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Postby Eglaecia » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:02 am

Should be legal absolutely. Shouldn't be acceptable for non-black people to say it casually or more obviously, maliciously. Don't care if black people say it.

For non-blacks, there should be less of a stigma around it when they're singing along to songs by black artists that use it, though I personally avoid saying it even when singing along.
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Postby Cafleanga » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:29 am

I think it should be legal, but anyone who's not black and freely says it needs to know that it's also legal for people to criticize them for saying it in the first place, lol
Like honestly? the stigma around it is totally justified

I personally wouldn't say it just bc I'd feel rlly bad about it and I just don't want to, lol
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Postby Calbexia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:31 am

Saiwania wrote:You wouldn't use it unless you're being malicious towards a Black person and in addition, it's just rude.

Context is everything.

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Postby The East India Trade Federation » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:34 am

Sure, it should be legal. Doesn't mean I have to like or be friends with people who say it.

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Postby Lanorth » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:35 am

You can say the N-Word as long as it is not directed at anyone...
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:40 am

The 1st amendment gives you the right to say the N word to your heart's content, but it also gives others the right to tell you to shut up. Freedom of speech cuts both ways.

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Postby Yekisoma » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:44 am

In the intrest of those of African decent the N-word shall be used only if the speak is of decent from an african nation if not said person shall be shot on sight without a proper pass.

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Postby New Bremerton » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:46 am

Apparently, the mods over at moderation have no problem using the word themselves in reference to this thread, which would suggest to me that it is more or less acceptable to write it in certain contexts, such as this thread. Fine. I'll say it here. Nigger.
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Postby Calbexia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:52 am

New Bremerton wrote:Apparently, the mods over at moderation have no problem using the word themselves in reference to this thread, which would suggest to me that it is more or less acceptable to write it in certain contexts, such as this thread. Fine. I'll say it here. Nigger.

It's all about the context you say it in and more importantly your intention in saying it. Saying nigger just to say it, quoting someone who said nigger or even just black people saying it are usually fine as long as you don't go around calling people dirty niggers.

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Postby New Bremerton » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:03 pm

Calbexia wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:Apparently, the mods over at moderation have no problem using the word themselves in reference to this thread, which would suggest to me that it is more or less acceptable to write it in certain contexts, such as this thread. Fine. I'll say it here. Nigger.

It's all about the context you say it in and more importantly your intention in saying it. Saying nigger just to say it, quoting someone who said nigger or even just black people saying it are usually fine as long as you don't go around calling people dirty niggers.


Agreed. I realize my refusing to say or write nigger in private or in this thread was a bit anal-retentive of me. I just don't want to get into trouble. It's what Maajid Nawaz would call the Voldemort effect. But in the interests of improving race relations in America and elsewhere, it would be even better if no one said it, including black people. I have explained my reasoning earlier in this thread.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:16 pm

In the US when white people say the N word it reminds me of those shirtless feminists who have "I'm not asking for it" painted on their tits. They aren't asking to have the shit kicked out of them and lose their jobs anymore than those women are asking for sexual assault. Yet they are massively increasing the odds of it happening if done around certain people, in certain areas, at certain times. Although it is not an excuse it is a correlation.

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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:33 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:In the US when white people say the N word it reminds me of those shirtless feminists who have "I'm not asking for it" painted on their tits. They aren't asking to have the shit kicked out of them and lose their jobs anymore than those women are asking for sexual assault. Yet they are massively increasing the odds of it happening if done around certain people, in certain areas, at certain times. Although it is not an excuse it is a correlation.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should.

Anyone who has so little impulse control that they'd assault someone for using a naughty word should be promptly removed from society for a while. They're more of a menace than some jerkass looking to offend.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:14 pm

Scomagia wrote:Anyone who has so little impulse control that they'd assault someone for using a naughty word should be promptly removed from society for a while. They're more of a menace than some jerkass looking to offend.


As you litterally quoted me

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Although it is not an excuse it is a correlation.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:15 pm

Who cares if people use crass language.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:17 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Anyone who has so little impulse control that they'd assault someone for using a naughty word should be promptly removed from society for a while. They're more of a menace than some jerkass looking to offend.


As you litterally quoted me

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Although it is not an excuse it is a correlation.

I know that you weren't saying it's an excuse. I was just pointing out that someone beating another person for saying nigger is much worse than saying nigger, even if it's a shitty thing to say.
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Postby Narduo » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:20 pm

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:21 pm

It should be legal by default, but I would consider it absolutely inappropriate for someone of any race to use the term. Using it to harass someone would constitute verbal harassment in my book, which should not be legal (jail time is perhaps excessive for first or infrequent offenders).
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:23 pm

Cekoviu wrote:It should be legal by default, but I would consider it absolutely inappropriate for someone of any race to use the term. Using it to harass someone would constitute verbal harassment in my book, which should not be legal (jail time is perhaps excessive for first or infrequent offenders).

In any context?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:23 pm

Narduo wrote:
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There's only one G in Nigeria.

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Postby Narduo » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:There's only one G in Nigeria.

Don't tell'em now
We were just getting to the good part.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:26 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It should be legal by default, but I would consider it absolutely inappropriate for someone of any race to use the term. Using it to harass someone would constitute verbal harassment in my book, which should not be legal (jail time is perhaps excessive for first or infrequent offenders).

In any context?

I suppose I should clarify that in direct quotes from others and historical discussions, it may be appropriate to use the term (at least to initially clarify what one is referring to by "the n-word" or their euphemism of choice).
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Postby Parcia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:27 pm

Nigger. Nigga. Negro. El Negro/Negra.


its a word, it has a meaning, a meaning many take offense to, but that's because they choose to.


I have had people call me "Half Blood (I am mixed), Spik, wet back" To my face, and I don't take offense.

It worries me, sometimes, how badly we get tilted over a simple set of words.
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Postby Narduo » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:28 pm

Parcia wrote:Nigger. Nigga. Negro. El Negro/Negra.


its a word, it has a meaning, a meaning many take offense to, but that's because they choose to.


I have had people call me "Half Blood (I am mixed), Spik, wet back" To my face, and I don't take offense.

It worries me, sometimes, how badly we get tilted over a simple set of words.

Speaking of Halfings...

Has anyone ever called you a Hobbit?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:28 pm

Narduo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:There's only one G in Nigeria.

Don't tell'em now
We were just getting to the good part.

What?

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Postby Narduo » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:What?

P r e c i s e l y.
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