On the n word

[New haven america]

There is no loophole tho, it's just a fact that it's possible to say the n word without being a racist, as you prove below.

But why do you want to say the word so bad? What are you looking for, exactly?

There is no black community though.

Now, watch as you refer to them as a community-

If one group of people can use the n word there's no reason the rest can't. If they have a problem with it being used by another group of people then they themselves should stop using it too. The very fact they continue to do so is just evidence that it isn't inherently racist.

Again, this isn't settle within whatever term it is you want to us for black people in America...and if you use the one in question, the history of its usage comes with it. Sorry, it's how words work. "Oh no, words change...we use to call a group of twigs-" Stop. They don't change with a blink of your eyes like a genie where you say 'it's not racist now.' The whole idea of 'reclaiming the word' is related to its racist history and the fact that it makes you uncomfortable in your shorts area for them to use it is the point. Meaning it's going to have a different connotation being used by 'them' and 'you.'

Well he has a point; either everybody can use it or nobody can.

You can use the word, and it will have exactly the affect you want it to. Because there's really only one reason for you to want to use it. So what are you upset about?

Never heard a single NWA song let alone quoted any :\

So you have even less reason to complain.

You sure are trying to run to home with my flag as if it has anything to do with my position on the N-word.

Doesn't it, though? I mean, if it weren't undermining your point, would you have changed it?

You do realize that there are a lot of black people in the US who laugh at the idea that only black people could or should use Nigger/Nigga, right? Lot of them even lived through the Civil Rights Movement.

They believe this because the idea of trying to reclaim the word isn't going to do anything and will continue to paint black people as lesser by society as they keep using a derogatory term to describe themselves... and some could argue that they're being proven right with the rates of violence and police violence black people tend to experience. Despite how you make it out to be, not even black people in America as a group have come to even a general consensus about how the word should be used, if it should be even used at all.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

But why do you want to say the word so bad? What are you looking for, exactly?

Now, watch as you refer to them as a community-

Again, this isn't settle within whatever term it is you want to us for black people in America...and if you use the one in question, the history of its usage comes with it. Sorry, it's how words work. "Oh no, words change...we use to call a group of twigs-" Stop. They don't change with a blink of your eyes like a genie where you say 'it's not racist now.' The whole idea of 'reclaiming the word' is related to its racist history and the fact that it makes you uncomfortable in your shorts area for them to use it is the point. Meaning it's going to have a different connotation being used by 'them' and 'you.'

You can use the word, and it will have exactly the affect you want it to. Because there's really only one reason for you to want to use it. So what are you upset about?

So you have even less reason to complain.

Doesn't it, though? I mean, if it weren't undermining your point, would you have changed it?

You do realize that there are a lot of black people in the US who laugh at the idea that only black people could or should use Nigger/Nigga, right? Lot of them even lived through the Civil Rights Movement.

I didn't need you or Cannot Think of a Name to tell me that, and those people have a point.

They believe this because the idea of trying to reclaim the word isn't going to do anything and will continue to paint black people as lesser by society as they keep using a derogatory term to describe themselves... and some could argue that they're being proven right with the rates of violence and police violence black people tend to experience. Despite how you make it out to be, not even black people in America as a group have come to even a general consensus about how the word should be used, if it should be even used at all.

That's not how I make it out to be though. There are people both black and white who insist black people have N word privileges; I dispute that in both directions.

[Saint Arsenio]

It's gotta stop being racist at some point if they want to reclaim the word, and seeing as "they" are already using it in day-to-day language then I don't see why we can't use it in the same context.

This is another reason why people think it's okay to use this word. This is just like saying "Hey, so-and-so got away with murder, so I don't see why I can't get away with it..." It's people that think that just because someone else does it, they can do it too. Therefore, the cycle continues. It only takes a little decency to see that using this word, no matter what your race or ethnicity is, is wrong.

[New haven america]

You do realize that there are a lot of black people in the US who laugh at the idea that only black people could or should use Nigger/Nigga, right? Lot of them even lived through the Civil Rights Movement.

