's major books revolve around such persons.

[Conserative Morality]

Press X to doubt. Outside of particular circumstances, like monastics, individuals in the 19th century Anglosphere were very much expected to marry, and doubly so for women.

I didn't mean the 19th century. The incel phenomenon existed by then and was widely discussed in literature. Some of Dostoevsky's major books revolve around such persons.

But in Dostoevsky's era and region, local ties were still very strong in comparison to other modern countries?

[The South Falls]

I didn't mean the 19th century. The incel phenomenon existed by then and was widely discussed in literature. Some of Dostoevsky's major books revolve around such persons.

But in Dostoevsky's era and region, local ties were still very strong in comparison to other modern countries?

Among the peasant and somewhat lower class, yes. Those of his standing? Most likely not.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I didn't mean the 19th century. The incel phenomenon existed by then and was widely discussed in literature. Some of Dostoevsky's major books revolve around such persons.

But in Dostoevsky's era and region, local ties were still very strong in comparison to other modern countries?

In the countryside, yes, but Dostoevsky was largely writing about the breakdown in local ties in major cities.