Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Alcohol is immoral and should be banned.

If only this would work everywhere.

[Nea Byzantia]

Calm down, Augustus.

Genghis Khan lost his father and his son to alcoholism. Strong Drink Is A Mocker

Yeah, and Christ turned Water into Wine...so Prohibition ain't Christian, for all you Evangelical Puritans out there.

[Fahran]

While I understand that alcohol has long served as "social glue", I choose to abstain from it because indulgence in it leads to a loss of inhibitions, and to lose one's inhibitions is to become less aware of righteous conduct.

TL;DR Inhibitions are good and I don't understand why anyone would desire to lose them.

I'm generally quite moderate in my intake at secular social events. Moderation and inhibitions represent virtues in mind. I do understand the value and potent nature of alcohol though. And, of course, Jews are encouraged to drink on Purim until we cannot distinguish the difference between "Bless be Mordechai" and "Cursed be Haman" as an inversion of our everyday behavior.

[Benuty]

The only truly acceptable use of alcohol is for activities involving the sacred.

Its partly why there was an explosion of "Jews" during prohibition since their use of alcohol was more intimate than that of the communal Eucharist at the local church.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

This is why I'm a teetotaler, tbh.

Teetotal gang unite!!! :^)

Seriously though, alcohol consumption impairs one's ability to make moral judgements, which is why I abstain. That, and PA has very strong underage drinking prohibitions, which I'm sure you're well aware of since you're a fellow resident of the Commonwealth.

[Dresderstan]

Teetotal gang unite!!! :^)

Seriously though, alcohol consumption impairs one's ability to make moral judgements, which is why I abstain. That, and PA has very strong underage drinking prohibitions, which I'm sure you're well aware of since you're a fellow resident of the Commonwealth.

Wait, Bien is also from PA?

[Benuty]

Genghis Khan lost his father and his son to alcoholism. Strong Drink Is A Mocker

Yeah, and Christ turned Water into Wine...so Prohibition ain't Christian, for all you Evangelical Puritans out there.

I have to agree, but even when alcohol was consumed it was limited in its use. Back when people use to drink alcohol as they do with soda today it was partly because nobody connected the fact that if you simply boil water alone it is safe to drink. Of course people back then knew too much alcohol was unsafe, and heavily diluted it save for special events.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Wait, Bien is also from PA?

Are we talking about Pennsylvania or Panama?

[Fahran]

The only truly acceptable use of alcohol is for activities involving the sacred.

The spiritual resonates in and casts shadows over everyday life.

Its partly why there was an explosion of "Jews" during prohibition since their use of alcohol was more intimate than that of the communal Eucharist at the local church.

I'm indignant.

[Old Tyrannia]

Alcohol is immoral and should be banned.

Even Hotter Take: The Mandate of Heaven is flawed in that it permits the overthrow of monarchs that are perceived as having "lost" it, thus providing an incentive and justification for insurrection; therefore, the European and Japanese concepts of the monarch's irrevocable divine right to rule are superior. Hana, back me up on this.

The Mandate of Heaven idea is not entirely wrong, but I think a parliamentary impeachment would be preferable to armed insurrection. Sort of like what happened in England with the Glorious Revolution.

Puritans, puritans everywhere.

That's it, I'm raising the banner over here for God, King and Whisky.

[Nea Byzantia]

Yeah, and Christ turned Water into Wine...so Prohibition ain't Christian, for all you Evangelical Puritans out there.

I have to agree, but even when alcohol was consumed it was limited in its use. Back when people use to drink alcohol as they do with soda today it was partly because nobody connected the fact that if you simply boil water alone it is safe to drink. Of course people back then knew too much alcohol was unsafe, and heavily diluted it save for special events.

I'm not advocating for Alcoholism...I'm just saying that Alcohol isn't evil.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Seriously though, alcohol consumption impairs one's ability to make moral judgements, which is why I abstain. That, and PA has very strong underage drinking prohibitions, which I'm sure you're well aware of since you're a fellow resident of the Commonwealth.

Wait, Bien is also from PA?

It says so right in their sig.