I didn't need you or Cannot Think of a Name to tell me that, and those people have a point.

They believe this because the idea of trying to reclaim the word isn't going to do anything and will continue to paint black people as lesser by society as they keep using a derogatory term to describe themselves... and some could argue that they're being proven right with the rates of violence and police violence black people tend to experience. Despite how you make it out to be, not even black people in America as a group have come to even a general consensus about how the word should be used, if it should be even used at all.

That's not how I make it out to be though. There are people both black and white who insist black people have N word privileges; I dispute that in both directions.

Was I quoting you?

[Scomagia]

No, it isn't. It's perfectly acceptable to use the word nigger for explanatory purposes or, say, in a literary context.

Why do you insist on saying the N word so much? This is the reason people think it's okay to use it on a daily basis.

I am using the word in the context of referring to the word itself, not as an adjective. It is juvenile to hide the word behind a euphemism and I won't do it. It's not a magic spell that will summon a cadre of dead klansmen. It's an awful word to use toward people but using the word when you're talking about the word is entirely neutral.

Doubtful.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I didn't need you or Cannot Think of a Name to tell me that, and those people have a point.

That's not how I make it out to be though. There are people both black and white who insist black people have N word privileges; I dispute that in both directions.

Was I quoting you?

It's like 11 pm here and I saw my name, my bad.

[Saint Arsenio]

Why do you insist on saying the N word so much? This is the reason people think it's okay to use it on a daily basis.

I am using the word in the context of referring to the word itself, not as an adjective. It is juvenile to hide the word behind a euphemism and I won't do it. It's not a magic spell that will summon a cadre of dead klansmen. It's an awful word to use toward people but using the word when you're talking about the word is entirely neutral.

Doubtful.

There was no need it actually saying the word. Just like everybody else, you can say "N."

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I am using the word in the context of referring to the word itself, not as an adjective. It is juvenile to hide the word behind a euphemism and I won't do it. It's not a magic spell that will summon a cadre of dead klansmen. It's an awful word to use toward people but using the word when you're talking about the word is entirely neutral.

Doubtful.

There was no need it actually saying the word. Just like everybody else, you can say "N."

TBF there's no reason not to say it in this context either, other than not wanting to see "nigger" over and over and over again until we all get demonetized somehow.

[New haven america]

I am using the word in the context of referring to the word itself, not as an adjective. It is juvenile to hide the word behind a euphemism and I won't do it. It's not a magic spell that will summon a cadre of dead klansmen. It's an awful word to use toward people but using the word when you're talking about the word is entirely neutral.

Doubtful.

There was no need it actually saying the word. Just like everybody else, you can say "N."

Nigger, kaffir, honkey, afro-saxon, white trash, cholo, greaseball, gook, chink, slit eyes... need I go on?

Words only have as much power as is given to them. If you're looking at them in a neutral light, then it's not offensive.

[Saint Arsenio]

There was no need it actually saying the word. Just like everybody else, you can say "N."

TBF there's no reason not to say it in this context either, other than not wanting to see "nigger" over and over and over again until we all get demonetized somehow.

There's no reason not to say it? I'm sorry, but why would you want to continuously say the "N" word? There is no reason TO say it.

[Saint Arsenio]

There was no need it actually saying the word. Just like everybody else, you can say "N."

Nigger, kaffir, honkey, afro-saxon, white trash, cholo, greaseball, gook, chink, slit eyes... need I go on?

Words only have as much power as is given to them. If you're looking at them in a neutral light, then it's not offensive.

It's not offensive. It's the fact that people insist on saying the word, when there really is no point in using it.

[New haven america]

Nigger, kaffir, honkey, afro-saxon, white trash, cholo, greaseball, gook, chink, slit eyes... need I go on?

Words only have as much power as is given to them. If you're looking at them in a neutral light, then it's not offensive.

It's not offensive. It's the fact that people insist on saying the word, when there really is no point in using it.

There is a point in using it because we're discussing it and discussing why people think/don't think only certain groups can use it. Or why people should or shouldn't use I at all.

[New haven america]

Was I quoting you?

It's like 11 pm here and I saw my name, my bad.

