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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:57 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Liriena wrote:[laughs in literally thousands of Youtube videos of anti-SJWs screaming incoherently and proclaiming the downfall of Western civilization because someone on Buzzfeed said 'white privilege' or something]

They usually don't scream, just criticize.

I don’t think anybody takes Buzzfeed’s news seriously, if they’re actually screaming, it’s probably a sarcastic impression of the people they’re criticizing

Anyways back on topic, the N word is used widely in rap, so banning it would make, I’m guessing well over a third of American rap songs illegal, basically destroying the business of many record labels over a silly word
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:58 am

Brittany Normandy Aquitaine wrote:
Liriena wrote:I generally assume that someone who randomly uses the n word in an online forum is (a) white, (b) male (c) probably a teenager and (d) subscribes to PewDiePie.


Ahh yes another victim of the media, Pewdiepie isn't a racist btw, hes just a youtuber doing his thing and has been hit hard by media because they simply don't like him.

Of course! After all, promoting anti-semitic youtube channels and screaming the n word is just gamer culture. #GAMERSRISEUP #fuckyouchadandveronicayouwhore
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:58 am

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Because nothing else can prove how smart and intelligent and critical a person is than going onto an online thread about how the N word is bad and racist and screaming it over and over again to strangers. The amount of sophistication of thought that is required in that intellectual exercise, not to mention how productively it contributes to this discussion, is simply too profound for most of us to comprehend or grasp.

You are weirdly aggressive about me dunking on people for using the n word.


I guess I was just shocked at the number of people who started saying it in this thread like it's some strange intellectual revelation. Maybe I should have dialled it back a bit?

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:59 am

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Liriena wrote:You are weirdly aggressive about me dunking on people for using the n word.

OK 99 year old who still uses the phrase "dunking on"


I agree, modern Enlgish is too old and should be supplanted by a newer language, like Esperanto.

Gotta keep it hip.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:59 am

Youve been Gnomed wrote:
Liriena wrote:You are weirdly aggressive about me dunking on people for using the n word.

OK 99 year old who still uses the phrase "dunking on"

One more year and I can get my trollface privileges reinstated :3
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:00 am

Valrifell wrote:
Youve been Gnomed wrote:OK 99 year old who still uses the phrase "dunking on"


I agree, modern Enlgish is too old and should be supplanted by a newer language, like Esperanto.

Gotta keep it hip.

Esperanto is pretty rad but have you heard of the immortal science of Volapük?
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:00 am

Valrifell wrote:
Youve been Gnomed wrote:OK 99 year old who still uses the phrase "dunking on"


I agree, modern Enlgish is too old and should be supplanted by a newer language, like Esperanto.

Gotta keep it hip.


Esperanto is a silly language. Sildarin on the other hand has extreme grace and should be used.
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:00 am

Liriena wrote:
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Careful. Assuming everybody here is of white skin color carries racial demeaning.

I generally assume that someone who randomly uses the n word in an online forum is (a) white, (b) male (c) probably a teenager and (d) subscribes to PewDiePie.


Yeah pretty much. I dunno what they're going for but I can't help picture some scrawny little twerp surrounded by crusty socks and acne cream.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:00 am

Uxupox wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I agree, modern Enlgish is too old and should be supplanted by a newer language, like Esperanto.

Gotta keep it hip.


Esperanto is a silly language. Sildarin on the other hand has extreme grace and should be used.

Is there an n word in Sindarin?
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Postby Cetacea » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:03 am

Nerds is an offensive term that serves to demean an entire group based stereotypes, it is divisive and unlike Geek has not been reclaimed as self identifying badge or term of endearment

NO NERDS!!!

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Postby The Palmetto » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:04 am

Liriena wrote:
Brittany Normandy Aquitaine wrote:
Ahh yes another victim of the media, Pewdiepie isn't a racist btw, hes just a youtuber doing his thing and has been hit hard by media because they simply don't like him.

