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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:36 am

Baltenstein wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Don't rub people's faces in it too much mate, for fuck's sake. :?


It's only natural if one's way to cope with such a life-changing incidence is to share it to others. The guy was - and probably still is - in an emotional rollercoaster while he wrote this.

I mean sure, but posting it on Facebook for the whole world to see when discussing it with some others would have sufficed seems a bit distasteful.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:52 am

The East India Trade Federation wrote:Wow Boeing, you killed my Aviation and Defense stock


People are dead and all you care about is your portfolio? That's just sickening.
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Postby Minoa » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:49 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:I've just discovered that one of our colleagues from the Norwegian Red Cross was on the plane.

https://twitter.com/rodekorsnorge/statu ... 7012136961

Passengers from 35 countries plus one UN diplomat were on board.

For a second Boeing 737 Max 8 to crash under similar circumstances — in just five months — the tragedy is totally unacceptable, especially when one of them was a colleague working with a NationStates moderator.

While there are usually calls for us not to jump to conclusions, this tragedy is an exception with good reason: in the aftermath of Lion Air Flight 610, many safety experts accused Boeing of withholding information about potential hazards associated with a new flight-control feature.

Even though my next flight will be with an Airbus, I expected better from an aircraft manufacturer behind the well-respected 747 Jumbo Jet. Boeing has to come clean about the safety issues.
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Postby Loben » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:50 pm

Minoa wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:I've just discovered that one of our colleagues from the Norwegian Red Cross was on the plane.

https://twitter.com/rodekorsnorge/statu ... 7012136961

Passengers from 35 countries plus one UN diplomat were on board.

For a second Boeing 737 Max 8 to crash under similar circumstances — in just five months — the tragedy is totally unacceptable, especially when one of them was a colleague working with a NationStates moderator.

While there are usually calls for us not to jump to conclusions, this tragedy is an exception with good reason: in the aftermath of Lion Air Flight 610, many safety experts accused Boeing of withholding information about potential hazards associated with a new flight-control feature.

Even though my next flight will be with an Airbus, I expected better from an aircraft manufacturer behind the well-respected 747 Jumbo Jet. Boeing has to come clean about the safety issues.


could it have been poor maintenance?

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:00 pm

Loben wrote:
Minoa wrote:Passengers from 35 countries plus one UN diplomat were on board.

For a second Boeing 737 Max 8 to crash under similar circumstances — in just five months — the tragedy is totally unacceptable, especially when one of them was a colleague working with a NationStates moderator.

While there are usually calls for us not to jump to conclusions, this tragedy is an exception with good reason: in the aftermath of Lion Air Flight 610, many safety experts accused Boeing of withholding information about potential hazards associated with a new flight-control feature.

Even though my next flight will be with an Airbus, I expected better from an aircraft manufacturer behind the well-respected 747 Jumbo Jet. Boeing has to come clean about the safety issues.


could it have been poor maintenance?

A brand new jet? Unlikely. And Boeing have already admitted there have been issues with the anti-stall system. Looking at the altitude and speed profile of the flight indicates that the pilots seemed to be wrestling with automatic controls that were constantly countermanding their input:

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Postby Minoa » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:05 pm

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv8QY2rBtUo (Al Jazeera English)

If I correctly interpret what Alex Macheras said, the maintenance regime of Ethiopian Airlines is strong (6:35 timestamp).
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Postby Andsed » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:33 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:I've just discovered that one of our colleagues from the Norwegian Red Cross was on the plane.

https://twitter.com/rodekorsnorge/statu ... 7012136961

That is fucking awful man. My condolences.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:40 pm

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The Archregimancy wrote:I've just discovered that one of our colleagues from the Norwegian Red Cross was on the plane.

https://twitter.com/rodekorsnorge/statu ... 7012136961

That is fucking awful man. My condolences.

