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Postby Clarissa the Happy and Cheerful Robot » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:40 pm

On additional note, I really love it when we can unite together against a common enemy. I hope we can do the same with eliminating cancer, or at least slow it down.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:43 pm

Sounds promising, hopefully this leads to a full fledge cure and vaccine for HIV so we can eradicate this shitty disease.

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Postby Sicaris » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:44 pm

Kaystein wrote:inb4 big pharma corporations suppress the mass production of any HIV cure because it hurts their profit margins.


muh big pharma

Anyways, no, they can’t do that. I believe Farn already said it, but it’s a surgical procedure, not a drug.

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The Federated Soviets of North America wrote:mmm can't wait until someone starts charging prohibitively expensive prices for it


As it is a surgical procedure, as I understand it, unless a pharmaceutical trademarks it (which I doubt they can do), I don’t think they can go too high on the price. Not that they wouldn’t try in some places, but still.


No, you can’t trademark a surgical procedure. Even trying to, in any way, would have your case instantly defeated and you turned into a laughing stock. Imagine the Fine Bros trying to copyright react videos, but with a company and it being 10x worse and larger in magnitude.
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Postby Sicaris » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:46 pm

Clarissa the Happy and Cheerful Robot wrote:On additional note, I really love it when we can unite together against a common enemy. I hope we can do the same with eliminating cancer, or at least slow it down.


A cure for cancer would be a...complicated matter. You would essentially have to stop cell mutation as a whole, which would be extremely hard and would probably stunt human evolution.
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Postby Clarissa the Happy and Cheerful Robot » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:49 pm

Sicaris wrote:
Clarissa the Happy and Cheerful Robot wrote:On additional note, I really love it when we can unite together against a common enemy. I hope we can do the same with eliminating cancer, or at least slow it down.


A cure for cancer would be a...complicated matter. You would essentially have to stop cell mutation as a whole, which would be extremely hard and would probably stunt human evolution.


True, true... still won't stop people from doing the whole "There's a cure that the Big Pharma doesn't want you to know!"

Anyway, going back to the topic, yeah, since it's a procedure, I really just hope that no big corporations will patent or take over the procedure as something only they can perform.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:49 pm

Sicaris wrote:
Clarissa the Happy and Cheerful Robot wrote:On additional note, I really love it when we can unite together against a common enemy. I hope we can do the same with eliminating cancer, or at least slow it down.


A cure for cancer would be a...complicated matter. You would essentially have to stop cell mutation as a whole, which would be extremely hard and would probably stunt human evolution.

I don't know about that. You couldn't necessarily find a vaccine against cancer but once it starts and is discovered, a treatment to knock out the tumors would be an excellent find.
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Postby Jebslund » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:52 pm

Wutangvitaz wrote:I wish it was true and they make it as available as https://www.pharmaciegenerique.fr is. Sex needs are covered with 0.6c pills, but if you want to survive, you have to sell your house and maybe kids, to be sure. This is just ridiculous if you ask me. People have rights to live and this is their direct violation, if you ask me.

Problem is, people are stupid, assume too much good in corporations, and swallow the corporate BS of, "If I made it affordable, I'd be put out of business and STARVE!" without even seasoning it.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:55 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:"War declared against HIV, literally everybody rejoicing!"

Well almost everyone. WBC would be pissed
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Postby Andsed » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:56 pm

Jebslund wrote:
Wutangvitaz wrote:I wish it was true and they make it as available as https://www.pharmaciegenerique.fr is. Sex needs are covered with 0.6c pills, but if you want to survive, you have to sell your house and maybe kids, to be sure. This is just ridiculous if you ask me. People have rights to live and this is their direct violation, if you ask me.

Problem is, people are stupid, assume too much good in corporations, and swallow the corporate BS of, "If I made it affordable, I'd be put out of business and STARVE!" without even seasoning it.

This is not a drug it’s a surgical procedure which can’t be copyrighted so I don’t see any real reason to worry about that or it’s price.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:01 pm

Certainly good, but unfortunately at this point it the sources say it is not something that can be easily used to cure large numbers. It is a complicated and risky procedure that only works in certain cases.
A step in the right direction but needs a lot more.

Hopefully they can somehow create a drug that has the same effect but can be mass produced and distributed.
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Postby Kaystein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:01 pm

Farnhamia wrote:This isn't a drug, it's a surgical procedure, a stem cell transplant. Read the OP, please.


Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe.

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:02 pm

Kaystein wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:This isn't a drug, it's a surgical procedure, a stem cell transplant.


Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe.

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.

And how are they going to do that exactly?
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Postby Sicaris » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:03 pm

Kaystein wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:This isn't a drug, it's a surgical procedure, a stem cell transplant.


Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe.

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.


What.

“The fat cats who might suppress the surgical procedure”.

Pretty sure that’s illegal buckeroo.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:04 pm

Kaystein wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:This isn't a drug, it's a surgical procedure, a stem cell transplant.[/color] Read the OP, please.


Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe. [/color]

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.

Exactly how would that work?

And please for the love of all that is good and holy don’t use that fucking font color!!
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:07 pm

Sicaris wrote:
Kaystein wrote:
Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe.

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.


What.

“The fat cats who might suppress the surgical procedure”.

Pretty sure that’s illegal buckeroo.

