Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[Nea Byzantia]

The Legions have already acclaimed me Emperor. =^)

GIVE US AN EMPEROR OF HUMBLE BEGINNINGS

Rome is dumb, Parthia is better

New Rome (Constantinople) is the best...Remember 627 AD...

[Conserative Morality]

New Rome (Constantinople) is the best...Remember 627 AD...

#notmyimperator

[Nea Byzantia]

New Rome (Constantinople) is the best...Remember 627 AD...

#notmyimperator

Herakleios isn't the Imperator for me either

[Sicaris]

The true imperator is Genghis Khan

[Uxupox]

Rome is dumb, Parthia is better

New Rome (Constantinople) is the best...Remember 627 AD...

The 4th Crusade did nothing wrong.

The only good King of the Romans was Justinian.

[Nea Byzantia]

New Rome (Constantinople) is the best...Remember 627 AD...

The 4th Crusade did nothing wrong.

The only good King of the Romans was Justinian.

By "King", you mean "Vassileos"?

[Salus Maior]

New Rome (Constantinople) is the best...Remember 627 AD...

The 4th Crusade did nothing wrong.

The only good King of the Romans was Justinian.

The 4th Crusade literally did everything wrong.

[Genivaria]

So for the non PDX players here there's a mod for EU4 called 'Third Oddysey', the premise of which is that the Byzantine Emperor foresaw the doom that was coming from the Ottomans and so the Byzantines packed as much as they could onto ships and sailed west out of the Mediterranean in search of a new home.
They settle in the Americas and call their new nation Elysium.

Any thoughts on this bit of Alternative History?

[Hanafuridake]

[Uxupox]

The 4th Crusade did nothing wrong.

The only good King of the Romans was Justinian.

By "King", you mean "Vassileos"?

Yes. King means Basileus in Greek. That was the correct term for the Eastern Roman Emperor.

[Nea Byzantia]

By "King", you mean "Vassileos"?

Yes. King means Basileus in Greek. That was the correct term for the Eastern Roman Emperor.

Very true. Autokrator was sometimes used as well

[Proctopeo]

WRT Tucker Carlson, I'm of the mind that, unless you're an active politician, things said a decade or more ago should only be made relevant if the person themselves brings it up. Otherwise, there's no valid purpose to make it relevant. Partisan hackery or faux moral outrage don't count as "valid purposes".

And I'm not even a fan of Carlson.

[Fahran]

Carlson is handling it right and, one would think, everyone on the "Right" in the United States would realize it by now: don't give a fucking inch when the storm starts.

I do get the impression increasingly that honor, virtue, and good taste are not things that anyone genuinely cares about. I'd call most of Carlson's remarks crude, especially the ones that were demeaning to women. With regard to his remarks about the Iraqis and Afghans, they're unfortunate, but I think a lot of people at that time had similar attitudes towards those people. The notion that they were barbarians who wanted theocracy was dog whistled throughout the left-wing media outlets as propaganda against trying to establish republics in the region. Well, duh, y'all were talking to the militias sponsored by Iran. Of course they wanted a theocracy. Still, someone has to have standards at some point.

Studies since the 70s have shown female happiness have collapsed and others have repeatedly shown women would prefer to be home with their children. Admittedly it's not a direct link, but I think the underlying connection is clear to everyone, especially since No Fault directly led to the large upswing in divorces concurrent to this.

I'm aware of women's happiness plummeting even as we've broken glass ceilings. I think part of the problem is that some women going into the workforce, driving down wages by inflating the labor supply, and living more materially prosperous lives necessitated that even women who would have preferred to stay at home with their children needing to work just to provide enough with their husbands to make ends meet. That's especially true of working class women. Additionally, women have to deal with the second shift and the stresses of modern life. Not to mention the harm done to traditional marriage and families by the prison-industrial complex and more socially liberal attitudes.

