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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
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Hunt
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Javid
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Johnson
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31%
Raab
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9%
Stewart
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42%
 
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:37 am

Souseiseki wrote:it seems like pollsters are starting to settle on CHUK so that they don't have to say CUK. of course, the fact they're using something as unweildly and unnatural as CHUK only serves to remind people why they did this in the first place.


Nah, they're cucks. This is how British politics works. Tory, Whig, Socialist, Cuck. They just have to accept they're cucks now and embrace that label with pride. It's their own silly fault for naming their party something so ridiculous.

They just have to hope that in 100 years (if they last that long, which they wont), it'll be a trivia question.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:39 am

Souseiseki wrote:it seems like pollsters are starting to settle on CHUK so that they don't have to say CUK. of course, the fact they're using something as unweildly and unnatural as CHUK only serves to remind people why they did this in the first place.

If they're going to use the first two letters of "Change" I say they do that consistently for the whole name.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:39 am

Kowani wrote:
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And that this arrogance is almost directly responsible for the opium wars.

Historical revisionism at its finest.


Absolutely not. A trade mission from Britain was treated like a tribute mission with a snarky letter in response, they were arrogant to the diplomat, and so on. The reason they didn't want to trade is that they thought Britain was inferior and they needed nothing they had to offer.
They learned better soon enough.

If they hadn't been arrogant they'd have traded for weapons and so on, which some of the advisors to the emperor said they should be doing, instead he was like "Nah bru, i'm a god on earth, fuck these tribute baring barbarians.".

Opium was only turned to as a result of a severe trade deficit. They COULD have been more down to earth and been like "Actually yeah, trade weapons and machinery with us." instead of "Nothing you have could possibly be of any use to our superior civilization." and the British going "Okay fuck it, Opium it is."
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Postby Kowani » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:46 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Kowani wrote:Historical revisionism at its finest.


Absolutely not. A trade mission from Britain was treated like a tribute mission with a snarky letter in response, they were arrogant to the diplomat, and so on. The reason they didn't want to trade is that they thought Britain was inferior and they needed nothing they had to offer.
They learned better soon enough.

If they hadn't been arrogant they'd have traded for weapons and so on, which some of the advisors to the emperor said they should be doing, instead he was like "Nah bru, i'm a god on earth, fuck these tribute baring barbarians.".

Opium was only turned to as a result of a severe trade deficit. They COULD have been more down to earth and been like "Actually yeah, trade weapons and machinery with us." instead of "Nothing you have could possibly be of any use to our superior civilization." and the British going "Okay fuck it, Opium it is."[/Surprisingly enough, when you don’t actually need anything being traded, the reasons you have to accept said trade drops.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:48 am

Kowani wrote: Surprisingly enough, when you don’t actually need anything being traded, the reasons you have to accept said trade drops.


The result of the war demonstrates that they did, in fact, need some of the things being traded.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:22 pm

I wonder how long an extension Theresa will ask for at the end of October.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:29 pm

With the extension to October I might just make use of it and visit Scotland. What should I see besides Edinburgh. Is Aberdeen worth it? Glasgow?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:33 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:With the extension to October I might just make use of it and visit Scotland. What should I see besides Edinburgh. Is Aberdeen worth it? Glasgow?

Telegrams are welcome on the subject :)

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:39 pm

Whisky distilleries are interesting to visit.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:42 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:With the extension to October I might just make use of it and visit Scotland. What should I see besides Edinburgh. Is Aberdeen worth it? Glasgow?

Telegrams are welcome on the subject :)


Highlands, imo 2nd most beautiful place in the world behind North Wales.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:44 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:With the extension to October I might just make use of it and visit Scotland. What should I see besides Edinburgh. Is Aberdeen worth it? Glasgow?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:With the extension to October I might just make use of it and visit Scotland. What should I see besides Edinburgh. Is Aberdeen worth it? Glasgow?

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Don't ask how haggis is made.