KK.

[Scomagia]

I am using the word in the context of referring to the word itself, not as an adjective. It is juvenile to hide the word behind a euphemism and I won't do it. It's not a magic spell that will summon a cadre of dead klansmen. It's an awful word to use toward people but using the word when you're talking about the word is entirely neutral.

Doubtful.

There was no need it actually saying the word. Just like everybody else, you can say "N."

I honestly don't care what you believe. I will use the word nigger as appropriate to discuss the word itself. If that offends you then that is unfortunate.

[Saint Arsenio]

It's not offensive. It's the fact that people insist on saying the word, when there really is no point in using it.

There is a point in using it because we're discussing it and discussing why people think/don't think only certain groups can use it. Or why people should or shouldn't use I at all.

I understand that we're discussing, and all, but still. I see no need to repeatedly say it over and over again. Look at how many people on this thread have discussed, without using the word.

[Saint Arsenio]

There was no need it actually saying the word. Just like everybody else, you can say "N."

I honestly don't care what you believe. I will use the word nigger as appropriate to discuss the word itself. If that offends you then that is unfortunate.

I never said that you had to care what I believe, I won't lose any sleep at night. Nor did I say that you couldn't use the "N" word. All I said was that it should automatically be human decency to not repeatedly continue to say it. It is however, getting to the point where I don't think you're using it to discuss anymore, but rather to annoy me.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

TBF there's no reason not to say it in this context either, other than not wanting to see "nigger" over and over and over again until we all get demonetized somehow.

There's no reason not to say it?

other than not wanting to see "nigger" over and over and over again until we all get demonetized somehow.

There is no reason TO say it.

There is one though: because it's the exact word we're talking about and we understand that it's not being used in a derogatory manner when used in this thread.

[Ayytaly]

I don't get why the N-word (itself a corruption of the word "negro") is so taboo when used by non-blacks, yet FedEx Field can fill up with black (and white) Redskins fans, with all of them making a mockery of Native American people and their culture, while the team itself is owned by a Jewish guy reaping the xenophobic dollars. These are the same people whom glamorized racism by enhancing the negative stereotype of blacks through hip hop for profit and pop culture exposure, but feel absolutely offended if some random cholo in L.A. does the same, but with a Latino twist.

No wonder the #BlackLivesMatter movement is such a joke to minorities that aren't black. Fuck them and their overtly biased unilateral racism.

[Kowani]

I don't get why the N-word (itself a corruption of the word "negro") is so taboo when used by non-blacks, yet FedEx Field can fill up with black (and white) Redskins fans, with all of them making a mockery of Native American people and their culture, while the team itself is owned by a Jewish guy reaping the xenophobic dollars. These are the same people whom glamorized racism by enhancing the negative stereotype of blacks through hip hop for profit and pop culture exposure, but feel absolutely offended if some random cholo in L.A. does the same, but with a Latino twist.

No wonder the #BlackLivesMatter movement is such a joke to minorities that aren't black. Fuck them and their overtly biased unilateral racism.

Yes, because the Redskins have never faced any backlash...

[Scomagia]

I honestly don't care what you believe. I will use the word nigger as appropriate to discuss the word itself. If that offends you then that is unfortunate.

I never said that you had to care what I believe, I won't lose any sleep at night. Nor did I say that you couldn't use the "N" word. All I said was that it should automatically be human decency to not repeatedly continue to say it. It is however, getting to the point where I don't think you're using it to discuss anymore, but rather to annoy me.

I've hardly used the word, actually. 3 times, by my count. None of those uses has been to "annoy" you.

[Ayytaly]

I don't get why the N-word (itself a corruption of the word "negro") is so taboo when used by non-blacks, yet FedEx Field can fill up with black (and white) Redskins fans, with all of them making a mockery of Native American people and their culture, while the team itself is owned by a Jewish guy reaping the xenophobic dollars. These are the same people whom glamorized racism by enhancing the negative stereotype of blacks through hip hop for profit and pop culture exposure, but feel absolutely offended if some random cholo in L.A. does the same, but with a Latino twist.