I don't really like getting deep into the specifics because discussions typically end up like a MGTOW chatroom, but if we're going to cite infidelity statistics it's important to note that among ever-married adults ages 18 to 29, women are more likely than men to be guilty of infidelity (11% vs. 10%). As for marriage, the reason divorce rates have collapsed is because marriage rates have too; you can't have divorce if there isn't marriages in the first place.

Young women are slightly more likely to cheat than young men, but middle-aged men are substantially more likely to cheat than middle-aged women. Overall, men are substantially more likely to cheat at some point in a marriage. With regard to marriage, I'm not certain it's so cut and dry. With regard to marriage, it seems to be tied to college degrees and some measure of wealth - but it also increases wealth and the happiness of married couples, especially married men. The fact that Hungary could increase the marriage rate by offering tax credits and family-oriented welfare suggests that social expectations and the perceived expense of "good" marriages might be impediments to marriages for young and less well-educated people.

The wiki page I'm reading atm (which has numerous sources on this, btw) makes no mention of Han internees.

I imagine some religious adherents of Falun Gong are Han. China persecutes both ethnic and religious minorities in order to create a nation that is more ethnically and religiously homogeneous and this is a continuation of policies that have been in place for years. A substantial majority of the population is Han and adheres to an eclectic mix of traditions that are coordinated and supervised by the government or that won't cause trouble if left to locals. On the whole East Asia is a lot more nationalistic than most of Europe at the moment.

[Conserative Morality]

New Rome (Constantinople) is the best...Remember 627 AD...

The 4th Crusade did nothing wrong.

The only good King of the Romans was Justinian.

>> King
>> Romans
>> The year is >245 AUC

Pick two.

[Conserative Morality]

WRT Tucker Carlson, I'm of the mind that, unless you're an active politician, things said a decade or more ago should only be made relevant if the person themselves brings it up. Otherwise, there's no valid purpose to make it relevant. Partisan hackery or faux moral outrage don't count as "valid purposes".

And I'm not even a fan of Carlson.

"Faux moral outrage"

Imagine being this salty about actions having consequences!

[Benuty]

WRT Tucker Carlson, I'm of the mind that, unless you're an active politician, things said a decade or more ago should only be made relevant if the person themselves brings it up. Otherwise, there's no valid purpose to make it relevant. Partisan hackery or faux moral outrage don't count as "valid purposes".

And I'm not even a fan of Carlson.

"Faux moral outrage"

Imagine being this salty about actions having consequences!

Actions don't have consequences unless they result in the destruction of society on a massive level.

[Conserative Morality]

"Faux moral outrage"

Imagine being this salty about actions having consequences!

Actions don't have consequences unless they result in the destruction of society on a massive level.

I'm down.

[Benuty]

Actions don't have consequences unless they result in the destruction of society on a massive level.

I'm down.

Of course, you are given you have a title to gain from the ashes of the world...not that I could blame you for it.

[Conserative Morality]

Of course, you are given you have a title to gain from the ashes of the world...not that I could blame you for it.

Nah, even if I got nothing out of it. Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus

[Hanafuridake]

I'm down.

Of course, you are given you have a title to gain from the ashes of the world...not that I could blame you for it.

I always knew Conserative Morality had kingly aspirations.

[Conserative Morality]

Of course, you are given you have a title to gain from the ashes of the world...not that I could blame you for it.

I always knew Conserative Morality had kingly aspirations.

Please, just call me First Citizen.

[Fahran]

Please, just call me First Citizen.

Excuse me, CM. Cassius wanted to have a word real quick.

[Nietzschean Jihad]

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Buddho-communism, reaching nirvana one famine at a time.

[Hanafuridake]

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Buddho-communism, reaching nirvana one famine at a time.

Implying that one can reconcile the Virgin Marx with the Chad Buddha.

[Uxupox]

The 4th Crusade did nothing wrong.

The only good King of the Romans was Justinian.

>> King
>> Romans
>> The year is >245 AUC

Pick two.

Ask some kids in the Greek island under Ottomani occupation during the 18 to the 19the century and they would tell you that they are romans interestingly enough.