What are your favorite dumb/weird war weapons and why?

[Castelia]

I'm gonna catch flak for this (excuse the pun), but the F-35 Lightning II.

Yes, it's nice having a single-seat multirole that can fly up its own asshole, but I'm all for having dedicated aircraft for dedicated roles. Sure, that means more airframes and more money, but a dozen jobs for one aircraft is not my cup of tea.

Especially when the F-35 was designed with air to air missions taking a higher priority than air to ground. Whoever thought 180 rounds of 25-millimeter ammunition can replace 1,100 rounds of thirty-millimeter depleted uranium goodness is a bigger << DUMBASS >> than Trigger.

Despite you dissing the good F-35, I can wholeheartedly agree that they're trying to fit so many roles onto an aircraft that can only do so much. Upgrading the A-10 is what they should have done rather than try to push its job to an aircraft totally unsuited for the role.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I'm gonna catch flak for this (excuse the pun), but the F-35 Lightning II.

Yes, it's nice having a single-seat multirole that can fly up its own asshole, but I'm all for having dedicated aircraft for dedicated roles. Sure, that means more airframes and more money, but a dozen jobs for one aircraft is not my cup of tea.

Especially when the F-35 was designed with air to air missions taking a higher priority than air to ground. Whoever thought 180 rounds of 25-millimeter ammunition can replace 1,100 rounds of thirty-millimeter depleted uranium goodness is a bigger << DUMBASS >> than Trigger.

Su-57 is better anyway.

[Crookfur]

I'm gonna catch flak for this (excuse the pun), but the F-35 Lightning II.

Yes, it's nice having a single-seat multirole that can fly up its own asshole, but I'm all for having dedicated aircraft for dedicated roles. Sure, that means more airframes and more money, but a dozen jobs for one aircraft is not my cup of tea.

Especially when the F-35 was designed with air to air missions taking a higher priority than air to ground. Whoever thought 180 rounds of 25-millimeter ammunition can replace 1,100 rounds of thirty-millimeter depleted uranium goodness is a bigger << DUMBASS >> than Trigger.

Except the A-10 simply can not operate where there is a chance of meeting a modern air defence system and even in places like Afghanistan something like 80% of cas is delivered via the jdam blues.

[Infected Mushroom]

The Paris Gun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun

A giant artillery used by the Germans in WWI to launch the occasional shell straight into Paris as a form of psychological warfare.

The gun needed frequent maintenance/replacement and its accuracy was only good for city-sized targets.

[Infected Mushroom]

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The gun was fired from a wooded hill (Le mont de Joie) near Crépy and the first shell landed at 7:18 a.m. on 21 March 1918 on the Quai de la Seine, the explosion being heard across the city. Shells continued to land at 15 minute intervals, with 21 counted on the first day.[9] The initial assumption was these were bombs dropped from an airplane or Zeppelin flying too high to be seen or heard.[Note 3] Within a few hours, sufficient casing fragments had been collected to show that the explosions were the result of shells, not bombs. By the end of the day, military authorities were aware the shells were being fired from behind German lines by a new long-range gun, although there was initially press speculation on the origin of the shells. This included the theory they were being fired by German agents close by Paris, or even within the city itself, so abandoned quarries close to the city were searched for a hidden gun.[9] The actual gun was found within days by the French air reconnaissance[10] aviator Didier Daurat.

The Paris gun emplacement was dug out of the north side of the wooded hill at Coucy-le-Château-Auffrique.[Note 4] The gun was mounted on heavy steel rails embedded in concrete, facing Paris.

The Paris gun was used to shell Paris at a range of 120 km (75 mi). The distance was so far that the Coriolis effect—the rotation of the Earth—was substantial enough to affect trajectory calculations. The gun was fired at an azimuth of 232 degrees (west-southwest) from Crépy-en-Laon, which was at a latitude of 49.5 degrees North.

Between 320 to 367 shells were fired, at a maximum rate of around 20 per day. The shells killed 250 people and wounded 620, and caused considerable damage to property. The worst incident was on 29 March 1918, when a single shell hit the roof of the St-Gervais-et-St-Protais Church, collapsing the roof on to the congregation then hearing the Good Friday service. A total of 91 people were killed and 68 were wounded.

The gun was taken back to Germany in August 1918 as Allied advances threatened its security. No guns were ever captured by the Allies. It is believed that near the end of the war they were completely destroyed by the Germans. One spare mounting was captured by American troops in Bruyères-sur-Fère, near Château-Thierry, but the gun was never found; the construction plans seem to have been destroyed as well.[11]

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Under the terms of the Treaty of Versailles, the Germans were required to turn over a complete Paris Gun to the Allies, but they never complied with this.[12]

[The New California Republic]

279 isn’t all that weird nor stupid. Tank design at the time was just different.

I wouldn't call the 279 all that weird, hell I would even say design elements in the context of the time actually make a decent amount of sense.

Its four track design and disc-shaped body qualifies as weird, as it was a major departure from previous tank design, never entered service, and didn't influence subsequent tank design. That's what makes it weird.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

The urumi

It's an accident waiting to happen.

[Novus America]

I'm gonna catch flak for this (excuse the pun), but the F-35 Lightning II.

Yes, it's nice having a single-seat multirole that can fly up its own asshole, but I'm all for having dedicated aircraft for dedicated roles. Sure, that means more airframes and more money, but a dozen jobs for one aircraft is not my cup of tea.

Especially when the F-35 was designed with air to air missions taking a higher priority than air to ground. Whoever thought 180 rounds of 25-millimeter ammunition can replace 1,100 rounds of thirty-millimeter depleted uranium goodness is a bigger << DUMBASS >> than Trigger.

Su-57 is better anyway.

