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Ostroeuropa wrote:The CUKs have some new policies out and boy howdy are they as good as the name and their logo.

Firstly they want to charge people for using self-check outs because old people supposedly don't know how to use them and it's causing check out segregation, and that's bad, that's the kind of division that caused Brexit. So what we should do, is all use the same checkouts or pay a fee to self-checkout. and then, when you're in line for your shopping, engage in friendly political conversation with elderly people doing their shopping, like a normal person.

Second, they want a day where headphones are banned so we have to talk to eachother. (screams internally).

And third, they want people to volunteer a certain amount every month in exchange for tax breaks. (Well intentioned maybe, but just think about this for two moments to realize which class will disproportionately benefit here.).

This is hell.

This is what hell looks like.

Like, just put the first two policies on a bill board and you can practically hear the nations asshole clench shut.

Now we know who those people on the bus who try to talk to strangers are. They're CUK voters. This untapped demographic will surely be the edge the party needs.

They should stop copying political talking points from the Raving Monster Loony party.

Uunited Islands wrote:

The Free Joy State wrote:And because it's your opportunity to assert your right to participate in the democratic process -- which is an important right.

But I am a dictatorship I don’t into democracy

If you're speaking OOC'ly, the UK is a democracy, and many of us prefer it to the alternatives. Though you don't have to vote.

If you're speaking IC'ly, NSG is an OOC forum. There are other forums to talk about your country. They can be found here.

Uunited Islands wrote:

The Free Joy State wrote:And because it's your opportunity to assert your right to participate in the democratic process -- which is an important right.

But I am a dictatorship I don’t into democracy

You're not a country, you're an individual. How can you be a dictatorship. General is out of character.

The blAAtschApen wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:The CUKs have some new policies out and boy howdy are they as good as the name and their logo.

Firstly they want to charge people for using self-check outs because old people supposedly don't know how to use them and it's causing check out segregation, and that's bad, that's the kind of division that caused Brexit. So what we should do, is all use the same checkouts or pay a fee to self-checkout. and then, when you're in line for your shopping, engage in friendly political conversation with elderly people doing their shopping, like a normal person.

Second, they want a day where headphones are banned so we have to talk to eachother. (screams internally).

And third, they want people to volunteer a certain amount every month in exchange for tax breaks. (Well intentioned maybe, but just think about this for two moments to realize which class will disproportionately benefit here.).

This is hell.

This is what hell looks like.

Like, just put the first two policies on a bill board and you can practically hear the nations asshole clench shut.

Now we know who those people on the bus who try to talk to strangers are. They're CUK voters. This untapped demographic will surely be the edge the party needs.

They should stop copying political talking points from the Raving Monster Loony party.

Oh now, ever since pet passports became a thing I refuse to mock policies just because they were first thought up by Monster Raving Loony party.

Uunited Islands wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:You should vote if you want a say in which party is elected.

I honestly don’t care about brexit

The Brexit referendum was in 2016, you wouldn't be voting on that.

Uunited Islands wrote:

The Free Joy State wrote:And because it's your opportunity to assert your right to participate in the democratic process -- which is an important right.

But I am a dictatorship I don’t into democracy

In NS, I'm a super-religious crusading state with a belief in the 'tyrant,' an evil spirit which infests the minds of humans and tries to make all the world slaves; the unending war must therefore be fought against him, so that freedom under God must prevail.

Since this is NSG though, I'm a Brexit-supporting vaguely left-leaning libertarian pacefist law student, nsg is entirely out of character.

Although, I am not going to be able to vote as I thought I'd be in Manchester, registered there, and am in fact 200 miles away in Scotland tomorrow.

Hoping Alliance can grab the third MEP seat here in NI.


Though whether that seat exists for any longer than a few months depends on how that shitstorm in parliament goes.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Hoping Alliance can grab the third MEP seat here in NI.


Though whether that seat exists for any longer than a few months depends on how that shitstorm in parliament goes.

Are Brexit running in NI?

Might vote for Brex since they are the only anti-feminist party with a chance, under the principle of political wrecking maneuvers. I supported Trump for similar reasons. If he wanted to drop a nuke on london, but was the only anti-feminist candidate, i'd give him my support. That'll continue to be the case until the problem is redressed, much like minorities rioting and, in essence, burning down their own communities to protest things.

Aiming to make society unpleasant and ungovernable to protest something seems effective, and if you can convince a committed minority to do it, you can swing elections.

The point is to emphasize that society will not be pleasant until our demands are met, and the policies you seek to govern by cause social disorder and decline.

This is one of the only legal means available of behaving that way, a ballot box riot.

More broadly, BREX is a backlash against both the neoliberal and the progressive agenda, and handing them another defeat is a good thing. The cries about how it's self-harm miss the point.

We're going to do something that damages everyone until you get it into your heads that even the positive aspects of your ideology?

We're willing to tear those down first to get rid of you. We hate you that much. Like when dealing with Imperialists who just refused to take on board criticism or tolerate alternatives because obviously Empire is magical and desirable, and so you go, "Fine, we'll set fire to the trains and burn down the docks." and they scream and go hysterical over trade with the empire and the benefits it brings the locals.

Right.

And we don't care. Get lost. Go away. Everything about what you bring to the table? We're willing to sacrifice it.

Even though you aren't the only possible sources of it and others without your massive downsides exist, that's still the case.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Hoping Alliance can grab the third MEP seat here in NI.


Though whether that seat exists for any longer than a few months depends on how that shitstorm in parliament goes.

Are Brexit running in NI?

"Would you boys be wanting a Catholic Brexit or a Protestant Brexit now?"

