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Postby Torrocca » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:40 pm

Sicaris wrote:
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Yeah, that's a cute opinion and all, but:



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What? Those don’t even remotely relate.

Are you trying to say you want to debate me on this, but won’t because a moderator said to stay on topic (as you’re supposed to)? Because if that is, then I think zig understand what you mean.

Regardless, I’d be happy to talk about it somewhere else.


Precisely what I'm saying.

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What? Those don’t even remotely relate.

Are you trying to say you want to debate me on this, but won’t because a moderator said to stay on topic (as you’re supposed to)? Because if that is, then I think zig understand what you mean.

Regardless, I’d be happy to talk about it somewhere else.

That's exactly what she's saying. The LWDT might be a good place to bring this conversation.


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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:43 pm

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Pasong Tirad wrote:That's exactly what she's saying. The LWDT might be a good place to bring this conversation.


FTFY, comrade :3

Aw crap, sorry! My bad. Hopefully won't happen again.

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:44 pm

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FTFY, comrade :3

Aw crap, sorry! My bad. Hopefully won't happen again.


No worries, it's all groovy ^_^

But, yeah, we should really get back to the topic at hand. Is Jerry Falwell's recent threat to shoot AoC relevant to this thread? Because that sounds like something conversation-worthy.
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Postby Sicaris » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:45 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Sicaris wrote:
What? Those don’t even remotely relate.

Are you trying to say you want to debate me on this, but won’t because a moderator said to stay on topic (as you’re supposed to)? Because if that is, then I think zig understand what you mean.

Regardless, I’d be happy to talk about it somewhere else.

That's exactly what he's saying. The LWDT might be a good place to bring this conversation.


I’m not bringing a discussion about this into a topic where it would essentially be an echo chamber of people ranting at me saying I’m wrong, but thanks for the offer.

Regardless, back to the source topic from the OP.
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Farn, please either participate in the thread or dispassionately enforce the rules in it. You know better than to think doing both is acceptable.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:47 am

Torrocca wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Aw crap, sorry! My bad. Hopefully won't happen again.


No worries, it's all groovy ^_^

But, yeah, we should really get back to the topic at hand. Is Jerry Falwell's recent threat to shoot AoC relevant to this thread? Because that sounds like something conversation-worthy.

Isn't Jerry Falwell dead?
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Postby Duvniask » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:31 am

Ifreann wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
No worries, it's all groovy ^_^

But, yeah, we should really get back to the topic at hand. Is Jerry Falwell's recent threat to shoot AoC relevant to this thread? Because that sounds like something conversation-worthy.

Isn't Jerry Falwell dead?

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:43 am

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Ifreann wrote:Isn't Jerry Falwell dead?

The 'ole turd produced offspring, one of which is the aforementioned Jerry Falwell Jr.

Ugh, can't the media do anything but remake old stuff?
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Postby Duvniask » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Duvniask wrote:The 'ole turd produced offspring, one of which is the aforementioned Jerry Falwell Jr.

Ugh, can't the media do anything but remake old stuff?

We're actually stuck in the 1980s.

One explanation for that.
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Postby Wabberjocky » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:18 am

The important thing: she's a babe.

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Postby Fahran » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:25 am

Wabberjocky wrote:The important thing: she's a babe.

I don't think that's the take-away here. It would be nice if I got a pass on more things for being pretty though. :eyebrow:
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:27 am

Wabberjocky wrote:The important thing: she's a babe.


Uh what? She's a politician.

Politicians don't have sex, and are therefor incapable of being sexy.

Why else is it a big scandal every time we find out a politician is having sex with someone if it isn't because it's proof they aren't really a politician?
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Postby Aclion » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:35 am

Wabberjocky wrote:The important thing: she's a babe.

She's 7,9 on the hot crazy chart, she's in the danger zone. Stay out of the danger zone.
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Postby Valkyrie Germany » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:36 am

So... this is a threadjacking thread? Cool, let’s talk about Minecraft.
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Postby Aclion » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:40 am

Valkyrie Germany wrote:So... this is a threadjacking thread? Cool, let’s talk about Minecraft.

Apparently, NS mods wont do anything if you do. They've actually participated in the threadjack. I think they're hoping it will get so bad I will throw my hand up and ask them to lock it.
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Postby Goblin Market » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:49 am

Aclion wrote:I think they're hoping it will get so bad I will throw my hand up and ask them to lock it.


Yeah, that's probably it...couldn't possibly be because the moderation team consists of a handful of unpaid volunteers who have jobs and families and lives of their own, and so have quite a lot on their plate besides addressing your specific needs.

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Postby Aclion » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:53 am

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Aclion wrote:I think they're hoping it will get so bad I will throw my hand up and ask them to lock it.


Yeah, that's probably it...couldn't possibly be because the moderation team consists of a handful of unpaid volunteers who have jobs and families and lives of their own, and so have quite a lot on their plate besides addressing your specific needs.

They seem to have no shortage of time time to entrap me or leak the content of my GCRs to harassers.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:05 am

Aclion wrote:
Goblin Market wrote:
Yeah, that's probably it...couldn't possibly be because the moderation team consists of a handful of unpaid volunteers who have jobs and families and lives of their own, and so have quite a lot on their plate besides addressing your specific needs.

They seem to have no shortage of time time to entrap me or leak the content of my GCRs to harassers.


You do realise there is an actual procedure for reporting moderator abuse, and being passive-aggressive on the forums is not it, right?
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Postby Fahran » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:13 am

Aclion wrote:They seem to have no shortage of time time to entrap me or leak the content of my GCRs to harassers.

If you believe a thread-jack is occurring, and it looks like a thread-jack is occurring at the moment - one I've perhaps nudged a bit and then tried to get back on topic, you can try to rein it in through commenting on the actual subject of the thread or you can link the thread in Moderation. I would encourage you to do the latter at this point if you feel the rules are being broken and there's no other recourse. Beyond that, I'll try to get us back on topic.

If the accusations of campaign finance violations turn out to be true, and I know that's a big if at the moment, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is fined, will anyone who has supported her here change their minds about who she is or what she stands for?
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:13 am

Eh, reading through this and the articles I'm seeing an awful lot of "fluff" - I mean she can still be for better, greener transport and have to have her team use cars and that. Quite apart from the security issues, that line of reasoning is a bit like the whole "oh you hate capitalism but you use an Iphone!" gotcha. Yeah, you can criticize a system that by necessity you have to use.

The rest? I dunno. There's a lot of speculation, and when taken with the whole "but she uses cars!!!" crap it just reads like someone's chucking absolutely everything they can at the wall to see what sticks. I doubt it'll convince anyone with an opinion on her one way or the other, but it sure is interesting to see the big guns being deployed on both sides of the acceptable political spectrum against her.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:15 am

I came because of the silly title, but what are we actually discussing here?
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:16 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I came because of the silly title, but what are we actually discussing here?


People associated with AOC's campaign may have done something dodgy with finances, or they may not have.

Also her campaign team etc. use cars.
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Postby Aclion » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:16 am

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Aclion wrote:They seem to have no shortage of time time to entrap me or leak the content of my GCRs to harassers.


You do realise there is an actual procedure for reporting moderator abuse, and being passive-aggressive on the forums is not it, right?

It's already been reported and apologized for.

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I came because of the silly title, but what are we actually discussing here?

The guy to jump started AOC's(and that of many of the New Democrats) campaign has diverted funds from her campaign to his corporations, and AOC is defending it.
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