All Charges Against Jussie Smollett Dropped

[Greater vakolicci haven]

How do you get sixteen felony charges out of one crime?

Looks like they charged him once for each lie.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08 ... ndictment/

The indictment expands the case against the actor. The counts focus on allegedly false statements he made to two different Chicago Police officers. Each count covers various alleged acts that Smollett falsely described to the officers–including that he was hit by two men, that they yelled racial and homophobic slurs and poured a chemical on him.

That does seem a bit suspicious and over the top to charge a person with each element of a lie in telling an overall false story. But I'm not familiar with the law in this regard.

It's quite a simple area, each part of the statement which potentially was a criminal act is treated separately. Thus, the bleach and the physical blows are two separate cases of assault, and thus when reported they amount to two separate false statements.

[Gun Manufacturers]

How do you get sixteen felony charges out of one crime?

According to the articles on the subject, there was more than one "incident" that he is alleged to be involved it.

[Markev]

How do you get sixteen felony charges out of one crime?

Looks like they charged him once for each lie.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08 ... ndictment/

The indictment expands the case against the actor. The counts focus on allegedly false statements he made to two different Chicago Police officers. Each count covers various alleged acts that Smollett falsely described to the officers–including that he was hit by two men, that they yelled racial and homophobic slurs and poured a chemical on him.

That does seem a bit suspicious and over the top to charge a person with each element of a lie in telling an overall false story. But I'm not familiar with the law in this regard.

Speaking as someone formerly in law enforcement, it's essentially throwing as much stuff at him with the hope that either some will stick or he'll plea down to something lesser and save everyone the time and money.

[Ifreann]

How do you get sixteen felony charges out of one crime?

Looks like they charged him once for each lie.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08 ... ndictment/

The indictment expands the case against the actor. The counts focus on allegedly false statements he made to two different Chicago Police officers. Each count covers various alleged acts that Smollett falsely described to the officers–including that he was hit by two men, that they yelled racial and homophobic slurs and poured a chemical on him.

That does seem a bit suspicious and over the top to charge a person with each element of a lie in telling an overall false story. But I'm not familiar with the law in this regard.

Smacks a bit of trying to throw as many charges as possible at him.

[Novus America]

Looks like they charged him once for each lie.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08 ... ndictment/



That does seem a bit suspicious and over the top to charge a person with each element of a lie in telling an overall false story. But I'm not familiar with the law in this regard.

Speaking as someone formerly in law enforcement, it's essentially throwing as much stuff at him with the hope that either some will stick or he'll plea down to something lesser and save everyone the time and money.

Pretty much.
Also it is possible to charge someone with certain overlapping crimes, but not necessarily convict on certain overlapping charges.

You can be charged with with both first and second degree murder if the same person, but only convicted on one. You cannot be convicted on both because the are not fully separate crimes.

But you can be charged with both.
The jury will then decide which one to use.

The standard procedure is to charge the defendant with every possible crime you can legitimately argue. It gives you more leverage in plea negotiations plus only need to win on one to get a conviction.

So it gives you a better chance of winning as well.

[Novus America]

Looks like they charged him once for each lie.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08 ... ndictment/



That does seem a bit suspicious and over the top to charge a person with each element of a lie in telling an overall false story. But I'm not familiar with the law in this regard.

Smacks a bit of trying to throw as many charges as possible at him.

Yes. That is the standard procedure.

[Pope Joan]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

[Thermodolia]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

You’ll probably die before you receive any

[Free African Union]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

You’ll probably die before you receive any

Why should they? How often do right wingers assume someone is guilty of a crime before that person has been convicted? How many times do we hear about victimization at the hands of leftists that is bought by so many before any proof is given? Hate crimes, especially in this political environment, is something that is increasingly quite likely to happen. I'd rather be on the side of the victim from the start and be wrong about them than be on the side of those who have potentially perpetrated a hate crime.

[Vassenor]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

When did it become a crime to report the facts as the evidence appeared to show them?

I don't recall this sort of thing when that incident with the neo-Nazi who slashed his own palms then claimed a black bloc dude did it happened.

