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Postby Saiwania » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:52 pm

What I'm more outraged by is that they made it public knowledge for the peanut gallery. Talk like this is for behind closed doors within a small enough circle to where it can't be leaked. And no, people decide to become racist all the time- without being taught by their parents or some stereotype. From either the internet or personal experience. I'm one example.

For me, its not that differences among people makes those people bad necessarily. I just deem it significant enough as to consider those people different in the first place. Of course I'm not going to just ignore that and treat every group exactly the same like some robot, or to want to embrace diversity like some liberal. I see more value not in change, but in what I'm familiar with or used to.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:52 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No they don't. Please show an example of non whites holding such bigoted views like these.


To be clear, you're saying that minorities are never anti-semitic and never say nigger?
That it doesn't happen?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

Someone needs to take San Lumen through some mixed Hispanic and Black neighborhoods. You wanna see racism...hoo boy.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:52 pm

Yusseria wrote:
The South Falls wrote:It's pretty stupid, and it shows a bad general trend.

A trend where?

A trend towards racism in our society.
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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:53 pm

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Chernoslavia wrote:This really. Only in Current Year , USA would something like this see the light of day.

because its unacceptable for young people to be so bigoted

And it's unacceptable for kids to lie to their parents but it still happens.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
To be clear, you're saying that minorities are never anti-semitic and never say nigger?
That it doesn't happen?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

I didnt say that but you don't ever see non whites making such comments like in the video or trying to block a white person from entering their apartment or telling them to get off the bus or calling the police on a political candidate canvassing.


Nah you just organize into groups to block white people from gatherings and harass people in the media who go against your political narrative instead, much better.

Here's the thing San, I can give you hundreds of examples of the kind of shit you're asking for, but not from newspapers because they don't publish it, because individuals being racist ISN'T NEWSWORTHY. The only reason they publish it when whites do it is because it panders to peoples preconceptions about that group.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:53 pm

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Eternal Lotharia wrote:Wait...what? :blink:

:lol2:

Yeah, it's pretty hilarious.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:53 pm

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The Black Party wrote:You don't own "future citizens." What makes you think you have the right to decide how citizens should be? Who are you?


Stop using a false narrative. This isn't about owning them, it's about teaching them they were wrong and punishing them for such racism, it shouldn't be tolerated without punishment.


Racism shouldn't be punished.
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Postby Uxupox » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
To be clear, you're saying that minorities are never anti-semitic and never say nigger?
That it doesn't happen?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

I didnt say that but you don't ever see non whites making such comments like in the video or trying to block a white person from entering their apartment or telling them to get off the bus or calling the police on a political candidate canvassing.


That’s not true at all bro.

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 pm

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Luminesa wrote:Our country has always been racist against someone. Newsflash, racism has existed since long before Trump was a twinkle in his momma's eye. Being aware of history is the first step to genuinely solving the issue, rather than acting like nothing existed before 2016.

I didn't mention Trump at all. And I am well aware. We need to look to the future and do this for our future, not the past nor blame anyone in particular.

I am not blaming Republicans for this in this instance, they may have been Democrat-aligned for all I know. Besides, blaming parties is useless. Even if correct, it fans the flames.

These particular students need to be taught that this is not ok. If they show remorse, fine. But, posting a web video like this to get views is sickening.

They deserve to be punished. Community Service, maybe Juvie, or working at a multiethnic workplace, as community service. Either way, they need to be punished.

Honestly, a good 3-day suspension and taking away some of their immediate privileges would do the trick I think. Put them a couple feet deep in schoolwork, take away their friends, take away their cellphones and computer privileges, and they'll think twice. Most kids smarten-up when they know it's going to cost them if they don't. The most extreme punishment is not always the most effective, in my opinion.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:TBF he didn't say anything about Trump or 2016.

Also hai lumacorn! :hug:

Hai! :hug:

I think the problem is that he said the country is "becoming" racist. Racism has always existed somewhere in this country.

Eh, fair enough.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
To be clear, you're saying that minorities are never anti-semitic and never say nigger?
That it doesn't happen?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

Someone needs to take San Lumen through some mixed Hispanic and Black neighborhoods. You wanna see racism...hoo boy.

I have been through black and hispanic neighborhoods. Ive never heard talk like this.

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Postby The Black Party » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 pm

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The Black Party wrote:You don't own "future citizens." What makes you think you have the right to decide how citizens should be? Who are you?


Stop using a false narrative. This isn't about owning them, it's about teaching them they were wrong and punishing them for such racism, it shouldn't be tolerated without punishment.

Because you decide what is wrong and what is right? Oh, hail the mighty God Emperor. Who do you think you are? Why do you think you should be allowed to control what other people think? Why is your perception of what is right and wrong above others? To think such is despicable.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:54 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Yusseria wrote:A trend where?