No wonder the #BlackLivesMatter movement is such a joke to minorities that aren't black. Fuck them and their overtly biased unilateral racism.

Yes, because the Redskins have never faced any backlash...

The team, or the race that the team's name negatively refers to? Because I could go on in a tandem abour how there's an inmense double standard in regards to racism against blacks, racism against non-black minorities, and blacks being racist cunts. The latter two strongly apply to the media's portrayal of George Zimmerman, whom - based on my research - is part injun/indio/redskin/squaw/prairie nıggər/primitive/spearchucker (universal term for non-white hunter-gatherers)/feather, not dot/spider monkey/whatever obstentibly derogatory term was used to refer to indigenous Americans by his Quechua mother's side, and yet he was labeled as a "white Hispanic" just because Trayvon the proven thug was black. In spite of his whitewashing by the media, they still infuenced ghetto trash to racially profile and attack several Hispanics (mestizos from Mexico and Central America) in honor of Trayvon.

Speaking of the topic of racist terms, why has anyone here not make a reference to Chris Rock's 1995 standup? His sentiments are on par with mine: not all black people are nıggərs, and not all nıggərs are black people. Just look at Tekashi 69.

[Big Jim P]

I never use the word as a slur, or something to call someone. I am better than that.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

I may not be able to say the N word but at least I can say phrases like "Hey dad." and "Thanks for the warning, officer."

/joke

In all honesty, freedom of speech trumps everything

[Ayytaly]

I never use the word as a slur, or something to call someone. I am better than that.

Hand in your edgelord card, you're a fraud.

[Cannot think of a name]

But why do you want to say the word so bad? What are you looking for, exactly?

I don't recall professing an intense desire to say the n word.

No one complains about not being able to use a word they don’t want to.

Now, watch as you refer to them as a community-

Where?

Immediately after you insisted there wasn’t one. If you refer to a group as monolith and then proscribe a “if they/then they” proposition, don’t look now but you’ve referred to them as a community.

If one group of people can use the n word there's no reason the rest can't. If they have a problem with it being used by another group of people then they themselves should stop using it too. The very fact they continue to do so is just evidence that it isn't inherently racist.

Again, this isn't settle within whatever term it is you want to us for black people in America...and if you use the one in question, the history of its usage comes with it. Sorry, it's how words work. "Oh no, words change...we use to call a group of twigs-" Stop. They don't change with a blink of your eyes like a genie where you say 'it's not racist now.'

They apparently do change with skin color though.[/quote]
Welcome to the world of racial slurs.

The whole idea of 'reclaiming the word' is related to its racist history and the fact that it makes you uncomfortable in your shorts area for them to use it is the point. Meaning it's going to have a different connotation being used by 'them' and 'you.'

It's gotta stop being racist at some point if they want to reclaim the word,

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that this is something that’s being negotiated with you. It isn’t.

and seeing as "they" are already using it in day-to-day language then I don't see why we can't use it in the same context.

Seeing as the context of the word at its inception is racial, it stands to reason.

You can use the word, and it will have exactly the affect you want it to. Because there's really only one reason for you to want to use it.

That reason being demonstrating fraternal bond with peers I assume you're assuming?

Is it really? This kind of “I’m not touuuuuuuching you” feigned innocence, doesn’t really convince anyone. There are no shortage of words that provide that for you without suggesting a shared history of oppression and otherness. Why do you need this one so bad? Remember, we know what was on your flag...

So you have even less reason to complain.

How so?

You’re not even consuming the product where the word is used in the way you’d like to pretend you would. So why do you care?

Doesn't it, though?

No.

Nah, it really does. It gives away your whole bit. Sorry.

I mean, if it weren't undermining your point, would you have changed it?

Seeing as the thing I changed it to was a member of a fascist anti-terror police unit that is often associated with fascism, fashwave, and Right Wing Death Squad memes, as well as the militant space-nazis from Killzone; all of which would defeat the purpose of changing my flag from a tank nerd in front of a Confederate flag assuming my intent was to make me seem less racist...

Yes.

Mm-hmm.