UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Philjia]

Well yes and look how we improved them less tribal conflict increased industrial output less widow buring a love of tea a love of cricket and most importantly democracy

Africa as a continent was actually pretty stable before we fucked it up.

It was full of rising and falling imperialist states, but so was Europe at the time. It wasn't in the same state of total open warfare as Europe, but Africa was much more sparsely populated and much more difficult to build a land empire in because a great deal of it isn't particularly hospitable.

[North German Realm]

I wouldn't call pre-colonial Africa stable to be honest. It was a mess, but the Europeans made it absolutely worse because of their lack of tact.

A mess according to who?

According to the people who were enslaved in East Africa, to the people in Central Africa who died from easily-preventable diseases,etc. etc. Pre-colonial Africa was mostly stable (in terms of less wars and fighting) because it was sparsely populated, which specifically happened because of the low quality of life in the continent. Of course, Europeans didn't exactly fix that (and added a few new messes, Apartheid being one example and colonialism being another) but to claim pre-colonial Africa was not a mess is a tad ahistorical.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Wow an actual living breathing Victorian era entity, in 2019.

[Souseiseki]

Only because they're nations where we forcibly imposed our values.

Well yes and look how we improved them less tribal conflict increased industrial output less widow buring a love of tea a love of cricket and most importantly democracy

divide and conquer was a key element of british colonial policy. needless to say, the whole "divide" thing was not entirely in line with the whole "less tribal conflict" thing.

[Ostroeuropa]

Well yes and look how we improved them less tribal conflict increased industrial output less widow buring a love of tea a love of cricket and most importantly democracy

divide and conquer was a key element of british colonial policy. needless to say, the whole "divide" thing was not entirely in line with the whole "less tribal conflict" thing.

In some places there was less conflict, in some there was more.

The roots of the conflicts were not dealt with except in limited cases and not due to British intervention and often against British interests and activity.

If we arrived and two groups fucking hated eachother and regularly went to war, we "Kept the peace" and reduced tribal conflict. But we also made sure they kept hating eachother and made sure they knew that the only thing keeping the peace was us. The conflict became "managed".

If we arrived and two groups broadly co-existed with some tensions, we ratcheted those the fuck up to produce the same situation as the first.

Like riot police arriving in a bar.

All well and good if there's already a fight... but if there's not? Not very good.

Especially when the riot police in both circumstances keep whispering in the ears of the people they're seperating that the other side called them a cuck and so on.

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

divide and conquer was a key element of british colonial policy. needless to say, the whole "divide" thing was not entirely in line with the whole "less tribal conflict" thing.

In some places there was less conflict, in some there was more.

The roots of the conflicts were not dealt with except in limited cases and not due to British intervention and often against British interests and activity.

If we arrived and two groups fucking hated eachother and regularly went to war, we "Kept the peace" and reduced tribal conflict. But we also made sure they kept hating eachother and made sure they knew that the only thing keeping the peace was us. The conflict became "managed".

If we arrived and two groups broadly co-existed with some tensions, we ratcheted those the fuck up to produce the same situation as the first.

Like riot police arriving in a bar.

All well and good if there's already a fight... but if there's not? Not very good.

Especially when the riot police in both circumstances keep whispering in the ears of the people they're seperating that the other side called them a cuck and so on.

We are a candle our light is not always clean but compared to the darkness of Germany, Spain, France, arabs,Russia and China we are a shiny beacon of freedom, we may not be more but Britain was and IS the best option for global superpower as we only who proven to do things because it was right like ending global slavery from 1815 onwards

[Jedi Council]

In some places there was less conflict, in some there was more.

The roots of the conflicts were not dealt with except in limited cases and not due to British intervention and often against British interests and activity.

If we arrived and two groups fucking hated eachother and regularly went to war, we "Kept the peace" and reduced tribal conflict. But we also made sure they kept hating eachother and made sure they knew that the only thing keeping the peace was us. The conflict became "managed".

If we arrived and two groups broadly co-existed with some tensions, we ratcheted those the fuck up to produce the same situation as the first.

Like riot police arriving in a bar.

All well and good if there's already a fight... but if there's not? Not very good.

Especially when the riot police in both circumstances keep whispering in the ears of the people they're seperating that the other side called them a cuck and so on.

We are a candle our light is not always clean but compared to the darkness of Germany, Spain, France, arabs,Russia and China we are a shiny beacon of freedom, we may not be more but Britain was and IS the best option for global superpower as we only who proven to do things because it was right like ending global slavery from 1815 onwards

Britain halted the slave trade in 1807, but did not eliminate the institution of slavery until 1833. The idea that this ended Global Slavery, or that it was done out of an overabundance of compassion for slaves is ludicrous.
Britain was like any other super power, that being essentially a big bully, not some idyllic Arthurian fantasy.

[Duhon]

Genuinely don't know what to make of this comment.

Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart

Because Europe ripping itself apart has had worldwide implications since its colonizing period -- and yes, by "Europe", that includes Britain (and Ireland, because of course).

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Reading the youtube comments on gove speeches, why does anybody care that he took coke in his younger days? Like...who gives a fuck?

[Duhon]

Reading the youtube comments on gove speeches, why does anybody care that he took coke in his younger days? Like...who gives a fuck?

Punishing people for something you do on the side is a whole lot of dick.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Reading the youtube comments on gove speeches, why does anybody care that he took coke in his younger days? Like...who gives a fuck?

Punishing people for something you do on the side is a whole lot of dick.

He has terrible policy positions, talk about those, like he's not committed to leaving on the 31st of oct.

[Duhon]

Punishing people for something you do on the side is a whole lot of dick.

