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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:58 pm

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Luminesa wrote:Honestly, a good 3-day suspension and taking away some of their immediate privileges would do the trick I think. Put them a couple feet deep in schoolwork, take away their friends, take away their cellphones and computer privileges, and they'll think twice. Most kids smarten-up when they know it's going to cost them if they don't. The most extreme punishment is not always the most effective, in my opinion.


Punishing them in that way doesn't work. There's a simpler solution. Force them to interact with these communities for a bit, a week or so after school.

This sounds like a good idea. Having kids interact with others outside their social circles works pretty well.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:58 pm

I mean, as a black guy in a mixed neighborhood, I'll admit that we make fun of white people a lot.

Only a few people bridge into racism, but that's different.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:59 pm

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San Lumen wrote:because its unacceptable for young people to be so bigoted

It's unacceptable also for whites to be demonised every single day by society and media.

Even half or maybe even most of the white people are so blind and ignorant that they hate themselves and other white people.

These kids haven't fallen into the trap.

I really believe that's wrong. And by the way, "Unless you're a nazi, you're blind!" Tf?

Also, a small proportion of people truly demonize white people.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:59 pm

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Eternal Lotharia wrote: they may have been Democrat-aligned for all I know


They actually said democrats shouldn't get a vote and republicans and trump are good lol

I agree with you about punishment though. Their identities should also be disclosed.


No the fuck they should not.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:59 pm

The South Falls wrote:I mean, as a black guy in a mixed neighborhood, I'll admit that we make fun of white people a lot.

Only a few people bridge into racism, but that's different.


Sure it is pal.
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Postby Karu Nadu » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:59 pm

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Then why is the story always about white children?

Because most other children in the US don't say racist shit about jews, black people, and mixed-race people?

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Postby The Black Party » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Just waiting for the day we can quantify racism, chart it, and see whether or not there is a rise or decline in racism. Till then, I'm absolutely willing to take y'all word for it.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm

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Scomagia wrote:You've never seen anti-latino racism from blacks and anti black racism from latinos? It's a very real thing.


You're talking to a progressive you realize. It's an ideological talking point about how racism works that white people are the ones who do it because something something power something something privilege. Denying reality is baked right in to the worldview.

It's indistinguishable from malicious gaslighting ofcourse.


I have no idea what your talking about. I will have you know there have been many racial and anti semitic incidents in my city in recent years.

I am in no way denying reality.

The overwhelmingly majority of the perpetrators were white. There is no anti white narrative in the media.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Karu Nadu wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Then why is the story always about white children?

Because most other children in the US don't say racist shit about jews, black people, and mixed-race people?


Nor do most white children. What evidence do you have it's white children doing it more? Have you studied it?
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Postby Correan » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, as a black guy in a mixed neighborhood, I'll admit that we make fun of white people a lot.

Only a few people bridge into racism, but that's different.


Sure it is pal.

Yup, sure.

And white people are careful of even saying the word "black" when referring to black people.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm

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Scomagia wrote:You've never seen anti-latino racism from blacks and anti black racism from latinos? It's a very real thing.


That's nothing compared to the anti-White racism from both.

And then there's Asians... hoooo boy.

My personal experience is that the racism between latinos and blacks is worse than either groups racism against whites. Not that I'm saying that's a universal truth, it's just been what I've observed.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:00 pm

The South Falls wrote:I mean, as a black guy in a mixed neighborhood, I'll admit that we make fun of white people a lot.

Only a few people bridge into racism, but that's different.


But when we tease black people, all of a sudden it’s literally the Congo Free State all over again.

Racism is very much real, but for the love of Christ, a buncha kids saying edgy shit for the sake of being edgy is not what I’d call alarming.

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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:01 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, as a black guy in a mixed neighborhood, I'll admit that we make fun of white people a lot.

Only a few people bridge into racism, but that's different.


Sure it is pal.

Saying "haha that one white girl who admitted to fucking a tree is stupid"

is different from "white people are ruining the world"
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Postby Uxupox » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:01 pm

Shrive wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote: they may have been Democrat-aligned for all I know


They actually said democrats shouldn't get a vote and republicans and trump are good lol

I agree with you about punishment though. Their identities should also be disclosed.