[The South Falls]

Good. He smeared all real victims of hate crimes. They will be condemned because of his idiocy and greed.

[New Stormhamer]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

When did it become a crime to report the facts as the evidence appeared to show them?

I don't recall this sort of thing when that incident with the neo-Nazi who slashed his own palms then claimed a black bloc dude did it happened.

I would like to imagine your nation you made is where you imagine in your mind you are living.

The evidence LITERALLY SHOWS that he paid 2 people to harass him and make fake hate crimes for attention.

[Vassenor]

When did it become a crime to report the facts as the evidence appeared to show them?

I don't recall this sort of thing when that incident with the neo-Nazi who slashed his own palms then claimed a black bloc dude did it happened.

I would like to imagine your nation you made is where you imagine in your mind you are living.

The evidence LITERALLY SHOWS that he paid 2 people to harass him and make fake hate crimes for attention.

That doesn't answer my question.

[New Stormhamer]

That doesn't answer my question.

It does though, just read it. You can't report on "facts" that are not even facts.

FACTS
over
FEELINGS

[Galloism]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

When did it become a crime to report the facts as the evidence appeared to show them?

I don't recall this sort of thing when that incident with the neo-Nazi who slashed his own palms then claimed a black bloc dude did it happened.

I don't think media needs to do a retraction - as you said, their reporting wasn't wrong - but I do think media should be doing follow up stories as things develop.

IE, in the case of the neo nazi who slashed his own palms and claimed a black guy did it, if it was reported that a black guy did it, the media should go later and correct the record that dumbass did it to himself.

[Ifreann]

That doesn't answer my question.

It does though, just read it. You can't report on "facts" that are not even facts.

FACTS
over
FEELINGS

Reporting "Jussie Smollett said that there was a crime" is reporting facts.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

When did it become a crime to report the facts as the evidence appeared to show them?

I don't recall this sort of thing when that incident with the neo-Nazi who slashed his own palms then claimed a black bloc dude did it happened.

There was never any evidence to support his claims, and they immediately had problems from the start.

[Internationalist Bastard]

When did it become a crime to report the facts as the evidence appeared to show them?

I don't recall this sort of thing when that incident with the neo-Nazi who slashed his own palms then claimed a black bloc dude did it happened.

There was never any evidence to support his claims, and they immediately had problems from the start.

I’ll admit it was pretty obvious he was lying but I think expecting news stations to not report on a minor celebrity reporting a hate crime to the police is expecting a lot

[Vassenor]

That doesn't answer my question.

It does though, just read it. You can't report on "facts" that are not even facts.

FACTS
over
FEELINGS

"This is what the evidence we have so far tells us" is feelings now?

[Washington Resistance Army]

There was never any evidence to support his claims, and they immediately had problems from the start.

I’ll admit it was pretty obvious he was lying but I think expecting news stations to not report on a minor celebrity reporting a hate crime to the police is expecting a lot

Oh I have no problem with them reporting on it. But the fact that everyone and their mother came out and immediately believed it to be true and denounced it and did all this dumb shit when his story had so many problems from the get go is obnoxious, and few people have been mature enough to walk back their support and denounce him.

[Liriena]

Okay?

[Liriena]

FACTS
over
FEELINGS

In my experience, everyone who says this kind of dorky shit doesn't know anything about "facts" and are the most oversensitive people alive.

[The South Falls]

WHY the FUCK does EVERYONE love ALTERNATING capitals SO much?

[Liriena]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

What is there to "retract" or "apologize" for? Media mouths were the first to report Smollett's claims, yes, but they were also the first to report that police thought he was lying. The public's reaction to the initial story wasn't their fault.

[Vassenor]

Still waiting for apologies and retractions from the many media mouths who took his part

What is there to "retract" or "apologize" for? Media mouths were the first to report Smollett's claims, yes, but they were also the first to report that police thought he was lying. The public's reaction to the initial story wasn't their fault.

But Trump said the press are the enemy so everything is their fault.