> [*]Age: 24 [*]Pennsylvania Dutch [*]ELCA Lutheran [*]Male [*]Bisexual - leaning towards gay [*]Independent [*]Sinophile-Japanophile [*]Monarchist [*]Has Asperger's

Wait, Bien is also from PA?

Are we talking about Pennsylvania or Panama?

Pennsylvania, otherwise known as Hell on Earth.

[Benuty]

The only truly acceptable use of alcohol is for activities involving the sacred.

The spiritual resonates in and casts shadows over everyday life.

Its partly why there was an explosion of "Jews" during prohibition since their use of alcohol was more intimate than that of the communal Eucharist at the local church.

I'm indignant.

Charleston had an interesting explosion in its Jewish population from areas which were notably catholic. The local offices reported an increase in rather "Irish sounding" individuals dressed up as rabbis coming to the federal properties where alcohol was held and requesting weekly rations for personal "religious" usages.

[Nea Byzantia]

Alcohol is immoral and should be banned.

The Mandate of Heaven idea is not entirely wrong, but I think a parliamentary impeachment would be preferable to armed insurrection. Sort of like what happened in England with the Glorious Revolution.

Puritans, puritans everywhere.

That's it, I'm raising the banner over here for God, King and Whisky.

Here,Here! Down with Cromwell!

[Free Arabian Nation]

This is why Old Tyrannia has the Mandate of Heaven and why the false dynasty of Fahran will be overthrown in the next thread.

Long live Old Tyrannia, the God-Ordained Emperor and Augustus of RWDT!

No me

[Benuty]

Long live Old Tyrannia, the God-Ordained Emperor and Augustus of RWDT!

No me

How about we simply elect the ruler?

[Free Arabian Nation]

No me

How about we simply elect the ruler?

No, last time humanity had a republic it created America.

[Dresderstan]

No me

How about we simply elect the ruler?

How about no, war and revolt is much more fun.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

No me

How about we simply elect the ruler?

What about a legislature based around sortition (lower house) and corporatism (upper house) with the executive(s) being the heads of the civil service?

[Benuty]

Despite the laughing stock that the descendants of the Puritans became they did get a few things right. They sparked a cultural movement with poetry and reminded people that death was a part of life not to be ignored. They also continued the long tradition of emphasizing the fact that sex within marriage wasn't something evil. That would come later during the 1800s thanks to the many schismatic protestant movements more than the Puritans.

[Benuty]

How about we simply elect the ruler?

How about no, war and revolt is much more fun.

Its only as fun as you can effectively wage said war if we are being honest here.

[Conserative Morality]

No me

How about we simply elect the ruler?

The Legions have already acclaimed me Emperor. =^)

GIVE US AN EMPEROR OF HUMBLE BEGINNINGS

[Old Tyrannia]

Despite the laughing stock that the descendants of the Puritans became they did get a few things right. They sparked a cultural movement with poetry and reminded people that death was a part of life not to be ignored. They also continued the long tradition of emphasizing the fact that sex within marriage wasn't something evil. That would come later during the 1800s thanks to the many schismatic protestant movements more than the Puritans.

It's quite odd to be seeing someone with Laud as his avatar sticking up for the Puritans.

[Free Arabian Nation]

How about we simply elect the ruler?

The Legions have already acclaimed me Emperor. =^)

GIVE US AN EMPEROR OF HUMBLE BEGINNINGS

Rome is dumb, Parthia is better

[Hanafuridake]

Hot Take: The Chinese Mandate of Heaven is one of the best examples of the Platonic conception of the "noble lie" in practice.

Even Hotter Take: The Mandate of Heaven is flawed in that it permits the overthrow of monarchs that are perceived as having "lost" it, thus providing an incentive and justification for insurrection; therefore, the European and Japanese concepts of the monarch's irrevocable divine right to rule are superior. Hana, back me up on this.

This is true, it turns the throne into something to be contested with limited human intelligence rather than a divinely appointed role which enforces justice and benevolence across the land. In some ways it's the precursor to republicanism, both of them rely on the same philosophical basis. Britain and Japan have both enjoyed longer periods of cultural continuity than the rest of the world as a result of their monarchs stemming from the original dynasty that formed them.