All Charges Against Jussie Smollett Dropped

[Scomagia]

They're arguing for the maximum allowed penalties. That's still equal justice.

Especially given that sentencing, aside from establishing the guidelines, isn't strictly 'the law,' it's judicial discression when combined with all the factors the judge is considering.

And there are numerous aggravating factors for the judge to consider.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Especially given that sentencing, aside from establishing the guidelines, isn't strictly 'the law,' it's judicial discression when combined with all the factors the judge is considering.

And there are numerous aggravating factors for the judge to consider.

The potential harm caused by the bullshit being one.

[Vetalia]

The 'fart in church' comment is so uniquely American lol, I only encountered it in Southern Alabama.

It really is, lol. It must be something from the Eastern Seaboard colonial days because we use it here in Ohio too!

But yes, I agree with you, celebrities are just the people that should be made examples of due to the press coverage, yet they are invariably the people who escape with the lightest sentences.

I think my approach is more nuanced in the sense that they shouldn't be "made examples of" in the sense of getting more punishment for the crimes committed, as that would be unjust, but rather they should get the same sentence as the average person would for doing the same thing. But nonetheless I agree in principle.

[Scomagia]

The 'fart in church' comment is so uniquely American lol, I only encountered it in Southern Alabama.

It really is, lol. It must be something from the Eastern Seaboard colonial days because we use it here in Ohio too!

But yes, I agree with you, celebrities are just the people that should be made examples of due to the press coverage, yet they are invariably the people who escape with the lightest sentences.

I think my approach is more nuanced in the sense that they shouldn't be "made examples of" in the sense of getting more punishment for the crimes committed, as that would be unjust, but rather they should get the same sentence as the average person would for doing the same thing. But nonetheless I agree in principle.

I don't see how it would be unjust to pursue the strictest allowable punishments. The specifics of his case are far different from other such cases.

[The River Brazos]

I heard on CBS Evening news that Smollett could face 64 years if he were to be convicted on all 16 counts and given 4 years max for each charge not to mention the 1-4 extra years on top of that for state charges which in total could net him anywhere 65-68 years in the slammer.

[Vetalia]

I don't see how it would be unjust to pursue the strictest allowable punishments. The specifics of his case are far different from other such cases.

Then we agree, I was mistaken in my interpretation of your comment!

[Thermodolia]

I expect he'll be able to plea down to some misdemeanor bullshit, pay restitution, and maybe serve jail time, though I really doubt it.

Unless the Feds come after him

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Given that we live in a world where massive tax fraud and conspiracy against the United States nets you a four year sentence, mail fraud probably won't destroy him.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1341

Mail fraud can land you 20 years in prison plus $250,000 in fines.
Mail fraud is serious shit.

Pretty much. Using the USPS to incite terror, a federal agency, can indeed land you in deep shit.

[Thermodolia]

So long buddy.

Given that we live in a world where massive tax fraud and conspiracy against the United States nets you a four year sentence, mail fraud probably won't destroy him.

The USPS doesn’t fuck around Vass. They will make sure he gets almost 30 years in the pokey

[Andsed]

Nice he deserves some serious punishment for not only wasting police time but also making it harder for actual victims to come foward. Also how is that mail fraud investigation coming along?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I mean that's what happens when you fuck with the mail system to send a fake bioterror threat. You dont fuck with the postal service.

[Seythennia]

Using the USPS to send fake ricin is like walking into an ATF building with one of those guns that shoots out a little BANG! flag. Except much worse, probably. The lengths some will go to for attention...

[Thermodolia]

Using the USPS to send fake ricin is like walking into an ATF building with one of those guns that shoots out a little BANG! flag. Except much worse, probably. The lengths some will go to for attention...

Actually walking into the AFT headquarters with a fake gun would more than likely just end up in fines and no jail time

[Seythennia]

Using the USPS to send fake ricin is like walking into an ATF building with one of those guns that shoots out a little BANG! flag. Except much worse, probably. The lengths some will go to for attention...

Actually walking into the AFT headquarters with a fake gun would more than likely just end up in fines and no jail time

I think of a good analogy and it falls flat!

But really, Jussie should've known that as soon as he blamed something on some MAGA cap-wearers, then they'd all start asking questions and seeing the holes in his no doubt infallible plan.

[Hatterleigh]

His career prospects are looking quite Smoll.

You mean small?

[Aclion]

I hope he doesn't beat himself up over this.

Using the USPS to send fake ricin is like walking into an ATF building with one of those guns that shoots out a little BANG! flag. Except much worse, probably. The lengths some will go to for attention...

Actually walking into the AFT headquarters with a fake gun would more than likely just end up in fines and no jail time

Pretty sure it would end in a grave.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

His career prospects are looking quite Smoll.

You mean small?

r/wooosh

[Conserative Morality]

Good. Making things harder for real victims is high-grade shitheadery.

[Aclion]

literally defending this

WTF no >:c
You know what makes things harder for real victims? Asshats like this who cry wolf. They're the reason these cases have to be treated with scrutiny, and the more it's allowed the more real victims will be dismissed.

[Gun Manufacturers]

The 'fart in church' comment is so uniquely American lol, I only encountered it in Southern Alabama.

It really is, lol. It must be something from the Eastern Seaboard colonial days because we use it here in Ohio too!

But yes, I agree with you, celebrities are just the people that should be made examples of due to the press coverage, yet they are invariably the people who escape with the lightest sentences.

I think my approach is more nuanced in the sense that they shouldn't be "made examples of" in the sense of getting more punishment for the crimes committed, as that would be unjust, but rather they should get the same sentence as the average person would for doing the same thing. But nonetheless I agree in principle.

My mom's side of the family was from South Dakota, and the few of them I see often have used it.

I do think if found guilty, Jussie Smollett should face enough of a penalty to dissuade others from doing the same things. I'm not going to say they should lock him up and throw away the key, but IMO the white powder in the envelope stunt sounds pretty serious. From what I've heard at work, postal inspectors typically don't have a sense of humor about that shit.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Welp there ya go

[Ifreann]

How do you get sixteen felony charges out of one crime?

[Galloism]

How do you get sixteen felony charges out of one crime?

Looks like they charged him once for each lie.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08 ... ndictment/

The indictment expands the case against the actor. The counts focus on allegedly false statements he made to two different Chicago Police officers. Each count covers various alleged acts that Smollett falsely described to the officers–including that he was hit by two men, that they yelled racial and homophobic slurs and poured a chemical on him.

That does seem a bit suspicious and over the top to charge a person with each element of a lie in telling an overall false story. But I'm not familiar with the law in this regard.

[Free African Union]

This over the top reaction by the CPD is unsurprising. Lying about a hate crime (although there was really only a 1% chance he was lying) is not worth 16 felony charges. If he was white he would be given a little slap on the wrist in comparison.

[Vassenor]

How do you get sixteen felony charges out of one crime?

Probably because they want to make an example of him for nearly getting the feds involved.