UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Ostroeuropa]

By the way, in terms of newscasters on television and radio, it's

8-4 "jeremy cunts"

8 women have done it, 4 men.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/times-je ... e-9885440/

So she's full of shit too and just making shit up to blame men for something negative she did, in order to shift scrutiny from herself and vaguely lash out at men.
Typical feminist.

So i'll ask again, why is this kind of behavior normalized in our society?

[Vassenor]

Trust this thread to quickly get bored with the imminent Era of BoJo and instead argue about some video Ostro found on Reddit.

Pretty par for the course really.

[Kavagrad]

Black people onto white people, white people onto black people, natives onto immigrants, immigrants onto natives, catholics onto protestants, protestants onto catholics, christians onto muslims, muslims onto christians, liberals onto conservatives, conservatives onto liberals, religious onto atheists, atheists onto religious, and so on and so on and so on.

I'm asking for an example of the behavior above happening by a news reporter and not resulting in massive condemnation.

Like;

"Niggers, sorry, it's usually black people who use that word, not white people, dunno what came over me."

or;

"Sluts. Sorry, it's usually women who say that, not me. Didn't mean to say it."

And so on.

IS it usually men even? Do we even know?
At least the above two examples have some backing, but with this? Nothing. Just blame men to absolve yourself and move on.

Incidentally, she's an open feminist. Interesting insight into how her mind works, isn't it.

https://twitter.com/Suffragentleman/sta ... 1571475457

Because as we all know, "cunt" is a slur used entirely to attack men.

Either that's the angle you're going with, or these comparisons are utter shite.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Like some kind of neurologically caused tic or something.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDie ... _and_then/

Training your brain to deflect all negativity from womens behavior on to men and so on comes up in bizarre ways sometimes.

Oh no a woman was a twat and tried to deflect shit

Some poeple are wankers

Self-bedevilment is our modern plague, but it's good form to take evasive action when matters faecal become proximate to one's wonderwiffle.

[Vassenor]

I'm asking for an example of the behavior above happening by a news reporter and not resulting in massive condemnation.

Like;

"Niggers, sorry, it's usually black people who use that word, not white people, dunno what came over me."

or;

"Sluts. Sorry, it's usually women who say that, not me. Didn't mean to say it."

And so on.

IS it usually men even? Do we even know?
At least the above two examples have some backing, but with this? Nothing. Just blame men to absolve yourself and move on.

Incidentally, she's an open feminist. Interesting insight into how her mind works, isn't it.

https://twitter.com/Suffragentleman/sta ... 1571475457

Because as we all know, "cunt" is a slur used entirely to attack men.

Either that's the angle you're going with, or these comparisons are utter shite.

Or we're just looking for a way to turn was originally a joke about an honest Freudian slip into yet another excuse to rail on the evils of feminism and how oppressed men are.

[Ostroeuropa]

I'm asking for an example of the behavior above happening by a news reporter and not resulting in massive condemnation.

Like;

"Niggers, sorry, it's usually black people who use that word, not white people, dunno what came over me."

or;

"Sluts. Sorry, it's usually women who say that, not me. Didn't mean to say it."

And so on.

IS it usually men even? Do we even know?
At least the above two examples have some backing, but with this? Nothing. Just blame men to absolve yourself and move on.

Incidentally, she's an open feminist. Interesting insight into how her mind works, isn't it.

https://twitter.com/Suffragentleman/sta ... 1571475457

Because as we all know, "cunt" is a slur used entirely to attack men.

Either that's the angle you're going with, or these comparisons are utter shite.

Surely then you can find a comparison example that works here, if indeed this behavior isn't abnormal. I'm claiming pretty much only feminists act this way and get away with it. You could prove me wrong.

[Kavagrad]

By the way, in terms of newscasters on television and radio, it's

8-4 "jeremy cunts"

8 women have done it, 4 men.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/times-je ... e-9885440/

So she's full of shit too and just making shit up to blame men for something negative she did, in order to shift scrutiny from herself and vaguely lash out at men.
Typical feminist.

So i'll ask again, why is this kind of behavior normalized in our society?

So it's not at all possible that the incidents of this slip that she's aware of were the ones done by male broadcasters, and that this could be where her reasoning came from?