I am vegetarian, I am not interested in that :)

Also, after Scotland, Wales will be the only British nation that I haven't visited. For a reason ;)
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:48 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Don't ask how haggis is made.


I am vegetarian, I am not interested in that :)

Also, after Scotland, Wales will be the only British nation that I haven't visited. For a reason ;)

Don't worry, Wales doesn't count.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:50 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:With the extension to October I might just make use of it and visit Scotland. What should I see besides Edinburgh. Is Aberdeen worth it? Glasgow?

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It will be September probably when I visit. Is that still the season?
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:00 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Take midge-spray!


It will be September probably when I visit. Is that still the season?

Little fuckers'll probably cling on until you arrive. Better safe than sorry.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:02 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Take midge-spray!


It will be September probably when I visit. Is that still the season?


I was once eaten alive at the end of August, so probably.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:03 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
It will be September probably when I visit. Is that still the season?

Little fuckers'll probably cling on until you arrive. Better safe than sorry.


Yeah, my blood is A+ :(
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Postby Nimzonia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:04 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:Also, after Scotland, Wales will be the only British nation that I haven't visited. For a reason ;)


I'm visiting Wales this summer. It has some of the best castles anywhere. As far as I'm concerned, Caernarfon is second only to Krak des Chevaliers in all the world.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:16 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Little fuckers'll probably cling on until you arrive. Better safe than sorry.


Yeah, my blood is A+ :(

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:37 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Take midge-spray!


It will be September probably when I visit. Is that still the season?

I wouldn't worry about it if you avoid the Highlands.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:53 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Don't ask how haggis is made.


I am vegetarian, I am not interested in that :)

Also, after Scotland, Wales will be the only British nation that I haven't visited. For a reason ;)


20 years ago, I used to spend my summers working on archaeology sites in Wales.

Every three weeks we would have a lamb roast; hmmmmm, tasty sheep.

What was the reason you didn't want to visit Wales again?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:53 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
It will be September probably when I visit. Is that still the season?

I wouldn't worry about it if you avoid the Highlands.


What's the point of going to Scotland and avoiding the Highlands though? They're the best bit.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:56 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
I am vegetarian, I am not interested in that :)

Also, after Scotland, Wales will be the only British nation that I haven't visited. For a reason ;)


20 years ago, I used to spend my summers working on archaeology sites in Wales.

Every three weeks we would have a lamb roast; hmmmmm, tasty sheep.

What was the reason you didn't want to visit Wales again?


Not knowing where to (not) go mostly. I tend to stay in cities, given my lack of car driving skills. And in Wales I only know about Cardiff, and I have no clue if that is worth visiting. From Scotland I at least know that Edinburgh is.

And Dundee ;)
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:58 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
20 years ago, I used to spend my summers working on archaeology sites in Wales.

Every three weeks we would have a lamb roast; hmmmmm, tasty sheep.

What was the reason you didn't want to visit Wales again?


Not knowing where to (not) go mostly. I tend to stay in cities, given my lack of car driving skills. And in Wales I only know about Cardiff, and I have no clue if that is worth visiting. From Scotland I at least know that Edinburgh is.

And Dundee ;)


Been to North Wales a few times on holiday as my other half has family out that way.

Go. Seriously, you won't regret it, it is stunningly beautiful.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:04 pm

Caracasus wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Not knowing where to (not) go mostly. I tend to stay in cities, given my lack of car driving skills. And in Wales I only know about Cardiff, and I have no clue if that is worth visiting. From Scotland I at least know that Edinburgh is.

And Dundee ;)


Been to North Wales a few times on holiday as my other half has family out that way.

Go. Seriously, you won't regret it, it is stunningly beautiful.


Snowdonia?

TG me with suggestions. Though I only plan Scotland for now, Wales will take longer I guess.
But let's not distract it too much. It's still about politics here.

On that note, which politician should I try to make a selfie with in Holyrood? :p
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