How about we don’t dox kids.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Karu Nadu wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Then why is the story always about white children?

Because most other children in the US don't say racist shit about jews, black people, and mixed-race people?


Maybe in Narnia that's true; unfortunately we don't live there.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
You're talking to a progressive you realize. It's an ideological talking point about how racism works that white people are the ones who do it because something something power something something privilege. Denying reality is baked right in to the worldview.

It's indistinguishable from malicious gaslighting ofcourse.


I have no idea what your talking about. I will have you know there have been many racial and anti semitic incidents in my city in recent years.

I am in no way denying reality.


Right let's see if you can grapple with this.

Do you accept that it is possible for the media to be misrepresenting an issue by only reporting on it when a certain category of people do it, and if you do, how do you know that isn't happening to you?

Do you have any empirical evidence this is a white phenomanae? Not rationalizations, not ideological talking points, data. The media and their reporting on a topic is not quantitative data.
It's qualitative data, of low quality. Which is precisely the trick they play to warp peoples understanding of reality.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, as a black guy in a mixed neighborhood, I'll admit that we make fun of white people a lot.

Only a few people bridge into racism, but that's different.


But when we tease black people, all of a sudden it’s literally the Congo Free State all over again.

Racism is very much real, but for the love of Christ, a buncha kids saying edgy shit for the sake of being edgy is not what I’d call alarming.

I mean, we as black people get teased.

For example, when we were doing the egg-baby project in health, one of my guys (white) said "It's time to do the job, leave the egg for milk". It's only when the real "black people are bad" kkk kids come around, then it's racism.
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Postby Fethard » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

They're high school kids acting like high schoolers. This isn't news.

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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Shrive wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote: they may have been Democrat-aligned for all I know


They actually said democrats shouldn't get a vote and republicans and trump are good lol

I agree with you about punishment though. Their identities should also be disclosed.

...why do you want to doxx kids?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Shrive wrote:
They actually said democrats shouldn't get a vote and republicans and trump are good lol

I agree with you about punishment though. Their identities should also be disclosed.

That's where I disagree. I believe they should be shamed and humiliated in the moment, not harassed for the rest of their life. Let's use this shaming and punishment as a harsh teaching lesson, not as a excuse to harass them for the rest of their lives.

I do agree they should not be harassed for the rest of their days

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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:This really. Only in Current Year , USA would something like this see the light of day.

because its unacceptable for young people to be so bigoted


Yeah cuz ruining their lives by exposing them on social media thus attracting extremists who might dox or harass them is going to make them realize ''hurr maybe I'm the bad guy!''.

And how fucking ironic is it that the school is going to seek out punishment, lol for what? Having hateful views? Why not do the same to other students? Like black kids who use the word cracker or hispanics who say gringo, etc.? Oh well why not? We gotta stomp out bigotry don't we? So much for ''ignoring negativity''.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:03 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Shrive wrote:
They actually said democrats shouldn't get a vote and republicans and trump are good lol

I agree with you about punishment though. Their identities should also be disclosed.

...why do you want to doxx kids?

That'll just ruin their lives. They're stupid, that's not our fault.
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Postby Esternial » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:04 pm

As long as it just remains a bunch of offensive jokes that happen to work within their group of friends, I don't see a big issue. Once it goes beyond that, it does become a problem (e.g. actively antagonizing people, inflicting/encouraging violence)

Of course it's hard to gauge whether they actually believe what they're saying, so some disciplinary action would be in its place - especially this day and age. Just this video by itself though does not seem like a huge issue to me.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:04 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Sure it is pal.

Saying "haha that one white girl who admitted to fucking a tree is stupid"

is different from "white people are ruining the world"


You realize if white people talk that way they get called out, right?

Make any excuse you want, or you can face facts.

It's a matter of cultural discourse and development of that discourse. You're about 30 years behind and falling further the longer this progressive shit gets peddled.
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:04 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Shrive wrote:
They actually said democrats shouldn't get a vote and republicans and trump are good lol

I agree with you about punishment though. Their identities should also be disclosed.

That's where I disagree. I believe they should be shamed and humiliated in the moment, not harassed for the rest of their life. Let's use this shaming and punishment as a harsh teaching lesson, not as a excuse to harass them for the rest of their lives.

Or we could do neither.
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