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Are Brexit running in NI?

"Would you boys be wanting a Catholic Brexit or a Protestant Brexit now?"

There's a joke in Ireland I think (maybe it was Serbia or something). A local asks a foreigner, "are you a Catholic or Protestant?" To which the foreigner responds "I'm an atheist." The local then asks "Yes, but are you a Catholic atheist or a Protestant atheist?"

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Are Brexit running in NI?

"Would you boys be wanting a Catholic Brexit or a Protestant Brexit now?"

A *mumbles* white and *mumbles* Brexit.

Ostroeuropa wrote:Might vote for Brex since they are the only anti-feminist party...

Are they? How so? I was under the impression that their only policy is to be lead by Nigel Farage(/Arron Banks).

Ifreann wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:Might vote for Brex since they are the only anti-feminist party...

Are they? How so? I was under the impression that their only policy is to be lead by Nigel Farage(/Arron Banks).

Farage is an anti-feminist.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Are they? How so? I was under the impression that their only policy is to be lead by Nigel Farage(/Arron Banks).

Farage is an anti-feminist.

Are you sure?

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Are they? How so? I was under the impression that their only policy is to be lead by Nigel Farage(/Arron Banks).

Farage is an anti-feminist.

But is he going to actually do anything anti-feminist? Are the other Brexit Party candidates going to?

Ostroeuropa wrote:Might vote for Brex since they are the only anti-feminist party with a chance, under the principle of political wrecking maneuvers.

"He would see this country burn if he could be king of the ashes"

Philjia wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:Might vote for Brex since they are the only anti-feminist party with a chance, under the principle of political wrecking maneuvers.

"He would see this country burn if he could be king of the ashes"

I was thinking more along the lines of "I came in like a Brexit ball!"

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Are they? How so? I was under the impression that their only policy is to be lead by Nigel Farage(/Arron Banks).

Farage is an anti-feminist.

Such casual betrayal of the UKIP banterbois.

Ifreann wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Farage is an anti-feminist.

But is he going to actually do anything anti-feminist? Are the other Brexit Party candidates going to?

Doesn't much matter in terms of legitimizing the discourse and making it clear the constituency exists, as well as emphasizing just how lopsided, biased, and toxic our media is on the matter given how badly it has been infiltrated and overrun. He'll certainly prevent further destruction of society by feminist proposals.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Farage is an anti-feminist.

Are you sure?

Pretty darn sure. He said "No" when asked if feminist and part of his reasoning is it's anti-male and hateful. He's also consistently opposed them on issues.

Philjia wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:Might vote for Brex since they are the only anti-feminist party with a chance, under the principle of political wrecking maneuvers.

"He would see this country burn if he could be king of the ashes"

"Ungovernable" has a long history of being a viable means of protesting an oppressive power. You cannot compel people to operate in good faith in your society if they decide you are their enemy and have no intention of being otherwise.

In the past, people picked up a rifle and just took to destroying the infrastructure and so on directly.

Voting for austerity types is probably more devestating in the mid to long term, it's also legal, so there we go.

Women support feminism because they profit from it. Making it clear that society in general will crumble if they continue to do so is one means to force them to stop. Same as oppressive regimes in general.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Ifreann wrote:But is he going to actually do anything anti-feminist? Are the other Brexit Party candidates going to?

Doesn't much matter in terms of legitimizing the discourse and making it clear the constituency exists, as well as emphasizing just how lopsided, biased, and toxic our media is on the matter given how badly it has been infiltrated and overrun. He'll certainly prevent further destruction of society by feminist proposals.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Are you sure?

Pretty darn sure. He said "No" when asked if feminist and part of his reasoning is it's anti-male and hateful. He's also consistently opposed them on issues.

Fair enough. I just think I remember some anti-SJW type person saying "Farage is usually good but he has a lapse on feminist issues" or something like that.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Ifreann wrote:But is he going to actually do anything anti-feminist? Are the other Brexit Party candidates going to?

Doesn't much matter in terms of legitimizing the discourse and making it clear the constituency exists, as well as emphasizing just how lopsided, biased, and toxic our media is on the matter given how badly it has been infiltrated and overrun.

I'm sure that someone would see Nigel Farage's Brexit party getting seats in the European Parliament as a big win for anti-feminism, but I suspect it would be you and you alone.

He'll certainly prevent further destruction of society by feminist proposals.

Yes, he'll definitely do that as an isolated MEP, if he takes office at all.

Ostroeuropa wrote:Might vote for Brex since they are the only anti-feminist party with a chance, under the principle of political wrecking maneuvers. I supported Trump for similar reasons. If he wanted to drop a nuke on london, but was the only anti-feminist candidate, i'd give him my support. That'll continue to be the case until the problem is redressed, much like minorities rioting and, in essence, burning down their own communities to protest things.

I agree some extreme feminists can be pretty bad, but why not just vote for reasonable moderate feminists, as opposed to absolute nutjobs who oppose feminism? Why not vote for the Tories or Change UK?

Ifreann wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Doesn't much matter in terms of legitimizing the discourse and making it clear the constituency exists, as well as emphasizing just how lopsided, biased, and toxic our media is on the matter given how badly it has been infiltrated and overrun.

I'm sure that someone would see Nigel Farage's Brexit party getting seats in the European Parliament as a big win for anti-feminism, but I suspect it would be you and you alone.

He'll certainly prevent further destruction of society by feminist proposals.

Yes, he'll definitely do that as an isolated MEP, if he takes office at all.

It's a strike against the general progressive movement, which includes feminism. I'm not just talking about the EU parliament either. BREX is set to win the welsh assembly elections too, and take most of the MPS here.