UK citizen Jarrah Begum dies in Syrian refugee camp

[Terruana]

... after home office replies to request for help to bring him back to the UK with "sorry, wrong department".

Jarrah was less than 3 weeks old when he died of pneumonia on Thursday afternoon.

I see this as a huge failing on the part of the UK government. This was an innocent baby who was knowingly left to die because doing anything to actually help him would have been too politically awkward for a government in the middle of trying to win over the right wing to support their version of Brexit.

If journalists are able to get access to the camp to interview his mother, I don't see any compelling reason why the home office wouldn't have been able to help him, if that was actually what they'd wanted to do.

What do you all think? Am I being unfair to the home office by blaming them for this tragic death?

[Yusseria]

Who the fuck cares about some terror bitch's baby?

[Terruana]

Who the fuck cares about some terror bitch's baby?

I think a majority of people would find the death of a three week old baby sad. If you don't, that says more about you than about the baby.

[Sarbonne]

Who the fuck cares about some terror bitch's baby?

I think a majority of people would find the death of a three week old baby sad. If you don't, that says more about you than about the baby.

The only way to find out is to poll it.

[Dooom35796821595]

... after home office replies to request for help to bring him back to the UK with "sorry, wrong department".

Jarrah was less than 3 weeks old when he died of pneumonia on Thursday afternoon.

I see this as a huge failing on the part of the UK government. This was an innocent baby who was knowingly left to die because doing anything to actually help him would have been too politically awkward for a government in the middle of trying to win over the right wing to support their version of Brexit.

If journalists are able to get access to the camp to interview his mother, I don't see any compelling reason why the home office wouldn't have been able to help him, if that was actually what they'd wanted to do.

What do you all think? Am I being unfair to the home office by blaming them for this tragic death?

Yeah, this was the of her children to die, and the fault lies entirely with the mother who went and joined ISIS.

[Valrifell]

Who the fuck cares about some terror bitch's baby?

Excessively cruel, the child did nothing wrong.

[Terruana]

I think a majority of people would find the death of a three week old baby sad. If you don't, that says more about you than about the baby.

The only way to find out is to poll it.

You think I should make a poll about whether the baby had it coming?

[Thermodolia]

A shame but it’s not the UK’s fault the mother was a fucking retard

[Terruana]

... after home office replies to request for help to bring him back to the UK with "sorry, wrong department".

Jarrah was less than 3 weeks old when he died of pneumonia on Thursday afternoon.

I see this as a huge failing on the part of the UK government. This was an innocent baby who was knowingly left to die because doing anything to actually help him would have been too politically awkward for a government in the middle of trying to win over the right wing to support their version of Brexit.

If journalists are able to get access to the camp to interview his mother, I don't see any compelling reason why the home office wouldn't have been able to help him, if that was actually what they'd wanted to do.

What do you all think? Am I being unfair to the home office by blaming them for this tragic death?

Yeah, this was the of her children to die, and the fault lies entirely with the mother who went and joined ISIS.

Really? There's no fault at all with the UK government for leaving a vulnerable citizen to die because it would have been politically awkward to intervene? Would it still be solely the mothers fault if the child were in Syria because she'd been visiting relatives rather than joining IS?

[Terruana]

A shame but it’s not the UK’s fault the mother was a fucking retard

Regardless of what the mother did, the child was innocent. His mother joining IS doesn't make it okay to just leave him to die.

[Yusseria]

Who the fuck cares about some terror bitch's baby?

Excessively cruel, the child did nothing wrong.

He most likely would have followed in his Jihadi mother's footsteps. Nothing of value was lost today.

[Dooom35796821595]

Yeah, this was the of her children to die, and the fault lies entirely with the mother who went and joined ISIS.

Really? There's no fault at all with the UK government for leaving a vulnerable citizen to die because it would have been politically awkward to intervene? Would it still be solely the mothers fault if the child were in Syria because she'd been visiting relatives rather than joining IS?

No. She lost two children, and waited to have the third before asking to go back to the UK. The fault is all hers. And if she was visiting relatives she would be a lawful citizen, not a terrorist and would go to an embassy.

[Thermodolia]

A shame but it’s not the UK’s fault the mother was a fucking retard

Regardless of what the mother did, the child was innocent. His mother joining IS doesn't make it okay to just leave him to die.

