AOC in campaign money trouble

[Aureumterra]

As much as I would love to have a socialist given the boot, this seems mostly her chief of staff’s fault, to which I doubt AOC herself would be in much legal trouble (the political trouble is a whole other issue, which is real complicated)

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Obviously what is needed is a couple dozen Congressional investigations, toss in an FBI probe or three and a couple special reports on Fox "News." Because that's how we react to strong, independent, intelligent women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

Oh man, that irony. THAT IRONY. I don't think you could have made a more tone-deaf statement. Also, Cortez is not intelligent. Even Democrats agree with us on that.

[Bombadil]

Obviously what is needed is a couple dozen Congressional investigations, toss in an FBI probe or three and a couple special reports on Fox "News." Because that's how we react to strong, independent, intelligent women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

Oh man, that irony. THAT IRONY. I don't think you could have made a more tone-deaf statement. Also, Cortez is not intelligent. Even Democrats agree with us on that.

She came second in the Microbiology category of the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on the lifespan of the nematode C. elegans

I suspect she's more intelligent than near any of us.

[Kowani]

Obviously what is needed is a couple dozen Congressional investigations, toss in an FBI probe or three and a couple special reports on Fox "News." Because that's how we react to strong, independent, intelligent women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

Oh man, that irony. THAT IRONY. I don't think you could have made a more tone-deaf statement. Also, Cortez is not intelligent. Even Democrats agree with us on that.

Oh, are we trying to claim that a few gaffes while speaking as a novice congresswoman make her stupid? Because if so, the entire assembly might as well be included.

[Aureumterra]

Obviously what is needed is a couple dozen Congressional investigations, toss in an FBI probe or three

I doubt they will probe AOC herself, her chief of staff maybe, but not AOC, however, congress may possibly have an open door session on this matter

and a couple special reports on Fox "News."

Probably

strong

Debatable

independent

Debatable

intelligent

very debatable

women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

I don’t see what Trump has to do with this

[The Black Forrest]

I mean, damn near every president for decades has been murderous in one way or another, but psychopathy is so far unproven and while Trump wants to be dictator, he's very unlikely to become one.

He’s like an even more incompetent Il Duce, with more fake hair.

Hmmmm Il Duce.....lets see....some of the things he did....

Reclaimed land for Italy.
Said land he created more railroads, schools, bridges, and some sports stadiums.
Made farmer concentrate of specific crops which made Italy a little more self-sufficient.
gave money to steel and iron production.
increased the use of hydro-electric power.

donnie has done......I'm thinking.....uhmmmmm.....ok.....uhm.....

[The Black Forrest]

women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

I don’t see what Trump has to do with this

Really?

His credit in this is not a compliment.

He is such an offensive fuck wit; women are motivated to get into politics.

[Thermodolia]

He’s like an even more incompetent Il Duce, with more fake hair.

Hmmmm Il Duce.....lets see....some of the things he did....

Reclaimed land for Italy.
Said land he created more railroads, schools, bridges, and some sports stadiums.
Made farmer concentrate of specific crops which made Italy a little more self-sufficient.
gave money to steel and iron production.
increased the use of hydro-electric power.

donnie has done......I'm thinking.....uhmmmmm.....ok.....uhm.....

Well Trump has done umm... some good like the tariffs and even that was bungled

[Ifreann]

Obviously what is needed is a couple dozen Congressional investigations, toss in an FBI probe or three and a couple special reports on Fox "News." Because that's how we react to strong, independent, intelligent women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

Oh man, that irony. THAT IRONY. I don't think you could have made a more tone-deaf statement. Also, Cortez is not intelligent. Even Democrats agree with us on that.

Dude, it's Ocasio-Cortez. Double-barrelled surname.

[Torrocca]

Obviously what is needed is a couple dozen Congressional investigations, toss in an FBI probe or three and a couple special reports on Fox "News." Because that's how we react to strong, independent, intelligent women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

Oh man, that irony. THAT IRONY. I don't think you could have made a more tone-deaf statement. Also, Cortez is not intelligent. Even Democrats agree with us on that.

>Ocasio-Cortez isn't intelligent
>Graduated cum laude ("with honors" for you heathen non-Latinates out there, AKA in the top 30-25% of her entire graduating class) from Boston University with a Bachelor's degree in international relations and economics after five years of study

I'm impressed by this lack of intelligence possessed by Ocasio-Cortez, truly. I really am. Do tell us more about how stupid somebody with five years of advanced education really is, oh Great One.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Oh man, that irony. THAT IRONY. I don't think you could have made a more tone-deaf statement. Also, Cortez is not intelligent. Even Democrats agree with us on that.