A trend towards racism in our society.

No it doesn't. A trend and a single incident are vastly different.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:55 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I didnt say that but you don't ever see non whites making such comments like in the video or trying to block a white person from entering their apartment or telling them to get off the bus or calling the police on a political candidate canvassing.


Nah you just organize into groups to block white people from gatherings and harass people in the media who go against your political narrative instead, much better.

Here's the thing San, I can give you hundreds of examples of the kind of shit you're asking for, but not from newspapers because they don't publish it, because individuals being racist ISN'T NEWSWORTHY. The only reason they publish it when whites do it is that it panders to peoples preconceptions about that group.

What about the black guys demonstrating against white people?
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Someone needs to take San Lumen through some mixed Hispanic and Black neighborhoods. You wanna see racism...hoo boy.

I have been through black and hispanic neighborhoods. Ive never heard talk like this.

You've never seen anti-latino racism from blacks and anti black racism from latinos? It's a very real thing.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:56 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:

....

Look, I know people who could be called cognitively disabled, hell I myself could be considered that way.

The word has evolved beyond that, into an alternate word for stupid, by people regardless of disability, I know plenty of people who are considered cognitively disabled who use it. Stop changing the subject with a Red Herring.


Am I allowed to call my white friends "nigga" then? After all, it's evolved from a bigoted word into an alternative word for "dude/bro".
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Postby Shrive » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:56 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote: they may have been Democrat-aligned for all I know


They actually said democrats shouldn't get a vote and republicans and trump are good lol

I agree with you about punishment though. Their identities should also be disclosed.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:56 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I didn't mention Trump at all. And I am well aware. We need to look to the future and do this for our future, not the past nor blame anyone in particular.

I am not blaming Republicans for this in this instance, they may have been Democrat-aligned for all I know. Besides, blaming parties is useless. Even if correct, it fans the flames.

These particular students need to be taught that this is not ok. If they show remorse, fine. But, posting a web video like this to get views is sickening.

They deserve to be punished. Community Service, maybe Juvie, or working at a multiethnic workplace, as community service. Either way, they need to be punished.

Honestly, a good 3-day suspension and taking away some of their immediate privileges would do the trick I think. Put them a couple feet deep in schoolwork, take away their friends, take away their cellphones and computer privileges, and they'll think twice. Most kids smarten-up when they know it's going to cost them if they don't. The most extreme punishment is not always the most effective, in my opinion.


Punishing them in that way doesn't work. There's a simpler solution. Force them to interact with these communities for a bit, a week or so after school.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:56 pm

Scomagia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:A trend towards racism in our society.

No it doesn't. A trend and a single incident are vastly different.

There are so many incidents of racism against black white. There are many.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Someone needs to take San Lumen through some mixed Hispanic and Black neighborhoods. You wanna see racism...hoo boy.

I have been through black and hispanic neighborhoods. Ive never heard talk like this.

You've never seen a Hispanic person make fun of another Hispanic person? Happens more often than you think. Also, East Harlem in the 90's. Once again this comes back to "your own experiences do not negate the world outside your anecdotal evidence".
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:57 pm

Scomagia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I have been through black and hispanic neighborhoods. Ive never heard talk like this.

You've never seen anti-latino racism from blacks and anti black racism from latinos? It's a very real thing.


That's nothing compared to the anti-White racism from both.

And then there's Asians... hoooo boy.
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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Someone needs to take San Lumen through some mixed Hispanic and Black neighborhoods. You wanna see racism...hoo boy.

I have been through black and hispanic neighborhoods. Ive never heard talk like this.

Clearly we need to take your anecdotes as absolute truth.
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Postby Correan » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:This really. Only in Current Year , USA would something like this see the light of day.

because its unacceptable for young people to be so bigoted

It's unacceptable also for whites to be demonised every single day by society and media.

Even half or maybe even most of the white people are so blind and ignorant that they hate themselves and other white people.

These kids haven't fallen into the trap.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:57 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:

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Look, I know people who could be called cognitively disabled, hell I myself could be considered that way.

The word has evolved beyond that, into an alternate word for stupid, by people regardless of disability, I know plenty of people who are considered cognitively disabled who use it. Stop changing the subject with a Red Herring.

Nope. Only the cognitively disabled can use that word. If you use it, it's ableist. They can reclaim it, you can't.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:57 pm

Scomagia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I have been through black and hispanic neighborhoods. Ive never heard talk like this.

You've never seen anti-latino racism from blacks and anti black racism from latinos? It's a very real thing.


You're talking to a progressive you realize. It's an ideological talking point about how racism works that white people are the ones who do it because something something power something something privilege. Denying reality is baked right in to the worldview.

It's indistinguishable from malicious gaslighting ofcourse.
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