He can’t be sent back without his mother and the UK shouldn’t be forced to go get him. It’s a shame but that’s life it fucking sucks

[Shofercia]

Who the fuck cares about some terror bitch's baby?

I think a majority of people would find the death of a three week old baby sad. If you don't, that says more about you than about the baby.

I agree, just because his parents were terrorists, doesn't mean that the baby was a terrorist too. There's no such thing as a terrorist gene. This was tragic, and preventable.

A shame but it’s not the UK’s fault the mother was a fucking retard

Couldn't UK take the baby away from the mother?

[Gran Virginia]

A shame but it’s not the UK’s fault the mother was a fucking retard

Regardless of what the mother did, the child was innocent. His mother joining IS doesn't make it okay to just leave him to die.

Yes, but based on the article, you're significantly making the idea of bringing the baby back to the UK sound far simpler than it would have been.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

A shame but it’s not the UK’s fault the mother was a fucking retard

Kinda. I mean the mother made the decision to join ISIS. It’s sad the kid died, he was innocent but what could the UK govt do? The mother violated the law. She joined a terrorist organization and was banned from entering the UK. I guess bring the infant to her family, but I doubt they (UK govt) had a vested interest in spending the money to.

[Thermodolia]

I think a majority of people would find the death of a three week old baby sad. If you don't, that says more about you than about the baby.

I agree, just because his parents were terrorists, doesn't mean that the baby was a terrorist too. There's no such thing as a terrorist gene. This was tragic, and preventable.

A shame but it’s not the UK’s fault the mother was a fucking retard

Couldn't UK take the baby away from the mother?

The mother didn’t want to let the baby leave without her and the UK didn’t want to go and get the baby.

[Cerinda]

Very sad but it's the fault of his mother, no one else.

[Andsed]

Excessively cruel, the child did nothing wrong.

He most likely would have followed in his Jihadi mother's footsteps. Nothing of value was lost today.

Jesus’s this is not only racist but also fucking cruel. But yeah this is tragic that the kid died so young but honestly it does not seem the UK could do that much.

[Terruana]

Really? There's no fault at all with the UK government for leaving a vulnerable citizen to die because it would have been politically awkward to intervene? Would it still be solely the mothers fault if the child were in Syria because she'd been visiting relatives rather than joining IS?

No. She lost two children, and waited to have the third before asking to go back to the UK. The fault is all hers. And if she was visiting relatives she would be a lawful citizen, not a terrorist and would go to an embassy.

The point I'm trying to make is that regardless of what the mother has done, the child was still an innocent UK citizen stranded in a dangerous situation with no way of getting himself home. In such a case, I would expect the UK government to at least try to help, rather than fobbing him off by claiming his family had contacted the wrong department.

[US-SSR]

Not a good look for the UK government. For ISIS, another recruitment poster: "The West hates Muslim babies, join us."

[Terruana]

I agree, just because his parents were terrorists, doesn't mean that the baby was a terrorist too. There's no such thing as a terrorist gene. This was tragic, and preventable.




Couldn't UK take the baby away from the mother?

The mother didn’t want to let the baby leave without her and the UK didn’t want to go and get the baby.

The mother was never given the option of having her child brought back to the Uk without her because the government refused to act when her family went to them for help.

[Loben]

Not a good look for the UK government. For ISIS, another recruitment poster: "The West hates Muslim babies, join us."

more bodies to bury for them then.

[Dooom35796821595]

No. She lost two children, and waited to have the third before asking to go back to the UK. The fault is all hers. And if she was visiting relatives she would be a lawful citizen, not a terrorist and would go to an embassy.

The point I'm trying to make is that regardless of what the mother has done, the child was still an innocent UK citizen stranded in a dangerous situation with no way of getting himself home. In such a case, I would expect the UK government to at least try to help, rather than fobbing him off by claiming his family had contacted the wrong department.

And I’ve said the responsibility lies entirely on the mother. The UK isn’t obligated to bail out every citizen who gets in trouble, certainly not a terrorist who has gotten three of her children killed.

[Terruana]

Regardless of what the mother did, the child was innocent. His mother joining IS doesn't make it okay to just leave him to die.

Yes, but based on the article, you're significantly making the idea of bringing the baby back to the UK sound far simpler than it would have been.

If journalists can get out there to interview the mother and come back, I don't see why it would be so difficult for a government representative to go out there and bring the child back. IIRC the family's lawyer had been planning to do exactly that, assuming he could get the paperwork from the UK government to allow him to do so.