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This is pretty much why I support Raab (Or at an outside shot, Stewart.) for Tory leader.

Most tory governments are a shitshow across the board and having any redeeming qualities at all is a novelty.

I think we're going to see a No deal brexit, followed by a Johnson landslide. At that point Corbyn will resign and we'll have a debate over the new path to take.

Labour and the Liberals will spend more time fighting eachother than Johnson for a long while, until his supporters realize he is basically a neoliberal type (Albeit, apparently genuinely more liberal in social terms) and you see a right wing revolt.

Ostroeuropa wrote:This is pretty much why I support Raab (Or at an outside shot, Stewart.) for Tory leader.

Most tory governments are a shitshow across the board and having any redeeming qualities at all is a novelty.

I think we're going to see a No deal brexit, followed by a Johnson landslide. At that point Corbyn will resign and we'll have a debate over the new path to take.

Labour and the Liberals will spend more time fighting eachother than Johnson for a long while, until his supporters realize he is basically a neoliberal type and you see a right wing revolt.

Only good thing to come out of that imo would be us leaving and joining the republic.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:This is pretty much why I support Raab (Or at an outside shot, Stewart.) for Tory leader.

Most tory governments are a shitshow across the board and having any redeeming qualities at all is a novelty.

I think we're going to see a No deal brexit, followed by a Johnson landslide. At that point Corbyn will resign and we'll have a debate over the new path to take.

Labour and the Liberals will spend more time fighting eachother than Johnson for a long while, until his supporters realize he is basically a neoliberal type and you see a right wing revolt.

Only good thing to come out of that imo would be us leaving and joining the republic.

Maybe, maybe not.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Only good thing to come out of that imo would be us leaving and joining the republic.

Maybe, maybe not.

Or even better: Why not become the republic?

Slongs wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Maybe, maybe not.

Or even better: Why not become the republic?

Well i'd need a few dozen thousand soldiers and tanks for that.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

Slongs wrote:
Or even better: Why not become the republic?

Well i'd need a few dozen thousand soldiers and tanks for that.

Just ask Trump for a small loan of a million dollars

Slongs wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well i'd need a few dozen thousand soldiers and tanks for that.

Just ask Trump for a small loan of a million dollars

I wouldn't. Trump would probably see it as a down-payment on a private bolthole for himself.

Philjia wrote:Sajid Javid has a more convincing claim to actually represent the interests of working people, since his father was an immigrant bus driver turned shop owner, he was subjected to racial abuse, and was fucked over by the education system more than once.

Oh, this is the bit where we vote for the head of Asia credit trading for Deutsche Bank because he represents the little people better?

Man, your country is fucked.

The Free Joy State wrote:

Slongs wrote:Just ask Trump for a small loan of a million dollars

I wouldn't. Trump would probably see it as a down-payment on a private bolthole for himself.

What if he already sees it as such?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl83Jpd_OI

This is the kind of shit a united europe can get away with. (47 seconds) Just saying. This is basically what we want to be, right?

Results of the first ballot will be in at roughly 13:00. Everyone with fewer than 17 votes will be out. Keep an eye out for candidates with fewer votes than open nominations.

Harper, Leadsom and McVey are out.

Rory Stewart and Matt Hancock narrowly avoid being eliminated.

Boris Johnson way ahead at over 100, 2nd place Hunt at 43.

Very disappointing for Raab - only 23.

Hancock and Javid are likely to probably leave the race following the very disappointing results for them.

Raab might leave the race too.

I think Gove will stay, despite Boris having over 2.5x his votes. Rory will probably stay just to see what happens. Boris obviously clear ahead, and Hunt is the metropolitan lib candidate.

Thanatttynia wrote:They may be colossal dicks but they're not uniquely evil. If they're prepared and able to intervene, other nations will be too. In any case it's not exactly a first for America to involve itself in morally dubious efforts (regime change or otherwise) in other countries. Obama had Merkel's phone tapped... My point is more that a US Secretary of State wouldn't have made such comments even five years ago. The UK's international power is nosediving, this is just one indication of that

No, President did instead.

