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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:33 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Scomagia wrote:In any context?

I suppose I should clarify that in direct quotes from others and historical discussions, it may be appropriate to use the term (at least to initially clarify what one is referring to by "the n-word" or their euphemism of choice).

And if someone finds using the euphemisms stupid and prefers to use the word 'nigger' itself when discussing the word?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:36 pm

Narduo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What?

P r e c i s e l y.

What? And why do you think I'm one of "you"?

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:39 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I suppose I should clarify that in direct quotes from others and historical discussions, it may be appropriate to use the term (at least to initially clarify what one is referring to by "the n-word" or their euphemism of choice).

And if someone finds using the euphemisms stupid and prefers to use the word 'nigger' itself when discussing the word?
Not necessarily racist, but it's unnecessarily controversial.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:41 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Scomagia wrote:And if someone finds using the euphemisms stupid and prefers to use the word 'nigger' itself when discussing the word?
Not necessarily racist, but it's unnecessarily controversial.

But why should it be controversial in that context?
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:42 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Not necessarily racist, but it's unnecessarily controversial.

But why should it be controversial in that context?

Are you serious? Because it's using an almost universally recognized racial slur that has been a symbol of subjugation of black people for centuries, when another word would do.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:36 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Scomagia wrote:But why should it be controversial in that context?

Are you serious? Because it's using an almost universally recognized racial slur that has been a symbol of subjugation of black people for centuries, when another word would do.

That's why it's offensive to use against others. That doesn't explain why it should be offensive in the context I gave. No one says "the k-word" when discussing the word 'kike', for instance. It's weird to use a euphemism for a word when you're talking about that word.
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Postby Narduo » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:15 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Narduo wrote:P r e c i s e l y.

What? And why do you think I'm one of "you"?

Because, Brother Ifreann, I have introduced the seed of Nuance to ye.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:16 pm

Don't call a person the word "nigger" or any other slur. Quoting it for historical context should be fine though.

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Postby Bardarus » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:59 am

Well the N word is considered a racial slur in the Western world So I don't suggest using it.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:46 am

Narduo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What? And why do you think I'm one of "you"?

Because, Brother Ifreann, I have introduced the seed of Nuance to ye.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:08 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Are you serious? Because it's using an almost universally recognized racial slur that has been a symbol of subjugation of black people for centuries, when another word would do.

That's why it's offensive to use against others. That doesn't explain why it should be offensive in the context I gave. No one says "the k-word" when discussing the word 'kike', for instance. It's weird to use a euphemism for a word when you're talking about that word.

I haven't heard the word 'kike' discussed at all, frankly. The fact is that they're using a racial slur when a euphemism would do, and it's very possible that members of the group targeted could take offense to that or at the least consider it uncouth. But honestly, I can't speak for black people.
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Postby Valkea » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:11 pm

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:13 pm

I’m surprised this hasn’t been locked yet
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Postby The African Emirates » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:53 pm

My nation is the most powerful of them all because my entire populace can say the n-word.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:55 pm

The African Emirates wrote:My nation is the most powerful of them all because my entire populace can say the n-word.

I’m going to have to put an embargo on n word passes.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby The African Emirates » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:07 pm

I'll flood the market.
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and traveling around the omniverse through F O L D S P A C E !
And yeah. Forcibly assimilating civilizations. That too.
We are neither African nor an Emirate, surrender your neural patterns.
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Current Year: haha made ya look C.E.
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