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Good. People who affect real victims of hate crimes just because they want their 15 minutes of fame should not get any sympathy. Imagine if you suffered a real hate crime but people would not believe you jut because of this Smollett dude. You'd feel like shit.

The South Falls wrote:WHY the FUCK does EVERYONE love ALTERNATING capitals SO much?

Ben Shapiro alumni.

Inkopolitia wrote:Good. People who affect real victims of hate crimes just because they want their 15 minutes of fame should not get any sympathy. Imagine if you suffered a real hate crime but people would not believe you jut because of this Smollett dude. You'd feel like shit.

Or we could try not throwing out "Equal justice under law" just because we want to be vindictive and make examples of people.

Liriena wrote:

The South Falls wrote:WHY the FUCK does EVERYONE love ALTERNATING capitals SO much?

Ben Shapiro alumni.

BEN SHAPIRO fan DESTROYS General forum LIBERALS with ALTERNATING capitalised WORDS - (PT 9/78)

Smollett fully deserves to face prison time for his atrocious behavior. He has probably hurt LGBTQ+ rights massively, because now the Right has material to use for whenever a hate crime happens. But the way he has been charged seems motivated by something other than justice. In a better world, we wouldn't have to suspect there's an ulterior motive, but unfortunately, we don't live in a better world.

Vassenor wrote:

Inkopolitia wrote:Good. People who affect real victims of hate crimes just because they want their 15 minutes of fame should not get any sympathy. Imagine if you suffered a real hate crime but people would not believe you jut because of this Smollett dude. You'd feel like shit.

Or we could try not throwing out "Equal justice under law" just because we want to be vindictive and make examples of people.

Making examples of people who break the law doesn't throw out equal justice under the law. A long time ago SCOTUS said the death penalty is little more than societal retribution for people whom we have extreme disdain for but its always been allowed to stand.

Hanafuridake wrote:Smollett fully deserves to face prison time for his atrocious behavior. He has probably hurt LGBTQ+ rights massively, because now the Right has material to use for whenever a hate crime happens. But the way he has been charged seems motivated by something other than justice. In a better world, we wouldn't have to suspect there's an ulterior motive, but unfortunately, we don't live in a better world.

Like I said, it feels like CPD is trying to throw the book at him after the feds got a little bit too interested in what they were doing and they cast doubt on some of the police statements.

Vassenor wrote:

Inkopolitia wrote:Good. People who affect real victims of hate crimes just because they want their 15 minutes of fame should not get any sympathy. Imagine if you suffered a real hate crime but people would not believe you jut because of this Smollett dude. You'd feel like shit.

Or we could try not throwing out "Equal justice under law" just because we want to be vindictive and make examples of people.

As I said, people that affect situations that are happening in the world do not deserve sympathy. Smollett's stupidity and ignorance had a consequence, which comes in the form of 16 felony counts.

Unlike OJ Simpson its unlikely if Smollet does actually get full prison time he will have anything to fall back on. This isn't tax evasion like Wesley Snipes after all so good luck with the rest of your life Jussie.

Benuty wrote:Unlike OJ Simpson its unlikely if Smollet does actually get full prison time he will have anything to fall back on. This isn't tax evasion like Wesley Snipes after all so good luck with the rest of your life Jussie.

that is unless the people still supporting him throw money at the fake hate crime actor to bail him out or get the judge to somehow move the trial outside of Chicago

Gig em Aggies wrote:

Benuty wrote:Unlike OJ Simpson its unlikely if Smollet does actually get full prison time he will have anything to fall back on. This isn't tax evasion like Wesley Snipes after all so good luck with the rest of your life Jussie.

that is unless the people still supporting him throw money at the fake hate crime actor to bail him out or get the judge to somehow move the trial outside of Chicago

Maybe, but the thing is the legal bills alone will kill him. OJ Simpson at least has his NFL pension to provide a moderately comfortable life given his advanced age. I have no doubts he will have his supporters, but the legal bills alone might dog him well into his fifties.

