UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Old Tyrannia]

What have the other CUKs been doing? They seem to have been quite quiet recently.

No doubt working on a spectacular European election campaign.

"Strong opinions are dangerous. Vote for Change, so that nothing ever does."

[The Blaatschapen]

the US, unironically, does not have a prison system or justice system of an acceptance standard that we can safely extradite people there - especially in politically cases like this

I'd allow him to be tried for the rape case, in Sweden, and only for the rape case, and only in Sweden. Nothing else.

I agree here.

For once we are on the same side

I also believe the USA has no jurisdiction in the first place. Where the "crimes" committed while he was on US territory

[Northwest Slobovia]

I also believe the USA has no jurisdiction in the first place. Where the "crimes" committed while he was on US territory

Crime, singular: he's charged with conspiracy to commit electronic intrusion. His alleged co-conspirator, Manning, was in the US.

I don't know how conspiracies allegedly committed by parties in different countries communicating electronically are usually handled, but I imagine there's some standard the judge is considering. It's not like this is the first time people in different countries have plotted to commit crime in one of them.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Boris Johnson once again shown to be a lying sack of shit..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47913555

The Telegraph had argued it was "clearly comically polemical".

Boris in a nutshell.

*Tories

[Ifreann]

Boris in a nutshell.

*Tories

Most of them aren't comical.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Apparently when Annunziata Reee-Mogg was still in the Tory Party, David Cameron tried to get her to call herself Nancy, to seem less posh.

[Duhon]

Apparently when Annunziata Reee-Mogg was still in the Tory Party, David Cameron tried to get her to call herself Nancy, to seem less posh.

Wait, "Annunziata"? After Gabriele d'Annunzio?

[The Free Joy State]

*Tories

Most of them aren't comical.

Oh, I don't know. A fair few members of the Parliamentary Tory Party make me laugh.

We are still counting dry, sarcastic laughter, right?

[Greater Loegria]

Most of them aren't comical.

Oh, I don't know. A fair few members of the Parliamentary Tory Party make me laugh.

We are still counting dry, sarcastic laughter, right?

Many, outside the political sphere are actually a good roar. Though some of them do need a few drams to warm them up like.

[The Blaatschapen]

Most of them aren't comical.

Oh, I don't know. A fair few members of the Parliamentary Tory Party make me laugh.

We are still counting dry, sarcastic laughter, right?

Most of them make me laugh.

Schadenfreude counts as well, right?

[The Alma Mater]

Oh, I don't know. A fair few members of the Parliamentary Tory Party make me laugh.

We are still counting dry, sarcastic laughter, right?

Most of them make me laugh.

Schadenfreude counts as well, right?

Is it telling that there is no English word for schadenfreude ?

[Dumb Ideologies]

Most of them make me laugh.

Schadenfreude counts as well, right?

Is it telling that there is no English word for schadenfreude ?

There is, it's "schadenfreude".

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

Any extradition of Assange to the US would put me off voting for the Tories ever.

Beyond joke police state.

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 3953903616

Why do you oppose giving terrorist collaborators their proper punishment?

Because some terrorists are freedom fighters.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

Hurting the US' ability to conduct its illegal wars shouldn't be something condemnable.

But being a possible rapist is.

You mean his rape charge in Sweden which was dropped after Sweden was asked for its prosecution service to provide any shred of evidence to Ecuador whatsoever, and the same Sweden which openly refused to sign a letter of promise that they aren't charging him purely to extradite him to the US?

[Vassenor]

But being a possible rapist is.

You mean his rape charge in Sweden which was dropped after Sweden was asked for its prosecution service to provide any shred of evidence to Ecuador whatsoever, and the same Sweden which openly refused to sign a letter of promise that they aren't charging him purely to extradite him to the US?

You mean the rape charge that is still open until next year?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You mean his rape charge in Sweden which was dropped after Sweden was asked for its prosecution service to provide any shred of evidence to Ecuador whatsoever, and the same Sweden which openly refused to sign a letter of promise that they aren't charging him purely to extradite him to the US?

You mean the rape charge that is still open until next year?

And if he's being arrested to be sent to Sweden, where he won't then be sent to the US afterwards, all good. Doubt that's it though.

[Phoenicaea]

^ the wikilieaks and Assange shouldn t be condemned harshly, because the different types of accuses should be treated as separatedly. honesty and sincerity is not our topic

there is some harsh accuse here, which is the despotic and, most of all, illegal foreign politics regime. the whstelblowing of reserved chronicles is lighter, and also different, topic.

mafia state and russian regime has been aided by these regents, it is not whistleblowing that has made mafia occupying russia, and russian state corrupting others.

it is that same people, feeding the foreign mafia state for their own insulse wealth, and then they use their same creature, as a knife against pluralism.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Assange and his organisation showed minimal concern for the people they persuaded to feed them information or for the safety of officials whose identities would be threatened by their careless information incontinence. He is a narcissistic twat who acts only to aggrandize himself, and if by some bizarre chain of events he happens to experience some enhanced interrogation techniques oh well shit happens.

[Phoenicaea]

^ i don t debate this. even if nascisistic and hustle, we face corrupt government deeds, wars waged shouting 'terrorism', and treating citizens as they were cattle. illegal.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Assange and his organisation showed minimal concern for the people they persuaded to feed them information or for the safety of officials whose identities would be threatened by their careless information incontinence. He is a narcissistic twat who acts only to aggrandize himself, and if by some bizarre chain of events he happens to experience some enhanced interrogation techniques oh well shit happens.

Wouldn't most of the people he exposed be spies though?

[Purgatio]

Assange and his organisation showed minimal concern for the people they persuaded to feed them information or for the safety of officials whose identities would be threatened by their careless information incontinence. He is a narcissistic twat who acts only to aggrandize himself, and if by some bizarre chain of events he happens to experience some enhanced interrogation techniques oh well shit happens.

Don't forget the rape and anti-Semitism.

And the fact that Assange fans have this bizarre habit of rape apologism and explaining why its not rape to take off a condom halfway through sex even after your partner explicitly tells you she'll only sleep with you if it's protected.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Assange and his organisation showed minimal concern for the people they persuaded to feed them information or for the safety of officials whose identities would be threatened by their careless information incontinence. He is a narcissistic twat who acts only to aggrandize himself, and if by some bizarre chain of events he happens to experience some enhanced interrogation techniques oh well shit happens.

Don't forget the rape and anti-Semitism.

And the fact that Assange fans have this bizarre habit of rape apologism and explaining why its not rape to take off a condom halfway through sex even after your partner explicitly tells you she'll only sleep with you if it's protected.

The post is far too far back to quote it but I've already said what I needed to say on the subject. He should be charged for the rape case, in Sweden, and only for the rape case, and only in Sweden.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Don't we have a specific thread for Fugitive Assange?

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Tulip bubble when?

[Souseiseki]

Labour 32% (-8)

Conservatives 28% (-14)

Lib Dems 11% (+4)

Brexit Party 8% (+8)

UKIP 6% (+4)

CUK 3% (+3)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

that's some nasty vote splitting there. real bad spoiler effect. but not to worry, heh heh, old sous has exactly what you need to navigate this rough patch.