He has terrible policy positions, talk about those, like he's not committed to leaving on the 31st of oct.

Why do that when hammering him on his hypocrisy is more palatable?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

He has terrible policy positions, talk about those, like he's not committed to leaving on the 31st of oct.

Why do that when hammering him on his hypocrisy is more palatable?

Why would you want to? He's the softest Brexit candidate with a chance of winning. You should be supporting him.

[Uan aa Boa]

He's the softest Brexit candidate with a chance of winning. You should be supporting him.

Nobody has to support anyone for the position of Tory leader, just as no-one needs to support being beaten with a cricket bat rather than a crowbar.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

He's the softest Brexit candidate with a chance of winning. You should be supporting him.

Nobody has to support anyone for the position of Tory leader, just as no-one needs to support being beaten with a cricket bat rather than a crowbar.

'nobody' isn't an option though.

[Neu Leonstein]

Why would you want to? He's the softest Brexit candidate with a chance of winning. You should be supporting him.

But if his position doesn't make any sense - as in, it literally does not take into account the constraints that the British government operates under - then he's not worth supporting. If every candidate claims they can hold their breath for longer than 24 hours, and Gove claims it's for 26 hours against Johnson's 72, then Gove is still batshit crazy.

I would support an amendment to make holding your breath for longer than 24 hours a requirement for Brexit though.

[Duhon]

And to be clear, that's EVERY candidate. No one is decent enough to end the nightmare that is Brexit; everyone would rather see Britain burn in hell than be part of the European Union.

Why entertain what they will say seriously? People know they're just sharpening their bone saws.

[The Huskar Social Union]

In some places there was less conflict, in some there was more.

The roots of the conflicts were not dealt with except in limited cases and not due to British intervention and often against British interests and activity.

If we arrived and two groups fucking hated eachother and regularly went to war, we "Kept the peace" and reduced tribal conflict. But we also made sure they kept hating eachother and made sure they knew that the only thing keeping the peace was us. The conflict became "managed".

If we arrived and two groups broadly co-existed with some tensions, we ratcheted those the fuck up to produce the same situation as the first.

Like riot police arriving in a bar.

All well and good if there's already a fight... but if there's not? Not very good.

Especially when the riot police in both circumstances keep whispering in the ears of the people they're seperating that the other side called them a cuck and so on.

We are a candle our light is not always clean but compared to the darkness of Germany, Spain, France, arabs,Russia and China we are a shiny beacon of freedom, we may not be more but Britain was and IS the best option for global superpower as we only who proven to do things because it was right like ending global slavery from 1815 onwards

As an irishman allow me to laugh my fucking balls off at how stupid and out of touch this post is.

Ahem.




HAHAHAHAHA

[The Huskar Social Union]

Rory Stewart is, as far as i am aware, the only tory leadership candidate who supports the NI backstop. Every other one is against.

lol my home is fucked but hey who gives a damn what we want am i rite

[Chan Island]

In some places there was less conflict, in some there was more.

The roots of the conflicts were not dealt with except in limited cases and not due to British intervention and often against British interests and activity.

If we arrived and two groups fucking hated eachother and regularly went to war, we "Kept the peace" and reduced tribal conflict. But we also made sure they kept hating eachother and made sure they knew that the only thing keeping the peace was us. The conflict became "managed".

If we arrived and two groups broadly co-existed with some tensions, we ratcheted those the fuck up to produce the same situation as the first.

Like riot police arriving in a bar.

All well and good if there's already a fight... but if there's not? Not very good.

Especially when the riot police in both circumstances keep whispering in the ears of the people they're seperating that the other side called them a cuck and so on.

We are a candle our light is not always clean but compared to the darkness of Germany, Spain, France, arabs,Russia and China we are a shiny beacon of freedom, we may not be more but Britain was and IS the best option for global superpower as we only who proven to do things because it was right like ending global slavery from 1815 onwards

This is surely a caricature. You can't actually be serious in saying something so massively blinkered.

Rory Stewart is, as far as i am aware, the only tory leadership candidate who supports the NI backstop. Every other one is against.

lol my home is fucked but hey who gives a damn what we want am i rite

Well, you see it's not that they don't care, it's just that politicians backed by donors implicated in the Panama Papers want to kamikaze out of the EU at all costs. ;-;

[Philjia]

Rory Stewart is, as far as i am aware, the only tory leadership candidate who supports the NI backstop. Every other one is against.

lol my home is fucked but hey who gives a damn what we want am i rite

It's outrageous, fucking up Northern Ireland is a job for the Northern Irish parties.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Rory Stewart is, as far as i am aware, the only tory leadership candidate who supports the NI backstop. Every other one is against.

lol my home is fucked but hey who gives a damn what we want am i rite

It's outrageous, fucking up Northern Ireland is a job for the Northern Irish parties.

And that would not be anywhere near as bad as it is if May didnt put on a ball gag and nuzzle up against Arlene Foster with her stupid fucking election that made the DUP king makers.

[Dumb Ideologies]

It's outrageous, fucking up Northern Ireland is a job for the Northern Irish parties.

And that would not be anywhere near as bad as it is if May didnt put on a ball gag and nuzzle up against Arlene Foster with her stupid fucking election that made the DUP king makers.

Well..there's an image.

[The Huskar Social Union]

And that would not be anywhere near as bad as it is if May didnt put on a ball gag and nuzzle up against Arlene Foster with her stupid fucking election that made the DUP king makers.

Well..there's an image.

[Ifreann]

Reading the youtube comments on gove speeches, why does anybody care that he took coke in his younger days? Like...who gives a fuck?

Well in theory his party gives a fuck, what with how they keep throwing people in prison for that.