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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
5
4%
Hunt
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9%
Javid
5
4%
Johnson
37
31%
Raab
11
9%
Stewart
50
42%
 
Total votes : 119
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An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Greens are going to better and better as climate change hits harder.

Greens achieve total political dominance just as it's too late to do anything about climate change, so they ban nuclear power for the sake of doing something.

mfw I'm living in a post-apocalyptic dystopia and I don't even get to LARP as a Fallout character :(
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Postby Hakons » Fri May 03, 2019 8:07 am

How does the UK sustain multiple parties in a FPTP system?
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UKIP has run itself over! But it's not necessarily out of it!
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri May 03, 2019 8:09 am

Hakons wrote:How does the UK sustain multiple parties in a FPTP system?

A combination of sheer luck, stubbornness and localised parties in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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Postby Liriena » Fri May 03, 2019 8:11 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Hakons wrote:How does the UK sustain multiple parties in a FPTP system?

A combination of sheer luck, stubbornness and localised parties in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Caroline Lucas is the real MVP, clinging onto that one lonely Green seat for nine years straight.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri May 03, 2019 8:11 am

Hakons wrote:How does the UK sustain multiple parties in a FPTP system?


luck.

as a serious answer, it's still a two party system for the most part. it's just that sometimes the two parties change. if you're in a labour/conservative seat then the existence of the liberal democrats does not really impact you, and if you're in a labour/liberal democrat seat then the existence of the conservatives does not really impact you. the mathematical bias towards two parties is still there.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 03, 2019 8:13 am

Liriena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Greens achieve total political dominance just as it's too late to do anything about climate change, so they ban nuclear power for the sake of doing something.

mfw I'm living in a post-apocalyptic dystopia and I don't even get to LARP as a Fallout character :(

This post-apocalypse will be Waterworld, not Fallout.
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Postby Liriena » Fri May 03, 2019 8:13 am

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Liriena wrote:mfw I'm living in a post-apocalyptic dystopia and I don't even get to LARP as a Fallout character :(

This post-apocalypse will be Waterworld, not Fallout.

So I'm getting a CG'd hairline and gills? Gross.
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri May 03, 2019 8:21 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Hakons wrote:How does the UK sustain multiple parties in a FPTP system?


luck.

as a serious answer, it's still a two party system for the most part. it's just that sometimes the two parties change. if you're in a labour/conservative seat then the existence of the liberal democrats does not really impact you, and if you're in a labour/liberal democrat seat then the existence of the conservatives does not really impact you. the mathematical bias towards two parties is still there.

And there are some conservative/liberal democrat seats, too...
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Postby Philjia » Fri May 03, 2019 8:24 am

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Postby Philjia » Fri May 03, 2019 8:30 am

The Residents Association Residents for Uttlesford has taken control of Uttlesford council from the Tories.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri May 03, 2019 8:31 am

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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 03, 2019 8:31 am

Liriena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This post-apocalypse will be Waterworld, not Fallout.

So I'm getting a CG'd hairline and gills? Gross.

Instead of a PipBoy and a Vault suit, you'll get a pallet and a bedsheet.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri May 03, 2019 8:37 am

I'm guessing that Theresa is interpreting this as a clear message from the electorate to have MPs vote on her deal again.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 03, 2019 8:39 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I'm guessing that Theresa is interpreting this as a clear message from the electorate to have MPs vote on her deal again.


If Labour also loses seats that'll be their message. They'll say it's about both parties and therefore nothing she can do about it.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri May 03, 2019 8:39 am

>UKIP -88

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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 03, 2019 8:39 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I'm guessing that Theresa is interpreting this as a clear message from the electorate to have MPs vote on her deal again.

Cant wait for Local Elections 2-4.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri May 03, 2019 8:40 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I'm guessing that Theresa is interpreting this as a clear message from the electorate to have MPs vote on her deal again.


yeah, it's pretty clear that the tories and labour are being punished for blocking may's deal and not getting on with brexit. when will they learn?
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-990 i can't stop refreshing

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Postby Liriena » Fri May 03, 2019 8:48 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I'm guessing that Theresa is interpreting this as a clear message from the electorate to have MPs vote on her deal again.


If Labour also loses seats that'll be their message. They'll say it's about both parties and therefore nothing she can do about it.

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Postby Liriena » Fri May 03, 2019 8:50 am

Souseiseki wrote:-990 i can't stop refreshing

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-1006

Theresa, you did it!
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Postby Liriena » Fri May 03, 2019 8:51 am

Liriena wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:-990 i can't stop refreshing

e: -997 i am being trolled

-1006

Theresa, you did it!

Also... the Greens are not too far away from doubling UKIP's losses in wins.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri May 03, 2019 8:52 am

Things are getting serious. Baldrick resigns from Labour.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 03, 2019 8:52 am

Souseiseki wrote:-990 i can't stop refreshing

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Great news for Tories as they only lose 1 councillor.

*checks notes*

Terrible news for Tories as they lose 1 kilo-councillor.
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