So why is almost nobody buying the Su-57? Even the Russians are only buying a handful. Also a different class of fighter. Su-57 is a Gen 4+ twin engine jet. More comparable to the Super Hornet than the F-35.

It never came close to living up to expectations. Turned out to basically just be an upgraded, but much more expensive Flanker.
It is not a bad plane, for the 4+ gen (it simply is not a real gen 5 plane).
But the added cost does not offer enough improvement over cheaper Flankers.
Which is why it is failing to generate sales.

[Novus America]

279 isn’t all that weird nor stupid. Tank design at the time was just different.

I wouldn't call the 279 all that weird, hell I would even say design elements in the context of the time actually make a decent amount of sense.

Its four track design and disc-shaped body qualifies as weird, as it was a major departure from previous tank design, never entered service, and didn't influence subsequent tank design. That's what makes it weird.

Also while interesting the 4 track design never actually worked properly.
It was unreliable, poorly protected, and made the tank very difficult to drive.

[Heloin]

Tankettes. Basically useless but I do love them so.

The Paris Gun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun

A giant artillery used by the Germans in WWI to launch the occasional shell straight into Paris as a form of psychological warfare.

The gun needed frequent maintenance/replacement and its accuracy was only good for city-sized targets.

You've clearly never heard of Project Babylon.

[Bogan Laker]

W A R S C Y T H E , because its really edgy and stupid.

[Novus America]

Tankettes. Basically useless but I do love them so.

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The Paris Gun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun

A giant artillery used by the Germans in WWI to launch the occasional shell straight into Paris as a form of psychological warfare.

The gun needed frequent maintenance/replacement and its accuracy was only good for city-sized targets.

You've clearly never heard of Project Babylon.

This too was crazy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-3_cannon

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Su-57 is better anyway.

So why is almost nobody buying the Su-57? Even the Russians are only buying a handful. Also a different class of fighter. Su-57 is a Gen 4+ twin engine jet. More comparable to the Super Hornet than the F-35.

It never came close to living up to expectations. Turned out to basically just be an upgraded, but much more expensive Flanker.
It is not a bad plane, for the 4+ gen (it simply is not a real gen 5 plane).
But the added cost does not offer enough improvement over cheaper Flankers.
Which is why it is failing to generate sales.

Oh I'm not talking about the real plane, I was just replying to his Ace Combat 7 reference by saying the Su-57 in game is better. I know next to nothing about modern planes.

[Andsed]

The Panzer VIII Maus. I mean just look at this thick boi:

It never saw combat but it was such a stupid idea I find it funny.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Panzer VIII Maus. I mean just look at this thick boi:

(Image)

It never saw combat but it was such a stupid idea I find it funny.

I'll fight you if you call my big boi stupid one more time

[Andsed]

The Panzer VIII Maus. I mean just look at this thick boi:

(Image)

It never saw combat but it was such a stupid idea I find it funny.

I'll fight you if you call my big boi stupid one more time

COME AT ME BRO!

But seriously this thing would just consume assloads of fuel(fuel the Germans did not have) and would just be bombed as it is a massive target. It was pretty useless.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'll fight you if you call my big boi stupid one more time

COME AT ME BRO!

But seriously this thing would just consume assloads of fuel(fuel the Germans did not have) and would just be bombed as it is a massive target. It was pretty useless.

Idea: make it twice as large and make the back half an anti air gun to give it AA protection

[Ifreann]

The Panzer VIII Maus. I mean just look at this thick boi:

(Image)

It never saw combat but it was such a stupid idea I find it funny.

In awe of the size of this lad.

[Castelia]

But seriously this thing would just consume assloads of fuel(fuel the Germans did not have) and would just be bombed as it is a massive target. It was pretty useless.

To be honest, it can find a use, but not the one it was intended for: as a mobile bunker. Park one of these things in a well-camouflaged position, let it fight, then move it once night falls so the enemy aircraft can't find it (if it isn't destroyed before night).

But as a tank? Yeah, they would have been better off as scrap.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Tankettes. Basically useless but I do love them so.

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The Paris Gun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun

A giant artillery used by the Germans in WWI to launch the occasional shell straight into Paris as a form of psychological warfare.

The gun needed frequent maintenance/replacement and its accuracy was only good for city-sized targets.

You've clearly never heard of Project Babylon.

Agreed. Tankkettes are awesome.

[Andsed]

COME AT ME BRO!

But seriously this thing would just consume assloads of fuel(fuel the Germans did not have) and would just be bombed as it is a massive target. It was pretty useless.

Idea: make it twice as large and make the back half an anti air gun to give it AA protection

So basically make it a bunker?

But seriously this thing would just consume assloads of fuel(fuel the Germans did not have) and would just be bombed as it is a massive target. It was pretty useless.

To be honest, it can find a use, but not the one it was intended for: as a mobile bunker. Park one of these things in a well-camouflaged position, let it fight, then move it once night falls so the enemy aircraft can't find it (if it isn't destroyed before night).

But as a tank? Yeah, they would have been better off as scrap.

But remember the Germans had massive fuel shortages for the entire war so I doubt it would be able to move very far before running out of fuel meaning it would probably just be overun before it can do much damage.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Idea: make it twice as large and make the back half an anti air gun to give it AA protection

So basically make it a bunker?

Yes, but mobile. It'll be GLORIOUS

[The New California Republic]

The Panzer VIII Maus. I mean just look at this thick boi:

(Image)

It never saw combat but it was such a stupid idea I find it funny.

In awe of the size of this lad.

It is over 8.5 inches thick on the front...

[West Leas Oros 2]

Did anyone mention the Bob Semple yet? You can’t have a thread like this without mentioning the Bob Semple.

[Andsed]

So basically make it a bunker?

Yes, but mobile. It'll be GLORIOUS

I mean if you can find enough fuel for it yeah it would pretty cool.