Reasonable people: An attention seeking asshole faked a hate crime, that's shitty

The alt right: This proves all hate crimes are fake, there is no more racism black President, there are like 100 neonazis and KKK left in America no other racism tho

Page wrote:Reasonable people: An attention seeking asshole faked a hate crime, that's shitty

The alt right: This proves all hate crimes are fake, there is no more racism black President, there are like 100 neonazis and KKK left in America no other racism tho

Interestingly, you're the only one I've seen saying any of that shit.

Scomagia wrote:

Page wrote:Reasonable people: An attention seeking asshole faked a hate crime, that's shitty

The alt right: This proves all hate crimes are fake, there is no more racism black President, there are like 100 neonazis and KKK left in America no other racism tho

Interestingly, you're the only one I've seen saying any of that shit.

Yeah, surprisingly the thread has for the near entirety of its short existence been remarkably civil.

Inkopolitia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Or we could try not throwing out "Equal justice under law" just because we want to be vindictive and make examples of people.

As I said, people that affect situations that are happening in the world do not deserve sympathy. Smollett's stupidity and ignorance had a consequence, which comes in the form of 16 felony counts.

Which, as as been pointed out, is excessive for what actually happened.

Vassenor wrote:

Inkopolitia wrote:As I said, people that affect situations that are happening in the world do not deserve sympathy. Smollett's stupidity and ignorance had a consequence, which comes in the form of 16 felony counts.

Which, as as been pointed out, is excessive for what actually happened.

I have yet to see someone demonstrate which charges are incorrect.
You would have to review each charge, and then show how he should be found guilty of that charge.

And filing every charge you can legitimately argue is what prosecutors should do.
This is common practice. This is their job.

Vassenor wrote:

Inkopolitia wrote:As I said, people that affect situations that are happening in the world do not deserve sympathy. Smollett's stupidity and ignorance had a consequence, which comes in the form of 16 felony counts.

Which, as as been pointed out, is excessive for what actually happened.

As has been pointed out by everybody but yourself, the charges are entirely in line with normal police procedure in this kind of case, as well as the peculiarities of how misinformation charges are generally handled in the US.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Which, as as been pointed out, is excessive for what actually happened.

As has been pointed out by everybody but yourself, the charges are entirely in line with normal police procedure in this kind of case, as well as the peculiarities of how misinformation charges are generally handled in the US.

Police don't charge criminals, prosecutors do.

Vassenor wrote:

Deimosan wrote:Good, he deserves it for lying and all these outlets taking and running with the narrative that it was true without waiting for more information..

So when was he proven guilty?

Why bother with a trial? Everyone knows he's guilty! He wouldn't have been charged if he weren't!/sarcasm

Ifreann wrote:

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:As has been pointed out by everybody but yourself, the charges are entirely in line with normal police procedure in this kind of case, as well as the peculiarities of how misinformation charges are generally handled in the US.

Police don't charge criminals, prosecutors do.

You're letting facts get in the way again.

Katganistan wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
So when was he proven guilty?

Why bother with a trial? Everyone knows he's guilty! He wouldn't have been charged if he weren't!/sarcasm

"Innocent until proven guilty" is only for rich white males accused of sex crimes.

Katganistan wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
So when was he proven guilty?

Why bother with a trial? Everyone knows he's guilty! He wouldn't have been charged if he weren't!/sarcasm

You jest but that's actually true here.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Which, as as been pointed out, is excessive for what actually happened.

As has been pointed out by everybody but yourself, the charges are entirely in line with normal police procedure in this kind of case, as well as the peculiarities of how misinformation charges are generally handled in the US.

Indeed. If some poor bastards had been charged with the fake crime you can bet that they'd have been looking down a similarly thick stack of charges.

Katganistan wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
So when was he proven guilty?

Why bother with a trial? Everyone knows he's guilty! He wouldn't have been charged if he weren't!/sarcasm

What an inane post. Do you have anything of value to post or are you just shitposting because you can?

anyone found a page detailing the exact charges he's facing I cant find shit