>Ocasio-Cortez isn't intelligent
>Graduated cum laude ("with honors" for you heathen non-Latinates out there, AKA in the top 30-25% of her entire graduating class) from Boston University with a Bachelor's degree in international relations and economics after five years of study

I'm impressed by this lack of intelligence possessed by Ocasio-Cortez, truly. I really am. Do tell us more about how stupid somebody with five years of advanced education really is, oh Great One.

Support of nationwide $15 minimum wage shows she isn't exactly a stellar economic mind tbh

[Torrocca]

>Ocasio-Cortez isn't intelligent
>Graduated cum laude ("with honors" for you heathen non-Latinates out there, AKA in the top 30-25% of her entire graduating class) from Boston University with a Bachelor's degree in international relations and economics after five years of study

I'm impressed by this lack of intelligence possessed by Ocasio-Cortez, truly. I really am. Do tell us more about how stupid somebody with five years of advanced education really is, oh Great One.

Support of nationwide $15 minimum wage shows she isn't exactly a stellar economic mind tbh

And where's your support for that accusation? :^3

[Fahran]

Obviously what is needed is a couple dozen Congressional investigations, toss in an FBI probe or three and a couple special reports on Fox "News." Because that's how we react to strong, independent, intelligent women who dare enter politics. MAGA!

It seems to be a blanket response to any political figure we vaguely dislike at the moment. I don't genuinely believe her gender is the issue, though women on both sides of the political aisle tend to bear the brunt of gendered attacks. Calling her strong or intelligent is something of a stretch as well. All politicians are more intelligent than average as rule, even Trump in all likelihood. That doesn't mean the positions they articulate will always be well-considered. I'd be content to call her charismatic at best and a media darling at worst.

[Ifreann]

>Ocasio-Cortez isn't intelligent
>Graduated cum laude ("with honors" for you heathen non-Latinates out there, AKA in the top 30-25% of her entire graduating class) from Boston University with a Bachelor's degree in international relations and economics after five years of study

I'm impressed by this lack of intelligence possessed by Ocasio-Cortez, truly. I really am. Do tell us more about how stupid somebody with five years of advanced education really is, oh Great One.

Support of nationwide $15 minimum wage shows she isn't exactly a stellar economic mind tbh

Alternatively, she has different values and principles than you.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Support of nationwide $15 minimum wage shows she isn't exactly a stellar economic mind tbh

And where's your support for that accusation? :^3

Basing understanding of how costs of living vary, sometimes dramatically, across the nation and that trying to adopt a one size fits all policy in response to something that isn't even a problem in some areas is next level stupid.

[Torrocca]

And where's your support for that accusation? :^3

Basing understanding of how costs of living vary, sometimes dramatically, across the nation and that trying to adopt a one size fits all policy in response to something that isn't even a problem in some areas is next level stupid.

And why do you find it to be a problem, if it'll raise the overall standard amount of income for everyone?

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Oh man, that irony. THAT IRONY. I don't think you could have made a more tone-deaf statement. Also, Cortez is not intelligent. Even Democrats agree with us on that.

>Ocasio-Cortez isn't intelligent
>Graduated cum laude ("with honors" for you heathen non-Latinates out there, AKA in the top 30-25% of her entire graduating class) from Boston University with a Bachelor's degree in international relations and economics after five years of study

I'm impressed by this lack of intelligence possessed by Ocasio-Cortez, truly. I really am. Do tell us more about how stupid somebody with five years of advanced education really is, oh Great One.

#MAGA

[Kowani]

Basing understanding of how costs of living vary, sometimes dramatically, across the nation and that trying to adopt a one size fits all policy in response to something that isn't even a problem in some areas is next level stupid.

And why do you find it to be a problem, if it'll raise the overall standard amount of income for everyone?

I’ll preempt him. “Because not everyone can afford to pay their workers a living wage, because cost of living is different in Nowhere, Nebraska than Chicago, and value of labor”
Did I miss anything?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Basing understanding of how costs of living vary, sometimes dramatically, across the nation and that trying to adopt a one size fits all policy in response to something that isn't even a problem in some areas is next level stupid.

And why do you find it to be a problem, if it'll raise the overall standard amount of income for everyone?

Twofold: one is because there's been a few studies done at this point on $15 minimum wage at more locals levels that it really actually doesn't raise anyones income after you factor in business price hikes and working hours cuts and two because it disproportionately harms small businesses who can't keep up with megacorporations and are forced to downsize and or lay people off because they can't give out more money without more income to justify it.