Of course not, how could I be so silly, it's clearly that evil feminist mindset. That should definitely be the conclusion we default to

[Vassenor]

By the way, in terms of newscasters on television and radio, it's

8-4 "jeremy cunts"

8 women have done it, 4 men.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/times-je ... e-9885440/

So she's full of shit too and just making shit up to blame men for something negative she did, in order to shift scrutiny from herself and vaguely lash out at men.
Typical feminist.

So i'll ask again, why is this kind of behavior normalized in our society?

So it's not at all possible that the incidents of this slip that she's aware of were the ones done by male broadcasters, and that this could be where her reasoning came from?

Of course not, how could I be so silly, it's clearly that evil feminist mindset. That should definitely be the conclusion we default to

Well yeah. Feminism is responsible for all the evils of the world, after all.

[Kavagrad]

Because as we all know, "cunt" is a slur used entirely to attack men.

Either that's the angle you're going with, or these comparisons are utter shite.

Surely then you can find a comparison example that works here, if indeed this behavior isn't abnormal. I'm claiming pretty much only feminists act this way and get away with it. You could prove me wrong.

Claims presented without evidence, and so forth.

[Souseiseki]

By the way, in terms of newscasters on television and radio, it's

8-4 "jeremy cunts"

8 women have done it, 4 men.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/times-je ... e-9885440/

So she's full of shit too and just making shit up to blame men for something negative she did, in order to shift scrutiny from herself and vaguely lash out at men.
Typical feminist.

So i'll ask again, why is this kind of behavior normalized in our society?

she probably thinks that cunt is a "misogynist slur" and that women are less likely to say it as an actual insult, so she feels the need to apologize for contributing to misogyny. idk. english people are a lot more uptight about the word cunt than scottish people are and i reject the premise that one newscaster saying it means that it is "normalized" in our society. i'm not sure what you want. i'm basically just guessing about what she said and why she said it. do you want me to write her an e-mail about how under feminist discourse both sexes are sexist against each other and thus her quip about men marginalizes misogyny through implication that it is a male thing?

Surely then you can find a comparison example that works here, if indeed this behavior isn't abnormal. I'm claiming pretty much only feminists act this way and get away with it. You could prove me wrong.

it is unreasonable to expect people to search through what is going to be literal lifetimes worth of media in order to search for examples of a very specific thing

[Ostroeuropa]

By the way, in terms of newscasters on television and radio, it's

8-4 "jeremy cunts"

8 women have done it, 4 men.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/times-je ... e-9885440/

So she's full of shit too and just making shit up to blame men for something negative she did, in order to shift scrutiny from herself and vaguely lash out at men.
Typical feminist.

So i'll ask again, why is this kind of behavior normalized in our society?

So it's not at all possible that the incidents of this slip that she's aware of were the ones done by male broadcasters, and that this could be where her reasoning came from?

Of course not, how could I be so silly, it's clearly that evil feminist mindset. That should definitely be the conclusion we default to

Part of the "evil feminist mindset" is assuming they know what they're talking about based on their personal experience so long as it conforms to their prejudices about men. When it doesn't conform, their ideology trips and they go hunting for evidence to the contrary. But here?

She just accepted it.

That's assuming it was an honest example of her simply not coming across other examples.

Another explanation is that she did come across the other examples but her brain didn't flag them as noteworthy, but when the men did it, it did flag them, because they were something that confirmed her worldview.

A third explanation is that she panicked and just lashed out at men to deflect blame from herself without actually believing what she was saying or knowing whether it was true one way or another, again, indicative of a particular kind of training her brain has gone through.

Fourth you've got a deliberate calculation to do the above.

And so on.

[The Blaatschapen]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48624579

Why is the secret ballot held in the House of Commons? This is not House business? It's internal party business?

This is actually a genuine question on the usage of the HoC.

Over here, when a parliamentary fraction has a decision on its leader, it's not being done inside the main debating hall of parliament, but rather in another meeting room inside the building (usually their own meeting place, etc.).

So I'm a bit surprised that this was done in the HoC?

[Vassenor]

Oh, are we shifting the burden of proof around again?

