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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
5
4%
Hunt
11
9%
Javid
5
4%
Johnson
37
31%
Raab
11
9%
Stewart
50
42%
 
Total votes : 119
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:57 pm

Caracasus wrote:
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I honestly can't believe they tried to whip the party after promising a free vote. That's just amazing.


three line whip as well lmao
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:57 pm

Nietzschean Jihad wrote:So no-deal Brexit happening?


The Commons has basically said that the government cannot leave without a deal.
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Postby Nietzschean Jihad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:58 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nietzschean Jihad wrote:So no-deal Brexit happening?


The Commons has basically said that the government cannot leave without a deal.

Nice gridlock
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Postby Philjia » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:58 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
I honestly can't believe they tried to whip the party after promising a free vote. That's just amazing.


three line whip as well lmao

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Postby Caracasus » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:59 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
I honestly can't believe they tried to whip the party after promising a free vote. That's just amazing.


three line whip as well lmao


Well if you're sick of people spreading rumours that you are an innefective and impotent leader, I guess you can always just go ahead and prove them right.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:00 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nietzschean Jihad wrote:So no-deal Brexit happening?


The Commons has basically said that the government cannot leave without a deal.

So what happens now if the EU won't give us an extention?
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Postby Nietzschean Jihad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:01 pm

May: 'Legal default remains no-deal'

Point of Order

House of Commons

Parliament

Theresa May says MPs have provided a clear majority against leaving without a deal.

The legal default in EU law remains that the UK will leave without a deal unless something else is agreed, she says, noting the responsibility on everyone in the House is now to work out what that is.

So, what's the next step of her masterplan?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:03 pm

Nietzschean Jihad wrote:
May: 'Legal default remains no-deal'

Point of Order

House of Commons

Parliament

Theresa May says MPs have provided a clear majority against leaving without a deal.

The legal default in EU law remains that the UK will leave without a deal unless something else is agreed, she says, noting the responsibility on everyone in the House is now to work out what that is.

So, what's the next step of her masterplan?


Probably another vote on her deal, hoping ERG will fold and support her this time, rather than lose Brexit entirely.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:03 pm

Nietzschean Jihad wrote:
May: 'Legal default remains no-deal'

Point of Order

House of Commons

Parliament

Theresa May says MPs have provided a clear majority against leaving without a deal.

The legal default in EU law remains that the UK will leave without a deal unless something else is agreed, she says, noting the responsibility on everyone in the House is now to work out what that is.

So, what's the next step of her masterplan?


I don't know. We're into six-dimensional chess here now.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:05 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
The Commons has basically said that the government cannot leave without a deal.

So what happens now if the EU won't give us an extention?

No-deal Brexit by default.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:07 pm

Nietzschean Jihad wrote:
May: 'Legal default remains no-deal'

Point of Order

House of Commons

Parliament

Theresa May says MPs have provided a clear majority against leaving without a deal.

The legal default in EU law remains that the UK will leave without a deal unless something else is agreed, she says, noting the responsibility on everyone in the House is now to work out what that is.

So, what's the next step of her masterplan?

Crashing this parliament!


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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:09 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Nietzschean Jihad wrote:So, what's the next step of her masterplan?

Crashing this parliament!


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I would only support this kind of thing if King Arthur himself returned from Avalon to kick arse.
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Postby Hydesland » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:10 pm

Farage trying to get European leaders to veto an extension - utterly detestable despicable scumbag.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:12 pm

Hydesland wrote:Farage trying to get European leaders to veto an extension - utterly detestable despicable scumbag.

Most of them hate him. May as well have a resurrected Hitler trying to talk to them.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:12 pm

Hydesland wrote:Farage trying to get European leaders to veto an extension - utterly detestable despicable scumbag.

Or trying to get what he's campaigned on to come true.
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Postby Philjia » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:18 pm

Holy shit, it's Ed Miliband!
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:18 pm

I'm curious ... I doubt it will happen, but who can tell anymore ... but what happens if Parliament votes against the Government asking for an extension? Given that there's a risk, and Parliament has just asked that leaving without a withdrawal agreement is to be avoided under any circumstances, should May just go ahead with the extension and not bother with another vote?
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Postby Dresderstan » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:18 pm

Christ Ed Milliband has aged quite a bit since 2015! What is up with his hair it's become grey?
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:19 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Hydesland wrote:Farage trying to get European leaders to veto an extension - utterly detestable despicable scumbag.

Or trying to get what he's campaigned on to come true.

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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:19 pm

Philjia wrote:Holy shit, it's Ed Miliband!


cameron warned us that we would one day have chaos with ed milliband. if only we had listened!
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Postby Novus America » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:20 pm

So Parliament somehow managed to make things worse.

More grid lock! More chaos!
More uncertainty!

I hope the EU tells the UK to fuck off.
Because then Parliament would be forced to stop stalling.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:20 pm

Philjia wrote:Holy shit, it's Ed Miliband!

You only know shit is serious when they use the Gordon Brown card that they have been holding back.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:20 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Or trying to get what he's campaigned on to come true.

*repeats two-third majority adage*


That's only for things that go his way. He's been pretty actively trying to pretend he never said it since the vote.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:21 pm

Neu Leonstein wrote:I'm curious ... I doubt it will happen, but who can tell anymore ... but what happens if Parliament votes against the Government asking for an extension? Given that there's a risk, and Parliament has just asked that leaving without a withdrawal agreement is to be avoided under any circumstances, should May just go ahead with the extension and not bother with another vote?

As far as I am aware, a no tonight coupled with a no tomorrow night will create a yes for No-deal Brexit... :?
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Postby Senegalboy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:22 pm

So what does parliament actually want.It voted down a deal to votes down no deal but we have no idea what parliament actually wants.

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