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Evil Dictators Happyland
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:31 pm

Cultural appropriation is only a problem of any sort in extreme circumstances, but what OP described isn't cultural appropriation, nor would it be a problem if it were. If you're going to attack people for adopting cultural values they don't understand as well as they think they do and you can't be persuaded not to, then have the common decency to go for the weebs first and not trivial stuff like "black musician doing his f**king job".

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Postby Herador » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:33 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Bombadil wrote:a. There's nothing wrong with using and reinterpreting anything even if it's important to certain people, it's just whiny SJWs..
b. OMFG! they remade Ghostbusters with FEMALES!.. attaaaaack...


Don't even get me started on adult males drawing sexualized versions of cartoon characters created for six year old girls...... it's not My Little Pr0Ny.

You know who else hates art?

Fascists.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:41 pm

Herador wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Don't even get me started on adult males drawing sexualized versions of cartoon characters created for six year old girls...... it's not My Little Pr0Ny.

You know who else hates art?

Fascists.

If I have to hear bitching about "The new Ghostbusters movie destroyed my childhood!" then people drawing cartoon animals with glistening spread labia are doing what for CURRENT children who watch said show?

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:43 pm

Herador wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Don't even get me started on adult males drawing sexualized versions of cartoon characters created for six year old girls...... it's not My Little Pr0Ny.

You know who else hates art?

Fascists.

You know who else hates art?

Nikita Khrushchev apparently
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:44 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Herador wrote:You know who else hates art?

Fascists.

If I have to hear bitching about "The new Ghostbusters movie destroyed my childhood!" then people drawing cartoon animals with glistening spread labia are doing what for CURRENT children who watch said show?

Both are spawns of Satan and need to be sent back to hell where they belong.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:44 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Herador wrote:You know who else hates art?

Fascists.

You know who else hates art?

Nikita Khrushchev apparently

I don't think he hates a whole lot anymore, considering that he's dead and stuff.

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:46 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:You know who else hates art?

Nikita Khrushchev apparently

I don't think he hates a whole lot anymore, considering that he's dead and stuff.

No, he's in revisionist hell along with Gorbachev and Mao, so he still hates stuff

But that's besides the point
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Postby Jello Biafra » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:54 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:No, this is not an example of it, because, even if you could actually argue that 'white' is a culture, the Concerto was something given away freely by that culture for other cultures to use. A similar example would be an Asian person making tacos.

I have to question how a culture would give something away freely for others to use. One can’t exactly give an entire culture a survey to fill out to see if they agree to it.

Sure, but you could feasibly look at the numbers of people from each culture who are engaging in such things and the numbers of people who publicly object to them. It's not very difficult to see a difference in the numbers of people who sell tacos vs. the rare Native American poacher who will sell eagle feathers to non-Native Americans.

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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:41 pm

You would never catch me ascribing to any ideology delineating cultural property in service of essentialist social theory BUT in the interest of fairness... most people who think 'cultural appropriation is bad' would make a distinction between the appropriation of 'oppressed' culture by an 'oppressor' group, and the appropriation of 'oppressor' culture by an 'oppressed' group. Ergo, white people using black culture = bad, black people using white culture = fine.

If you accept that culture can belong to people, it follows that you would go the above route. That's why the example in the OP wouldn't be considered negative.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:45 pm

I feel like you picked possibly the smallest cherry in the orchard to get your point across...
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Postby Vetalia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:22 pm

Obviously the solution is to reinstate strict segregation among racial and ethnic groups and enforce anti-miscegenation laws to ensure cultures are kept pure from outside influences.

Nevermind that cultural mixing and "appropriation" of things from various cultures is one of the greatest strengths of the USA.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:32 pm

Vetalia wrote:Nevermind that cultural mixing and "appropriation" of things from various cultures is one of the greatest strengths of the USA human civilization.

FTFY. :P
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Postby Vetalia » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:19 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:FTFY. :P


That is very true. :)
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