[The Blaatschapen]

it is unreasonable to expect people to search through what is going to be literal lifetimes worth of media in order to search for examples of a very specific thing

It's why we automate that.

Hopefully.

Someday soon

[Hurdergaryp]

Oh, are we shifting the burden of proof around again?

It's tradition and therefore inevitable.

[Ostroeuropa]

Surely then you can find a comparison example that works here, if indeed this behavior isn't abnormal. I'm claiming pretty much only feminists act this way and get away with it. You could prove me wrong.

Claims presented without evidence, and so forth.

That's not how the burden of proof works mate
You've reversed it.

I am claiming a thing is the totality, and thus far of the presented evidence, it is the totality. You're the one denying that and claiming there's some undemonstrated example that proves me wrong.

Like I've showed you a map of the world and gone "This is the world" and you've said "But there's other parts too." and I say; "Where?" and you go "Ahah! So it's not the whole world, I don't have to prove anything! I can dismiss your claim because you've provided no evidence for it!".

Learn to logic if you're going to try pulling it on someone.

Thus far, from the evidence presented, we can conclude this behavior is abnormal and only feminists have engaged in it. You could prove otherwise if that weren't true.

[Slongs]

Oh, are we shifting the burden of proof around again?

It's tradition and therefore inevitable.

Thanks Obama

[Ostroeuropa]

By the way, in terms of newscasters on television and radio, it's

8-4 "jeremy cunts"

8 women have done it, 4 men.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/times-je ... e-9885440/

So she's full of shit too and just making shit up to blame men for something negative she did, in order to shift scrutiny from herself and vaguely lash out at men.
Typical feminist.

So i'll ask again, why is this kind of behavior normalized in our society?

she probably thinks that cunt is a "misogynist slur" and that women are less likely to say it as an actual insult, so she feels the need to apologize for contributing to misogyny. idk. english people are a lot more uptight about the word cunt than scottish people are and i reject the premise that one newscaster saying it means that it is "normalized" in our society. i'm not sure what you want. i'm basically just guessing about what she said and why she said it. do you want me to write her an e-mail about how under feminist discourse both sexes are sexist against each other and thus her quip about men marginalizes misogyny through implication that it is a male thing?

Surely then you can find a comparison example that works here, if indeed this behavior isn't abnormal. I'm claiming pretty much only feminists act this way and get away with it. You could prove me wrong.

it is unreasonable to expect people to search through what is going to be literal lifetimes worth of media in order to search for examples of a very specific thing

I doubt she'd read the email or comprehend it properly instead of just dismissing you as "Not understanding feminism" or some shit, but you've got one reason why this kind of behavior is indicative of a problem in her mindset nailed down well enough, so... you're basically agreeing with me.

So it's abnormal then. Worth noting, one might say.

[Hurdergaryp]

It's tradition and therefore inevitable.

Thanks Obama

Good times. You never hear someone say "Thanks Trump", because there's nothing to be thankful for.

[Ifreann]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48624579

Why is the secret ballot held in the House of Commons? This is not House business? It's internal party business?

This is actually a genuine question on the usage of the HoC.

Over here, when a parliamentary fraction has a decision on its leader, it's not being done inside the main debating hall of parliament, but rather in another meeting room inside the building (usually their own meeting place, etc.).

So I'm a bit surprised that this was done in the HoC?

I, too, am confused about this.

[Slongs]

Thanks Obama

Good times. You never hear someone say "Thanks Trump", because there's nothing to be thankful for.

Thanks Putin

[Hurdergaryp]

Good times. You never hear someone say "Thanks Trump", because there's nothing to be thankful for.

Thanks Putin

In the Motherland it is important to be grateful, for it is healthier than accidentally falling out of your window.

[Slongs]

Thanks Putin

In the Motherland it is important to be grateful, for it is healthier than accidentally falling out of your window.

Defenstrates anyone who isn't grateful

[Galloism]

In the Motherland it is important to be grateful, for it is healthier than accidentally falling out of your window.

Defenstrates anyone who isn't grateful

One of my very favorite words.

[Ostroeuropa]

By the second round we should see if Johnson will win. It's possible the other candidates gang up on him as they get eliminated, but if he makes it to the member election, it's probably over.

If Johnsons share increases significantly in the second round, that's it.