I’m beginning to get some conspiracyish vibes from them
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:07 pm

Bombadil wrote:How dare humans try to cure God's punishment for being gay..

Is what the WBC would say
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Postby Clarissa the Happy and Cheerful Robot » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:08 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kaystein wrote:
Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe. [/color]

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.

Exactly how would that work?

And please for the love of all that is good and holy don’t use that fucking font color!!


I'm not very sure if you can patent a procedure, out of all things, but... remember, if there's money to be make, greed knows no bounds. :P

I'm being too pessimistic, I apologise as well. I think for now, I will take the good news and hope that it will be offered for affordable prices.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:08 pm

Bombadil wrote:How dare humans try to cure God's punishment for being gay..

What is sad is that there is some out there like the Westboro Baptist Church that actually believe that.
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Postby Kaystein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:10 pm

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Kaystein wrote:
Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe.

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.

And how are they going to do that exactly?
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Kaystein wrote:
Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe.

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.


What.

“The fat cats who might suppress the surgical procedure”.

Pretty sure that’s illegal buckeroo.


Okay, I see that some people are lost. Allow me to explain.

Obviously, big pharmaceutical companies don't have the best reputation. Some CEOs and other people let their greed take priority over their responsibility to provide necessary medical resources to those that need them. No google search needed there.

Anyway, don't take my last post seriously. It's a satirical reference to Big Pharma conspiracy theories. I was alluding to the one conspiracy theory which claims that pharmaceutical companies are suppressing a cure for cancer. Which has been proven untrue.

I don't believe the theory myself, and I personally welcome the news of a possible HIV cure. Our world will be a better place for it.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:13 pm

Kaystein wrote:
Andsed wrote:And how are they going to do that exactly?
Sicaris wrote:
What.

“The fat cats who might suppress the surgical procedure”.

Pretty sure that’s illegal buckeroo.


Okay, I see that some people are lost. Allow me to explain.

Obviously, big pharmaceutical companies don't have the best reputation. Some CEOs and other people let their greed take priority over their responsibility to provide necessary medical resources to those that need them. No google search needed there.

While I guess it's been a while, don't take my post too seriously. It's a satirical reference to Big Pharma conspiracy theories. I was alluding ato the one conspiracy theory which claims that pharmaceutical companies are suppressing a cure for cancer. Which has been proven untrue.

I don't believe the theory myself, and I personally welcome the news of a possible HIV cure. Our world will be a better place for it.

But a pharmaceutical is a drug. This alleged cure isn’t a drug but a surgical procedure so pharmaceutical companies wouldn’t be involved
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Postby Andsed » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:13 pm

Kaystein wrote:
Andsed wrote:And how are they going to do that exactly?
Sicaris wrote:
What.

“The fat cats who might suppress the surgical procedure”.

Pretty sure that’s illegal buckeroo.


Okay, I see that some people are lost. Allow me to explain.

Obviously, big pharmaceutical companies don't have the best reputation. Some CEOs and other people let their greed take priority over their responsibility to provide necessary medical resources to those that need them. No google search needed there.

Anyway, don't take my post too seriously. It's a satirical reference to Big Pharma conspiracy theories. I was alluding ato the one conspiracy theory which claims that pharmaceutical companies are suppressing a cure for cancer. Which has been proven untrue.

I don't believe the theory myself, and I personally welcome the news of a possible HIV cure. Our world will be a better place for it.

Oh well it’s looks like I misread that post. Sorry about that. :p
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Postby Kaystein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kaystein wrote:
Okay, I see that some people are lost. Allow me to explain.

Obviously, big pharmaceutical companies don't have the best reputation. Some CEOs and other people let their greed take priority over their responsibility to provide necessary medical resources to those that need them. No google search needed there.

While I guess it's been a while, don't take my post too seriously. It's a satirical reference to Big Pharma conspiracy theories. I was alluding ato the one conspiracy theory which claims that pharmaceutical companies are suppressing a cure for cancer. Which has been proven untrue.

I don't believe the theory myself, and I personally welcome the news of a possible HIV cure. Our world will be a better place for it.

But a pharmaceutical is a drug. This alleged cure isn’t a drug but a surgical procedure so pharmaceutical companies wouldn’t be involved


I never specified exactly what was being suppressed. Just a "cure" for something. I assumed that would be a vague enough word to use. What do you think would have been a better term instead? Not "surgical procedure" or "drug". An umbrella term is what I'm talking about. Telegram me about it. I don't want to derail this thread anymore with discussions about my fail.

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Postby Jebslund » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:19 pm

Andsed wrote:
Jebslund wrote:Problem is, people are stupid, assume too much good in corporations, and swallow the corporate BS of, "If I made it affordable, I'd be put out of business and STARVE!" without even seasoning it.

This is not a drug it’s a surgical procedure which can’t be copyrighted so I don’t see any real reason to worry about that or it’s price.

Gentle reminder hospitals in the US are corporations. 5 minutes with a doctor in the ER can cost $250 and the hospital can bill it in a way that avoids the insurance copay/limitation of the cost of an ER visit.
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Kaystein wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:This isn't a drug, it's a surgical procedure, a stem cell transplant. Read the OP, please.


Tell that to the fat cats that might suppress the surgical procedure anyway to keep their wallet safe.

More seriously, I mean no disrespect to the OP or anybody else offended if I messed up on that detail. I apologize anyway.

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