Sorry Arch I didn't see this earlier. Sending hugs.
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Postby US-SSR » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:27 pm

Reportedly US and EU regulators are allowing these planes to keep flying. Wonder how well "we're very concerned and monitoring the sitution, safety is our number one concern" will fly when one of these noses in to some suburban neighborhood near the local airport?
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:26 pm

planes entering commercial passenger service (in massive numbers) that appear to be 'not out of beta'.

thankfully nations are grounding this plane, by why did it take two such incidents (and a bunch of people dead) for them to even start doing so,
and why hasn't this model been grounded universally, or boeing issued a recall the way car makers are required to?
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Postby Amuaplye » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:30 pm

Andsed wrote:Uhh no. While some may call for better air safety people are not going to just stop using air travel as it is one of the fastest means of transportation.

The Concorde died because nobody wanted to fly on it after Air France 4590 and because nobody really wanted to fly after 9/11.
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Postby Argentinstan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:32 pm

This is is yet another blow to Boeing and its reputation for safe aircraft.

I wish all the victims' well in their mourning.
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Postby Deutsche Herrschaft » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:27 am

Argentinstan wrote:This is is yet another blow to Boeing and its reputation for safe aircraft.

I wish all the victims' well in their mourning.

Who’s excited for a Boeing space program?

Jokes aside, I agree. Fortunately, as far as I am aware, they are taking these aircraft out of commission for good. This will nevertheless tarnish their reputation as you pointed out.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:29 am

Deutsche Herrschaft wrote:Fortunately, as far as I am aware, they are taking these aircraft out of commission for good.

Source?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:15 am

Amuaplye wrote:
Andsed wrote:Uhh no. While some may call for better air safety people are not going to just stop using air travel as it is one of the fastest means of transportation.

The Concorde died because nobody wanted to fly on it after Air France 4590 and because nobody really wanted to fly after 9/11.


Concorde was also incredibly niche and incredibly expensive to keep flying.
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Postby Sicaris » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:17 am

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The East India Trade Federation wrote:Wow Boeing, you killed my Aviation and Defense stock


People are dead and all you care about is your portfolio? That's just sickening.


:rofl:
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:17 am

US-SSR wrote:Reportedly US and EU regulators are allowing these planes to keep flying. Wonder how well "we're very concerned and monitoring the sitution, safety is our number one concern" will fly when one of these noses in to some suburban neighborhood near the local airport?


Boeing: UK joins countries blocking aircraft

The UK's Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has banned the Boeing 737 MAX from operating in or over UK airspace "as a precautionary measure".
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The East India Trade Federation wrote:Wow Boeing, you killed my Aviation and Defense stock


Invest in oil companies smh

No seriously big oil bring in the B I G B U C K S
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:19 am

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People are dead and all you care about is your portfolio? That's just sickening.


:rofl:


Sorry, were you trying to make a point here?
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Sorry, were you trying to make a point here?


The fact the person was obviously making a joke and you got offended by it, and tried to play the feelings/“that’s just sick!” card.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:23 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Sorry, were you trying to make a point here?


The fact the person was obviously making a joke and you got offended by it, and tried to play the feelings/“that’s just sick!” card.


Did it ever occur to you that there are some things you don't joke about? Or were you just that desperate for a gotcha?
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Postby Andsed » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:24 am

Sicaris wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Sorry, were you trying to make a point here?


The fact the person was obviously making a joke and you got offended by it, and tried to play the feelings/“that’s just sick!” card.

I´m going to back up Vass here. While I am all for dark humor this is just to early for it.
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Postby Sicaris » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:28 am

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The fact the person was obviously making a joke and you got offended by it, and tried to play the feelings/“that’s just sick!” card.


Did it ever occur to you that there are some things you don't joke about? Or were you just that desperate for a gotcha?


This is the internet, Vass. If you aren’t ready for literally anything and everything to be joked about, sometimes as a way to cope with things, you might not want to spend much time on it.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:32 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Did it ever occur to you that there are some things you don't joke about? Or were you just that desperate for a gotcha?


This is the internet, Vass. If you aren’t ready for literally anything and everything to be joked about, sometimes as a way to cope with things, you might not want to spend much time on it.


And if you aren't ready for people to call you out when you do something idiotic or disgusting, you might not want to spend time on it either. :roll:
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Postby Lanorth » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:35 pm

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Lanorth wrote:Slovak MP Anton Hrnko later confirmed via Facebook that his wife and two children were on the plane.


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