The same people now weren't complaining complaining then are now those now very same who claim principal. If we are allowed to voice our very vocal opinions on the American president, I don't see why they can't do the same—it is the consequence of multilateral diplomacy after all.

I didn't like it then and I don't like it now, but don't pretend for a moment its a development as a result of Brexit.

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:Harper, Leadsom and McVey are out.

Rory Stewart and Matt Hancock narrowly avoid being eliminated.

Boris Johnson way ahead at over 100, 2nd place Hunt at 43.

Very disappointing for Raab - only 23.

Based Boris. I am most certainly pleased.

Well, there goes whatever international prestige we had left, I suppose.

Hahahaha.....


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Hahahahahaha

Big shame that Raab is basically eliminated, I wanted him to take leadership.

I guess the only option left now is Boris.

*shrug*

Maybe Raab will have the equalities commission under Johnson.

My condolences, Britain.

Boris Johnson in the lead. It seems my recently adoption of a policy of "expect nothing, but prepare for the stupidest possible outcome" when it comes to elections was a sensible decision.

Ostroeuropa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl83Jpd_OI

This is the kind of shit a united europe can get away with. (47 seconds) Just saying. This is basically what we want to be, right?

Why must you make me stan Juncker, Ostro? I don't wanna stan Juncker.

Liriena wrote:Boris Johnson in the lead. It seems my recently adoption of a policy of "expect nothing, but prepare for the stupidest possible outcome" when it comes to elections was a sensible decision.

Ostroeuropa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl83Jpd_OI

This is the kind of shit a united europe can get away with. (47 seconds) Just saying. This is basically what we want to be, right?

Why must you make me stan Juncker, Ostro? I don't wanna stan Juncker.

Lir.
Johnson is the compromise candidate. Let that sink in.

He's a social liberal, vaguely distrustful of government authoritarianism and doesn't like the surveillance state, does barmy schemes if they seem like a laugh (thus opening the door to environmentalism through shit like boris bikes), ardently pro-brexit, and so on.

Vassenor wrote:Well, there goes whatever international prestige we had left, I suppose.

What do you mean? This is great! Nothing improves the international reputation of your embarrassing omnishambles of a national government like electing the guy whose biggest achievement as Foreign Secretary was almost getting a British citizen killed by running his mouth and also thinking that anyone outside of Europe would like to hear any Rudyard Kipling quote that wasn't strictly from the Jungle Book.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Liriena wrote:Boris Johnson in the lead. It seems my recently adoption of a policy of "expect nothing, but prepare for the stupidest possible outcome" when it comes to elections was a sensible decision.


Why must you make me stan Juncker, Ostro? I don't wanna stan Juncker.

Lir.
Johnson is the compromise candidate. Let that sink in.

You know. Terry Pratchett dedicated his later years to advocating for the legalization of assisted suicide in the UK. Now, of course he was talking about assisted suicide for individual human beings, but I'm sure he'd appreciate it if we expanded that to political parties. It's clear that the Tory party wants to kill itself.

Ostroeuropa wrote:He's a social liberal, vaguely distrustful of government authoritarianism and doesn't like the surveillance state, does barmy schemes if they seem like a laugh (thus opening the door to environmentalism through shit like boris bikes), ardently pro-brexit, and so on.

You missed a golden opportunity to do a Zizek impression in that "and so on".

Liriena wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Lir.
Johnson is the compromise candidate. Let that sink in.

You know. Terry Pratchett dedicated his later years to advocating for the legalization of assisted suicide in the UK. Now, of course he was talking about assisted suicide for individual human beings, but I'm sure he'd appreciate it if we expanded that to political parties. It's clear that the Tory party wants to kill itself.

Ostroeuropa wrote:He's a social liberal, vaguely distrustful of government authoritarianism and doesn't like the surveillance state, does barmy schemes if they seem like a laugh (thus opening the door to environmentalism through shit like boris bikes), ardently pro-brexit, and so on.

You missed a golden opportunity to do a Zizek impression in that "and so on".

The polls indicate Boris Johnson would achieve a landslide majority, so no, not really. He would have 394 seats from annexing almost the entirety of the Brexit party vote, bringing the Conservative party back to pre-crisis levels while everyone else is still divided and balkanized.