An ideal solution would be a repeal of federal minimum wage and a new law or amendment that dictates that states/local areas need to have a minimum wage pegged to some sorta cost of living index so that everyone in every area makes what they need at the bare minimum.

[Torrocca]

And why do you find it to be a problem, if it'll raise the overall standard amount of income for everyone?

Twofold: one is because there's been a few studies done at this point on $15 minimum wage at more locals levels done that it really actually doesn't raise anyones income after you factor in business price hikes and working hours cuts

... So then, if you want the working class to have money, illegalize a business owner's ability to arbitrarily cut working hours in response to a raise in minimum wage?

and two because it disproportionately harms small businesses who can't keep up with megacorporations and are forced to downsize and or lay people off because they can't give out more money without more income to justify it.

Then A) introduce new taxes to the corporations to reduce the power imbalance and B) if the boss of a small business isn't willing to ensure a living wage for the workers, say by cutting back their own wages a bit, then they can get fucked anyways, because fuck Capitalism.

An ideal solution would be a repeal of federal minimum wage and a new law or amendment that dictates that states/local areas need to have a minimum wage pegged to some sorta cost of living index so that everyone in every area makes what they need at the bare minimum.

An ideal solution would be democracy in every business in America.

[Bloodshade]

It would be a big disappointment if Ocasio-Cortez was directly involved in this little scandal but I'm not going to jump to conclusions right now because it'd be premature to do so. My hope in her would definitely waver if she couldn't manage to respond to these allegations or prove them wrong.

Still, I do genuinely wonder why some dislike her so passionately. I mean, we've all been complaining about how rigged and deeply corrupt the system is and how rich corporations have been exploiting society for years through actions such as lobbying but when someone like Bernie or AOC come along and try to change things up a bit, it's like as if people think they're the re-incarnation of Stalin. I'm not saying these two are messiahs of the people but they are definitely proponents for change.

I can understand that her inexperience is a clear issue but otherwise, what's wrong with her or her platform?

[The Black Forrest]

And why do you find it to be a problem, if it'll raise the overall standard amount of income for everyone?

Twofold: one is because there's been a few studies done at this point on $15 minimum wage at more locals levels that it really actually doesn't raise anyones income after you factor in business price hikes and working hours cuts and two because it disproportionately harms small businesses who can't keep up with megacorporations and are forced to downsize and or lay people off because they can't give out more money without more income to justify it.

An ideal solution would be a repeal of federal minimum wage and a new law or amendment that dictates that states/local areas need to have a minimum wage pegged to some sorta cost of living index so that everyone in every area makes what they need at the bare minimum.

Won't work. We used to have COLA increases then the poor wittle free marketeers said that was hurting the company and the shareholders. After all your job is your reward.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Twofold: one is because there's been a few studies done at this point on $15 minimum wage at more locals levels done that it really actually doesn't raise anyones income after you factor in business price hikes and working hours cuts

... So then, if you want the working class to have money, illegalize a business owner's ability to arbitrarily cut working hours in response to a raise in minimum wage?

and two because it disproportionately harms small businesses who can't keep up with megacorporations and are forced to downsize and or lay people off because they can't give out more money without more income to justify it.

Then A) introduce new taxes to the corporations to reduce the power imbalance and B) if the boss of a small business isn't willing to ensure a living wage for the workers, say by cutting back their own wages a bit, then they can get fucked anyways, because fuck Capitalism.

An ideal solution would be a repeal of federal minimum wage and a new law or amendment that dictates that states/local areas need to have a minimum wage pegged to some sorta cost of living index so that everyone in every area makes what they need at the bare minimum.

An ideal solution would be democracy in every business in America.

This is really low effort tbh, like c'mon you could at least try to argue from a realistic standpoint.

[Genivaria]

The argument of 'not all businesses could afford to pay a living wage' is I think a fair argument, wouldn't it be nice if unions were empowered to negotiate so that a national minimum wage wasn't necessary?
Too bad about all that union busting.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

>Ocasio-Cortez isn't intelligent
>Graduated cum laude ("with honors" for you heathen non-Latinates out there, AKA in the top 30-25% of her entire graduating class) from Boston University with a Bachelor's degree in international relations and economics after five years of study

I'm impressed by this lack of intelligence possessed by Ocasio-Cortez, truly. I really am. Do tell us more about how stupid somebody with five years of advanced education really is, oh Great One.

Support of nationwide $15 minimum wage shows she isn't exactly a stellar economic mind tbh

$15 minimum wage would devalue my job greatly.