Of course! After all, promoting anti-semitic youtube channels and screaming the n word is just gamer culture. #GAMERSRISEUP #fuckyouchadandveronicayouwhore


First Veronica took the kids, and now she's trying to take the n word from me. This is the first step of gamer genocide. The n word is the only way we can protect ourselves from the tyrannical feminazi government!

All jokes aside, I don't think anyone wants to ban the n-word. It should really be a context thing, IMO. If an edgelord makes a joke with the n word they'll be regarded as unfunny, but it's not the end of the world. Likewise if someone just uses it to refer to a friend, not an issue. Using it to insult or degrade people, though, should be considered socially unacceptable. Honestly the issue is talked about too much in the media considering issues such as the military industrial complex and the death of our environment, but it's not like any political discussions are ever meaningful
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:04 am

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:I decided we might want to talk about a prevalent subject: the n word.

People have differing opinions. Some think saying the n word is fine, a few think it should be banned. It is included in America's freedom of speech, but it can be regarded as hate speech. Should it be legal? Should there be government given n word passes? How much should the government discourage saying it?

I believe it should be legal but people shouldn't say it. What does NSG have to say about this?

Please don't say the n word here.


Nigger.

You dont get tell us what words to use.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:05 am

Liriena wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Esperanto is a silly language. Sildarin on the other hand has extreme grace and should be used.

Is there an n word in Sindarin?


Idk. Black men don’t exist in Middle Earth.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:05 am

Cetacea wrote:Nerds is an offensive term that serves to demean an entire group based stereotypes, it is divisive and unlike Geek has not been reclaimed as self identifying badge or term of endearment

NO NERDS!!!

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:06 am

Cetacea wrote:Nerds is an offensive term that serves to demean an entire group based stereotypes, it is divisive and unlike Geek has not been reclaimed as self identifying badge or term of endearment

NO NERDS!!!


Nerd, geek, dork have all been reclaimed after the aforementioned groups ended up with the big bucks during and after the dot com bubble.

The n-word and the f noun may have been partially reclaimed by the groups they were formally used against, but that doesn't exactly make it okay for people outside the group to use it.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:06 am

This is so stupid.

Can we get 100 comments?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:06 am

Uxupox wrote:
Liriena wrote:Is there an n word in Sindarin?


Idk. Black men don’t exist in Middle Earth.

inb4 JK Rowling says that Frodo was black all along
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Postby Godular » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:08 am

My only context for learning the N-word was Blazing Saddles, and my 5 year old mind honestly thought it meant 'railroad worker'.

Man did Mom ream me a new one when I said it. And MAN did that confuse the hell outta me.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:08 am

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:This is so stupid.

Can we get 100 comments?


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Postby Godular » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:10 am

Liriena wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Esperanto is a silly language. Sildarin on the other hand has extreme grace and should be used.

Is there an n word in Sindarin?


Come to think of it... were there any black people in the Lord Of The Rings movies at all? Or hispanic? Or anything?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:12 am

Godular wrote:
Liriena wrote:Is there an n word in Sindarin?


Come to think of it... were there any black people in the Lord Of The Rings movies at all? Or hispanic? Or anything?


Yes. The nonwhite nonorcs were under the influence of the Dark Lord in a rather infamous bout of unfortunate coding.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:14 am

Uxupox wrote:
Liriena wrote:Is there an n word in Sindarin?


Idk. Black men don’t exist in Middle Earth.

Middle Earth is fiction in and of itself, so it does not really matter.

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:15 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Idk. Black men don’t exist in Middle Earth.

Middle Earth is fiction in and of itself, so it does not really matter.


Respectfully disagree but this tangent has gone on long enough
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:16 am

Lol this thread is my fault but it’s funny in its own right
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The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

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Postby Andsed » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:20 am

I think context matters alot with n word. It is undoubtedly a racial slur and you should not be going saying it lightly but acting like saying it makes you automatically racist is a mistake. If your going shouting things like "fuck you n word" then yeah your a racist as your using it to insult black people. But if you say just blurt it out when your pissed at a game or something well I would say it would dumb and wrong of you to say it but your not necessarily racist.
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