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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
5
4%
Hunt
11
9%
Javid
5
4%
Johnson
37
31%
Raab
11
9%
Stewart
50
42%
 
Total votes : 119

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Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:10 am

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Remember, we live in a post-racism society and anyone who complains about discrimination is just a snowflake SJW.


>criticising anyone who is black is now racism

remember cis white men, you can only criticise other ciswhites.

You can criticise Diane Abbott as much as you like. But when you imply that she can understand Jamaican patois but not standard English despite the fact that she has a Cambridge history degree then yes, that's racism pure and simple.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:16 am

Caracasus wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:But also it wouldn't be worse, which makes it something to be considered.

No, it could be worse. I mean, at the moment people aren't rioting. Plus, the army would still have to sort out Brexit.

Should be simple, given how they won't have to get a majority vote for it. And let's face it, riots are going to be inevitable anyway. Might as well get a headstart by rolling out the Challenger II MBTs into the streets.


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Postby Greater Loegria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:17 am

Caracasus wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:But also it wouldn't be worse, which makes it something to be considered.


No, it could be worse. I mean, at the moment people aren't rioting. Plus, the army would still have to sort out Brexit.

Army, navy and airforce.
Just nuke Brussels tbh.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:17 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Caracasus wrote:No, it could be worse. I mean, at the moment people aren't rioting. Plus, the army would still have to sort out Brexit.

Should be simple, given how they won't have to get a majority vote for it. And let's face it, riots are going to be inevitable anyway. Might as well get a headstart by rolling out the Challenger II MBTs into the streets.


If the riots are done by the natives, are they then call patRiots? :unsure:
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:19 am

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Remember, we live in a post-racism society and anyone who complains about discrimination is just a snowflake SJW.


>criticising anyone who is black is now racism

remember cis white men, you can only criticise other ciswhites.

I'd explain why what you said wasn't criticism, but you probably wouldn't understand unless I translated it into Polish.
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:03 am

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
>criticising anyone who is black is now racism

remember cis white men, you can only criticise other ciswhites.

I'd explain why what you said wasn't criticism, but you probably wouldn't understand unless I translated it into Polish.


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Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
>criticising anyone who is black is now racism

remember cis white men, you can only criticise other ciswhites.

You can criticise Diane Abbott as much as you like. But when you imply that she can understand Jamaican patois but not standard English despite the fact that she has a Cambridge history degree then yes, that's racism pure and simple.


I didn't imply, I said it forthright.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:29 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
No, it could be worse. I mean, at the moment people aren't rioting. Plus, the army would still have to sort out Brexit.

Army, navy and airforce.
Just nuke Brussels tbh.

Brussels is not to blame for this whole Brexit mess. If you feel the desire to punish the culprits, bomb Westminster.


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:39 am

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:47 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
No, it could be worse. I mean, at the moment people aren't rioting. Plus, the army would still have to sort out Brexit.

Army, navy and airforce.
Just nuke Brussels tbh.

Picking a fight with NATO is one way to make Brexit less of a priority.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:48 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
No, it could be worse. I mean, at the moment people aren't rioting. Plus, the army would still have to sort out Brexit.

Army, navy and airforce.
Just nuke Brussels tbh.

The EU has nukes though, and a combined military power greater than the UK
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:17 am

If anyone has a non-paywalled version of this, please share it, but the government is now preparing to participate in the EU elections as a contingency: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/preparations-for-european-elections-under-way-rg972ksmm?fbclid=IwAR15tYytez2HjsVTRkiFJ1G2W3YFs8vg6KE6CWLDgVC_5ZEEElQWG9flU2M
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:24 am

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:27 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235

I want to get off Mrs. May's Wild Ride. :(

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:27 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235

Well, that was to be expected. But will it be enough time to save the British from themselves?


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Postby Chan Island » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235

I want to get off Mrs. May's Wild Ride. :(


The ride never ends.

Greater Loegria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
No, it could be worse. I mean, at the moment people aren't rioting. Plus, the army would still have to sort out Brexit.

Army, navy and airforce.
Just nuke Brussels tbh.


Unless this guy gets in charge, in which case I think living as a hermit for 10 years in the Scottish highlands is the safest possible place to watch the mushroom clouds from.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:32 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235


They should pass a law forbidding any more votes on Mays deal, that may finally get the point across that parliament isn’t going to vote for her terrible deal. And no more delays, Brexit or no Brexit!
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Postby Duhon » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:36 am

Ifreann wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235

I want to get off Mrs. May's Wild Ride. :(


Correction: it's Mr. Cameronthe British nation's wild ride.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235

I want to get off Mrs. May's Wild Ride. :(

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I want to get off Mrs May's Wild Ride....
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:43 am

Seems like an admission of failure to me. I can't see her lasting long now.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:46 am

Theresa May will ask the EU for an extension to the Brexit deadline to "break the logjam" in Parliament.

Logjam? Well, I suppose that is accurate, as Parliament is kinda like a toilet in need of the coathanger treatment...
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:07 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235

Brexit is over. At this point the EU is eventually going to demand that the UK revoke A50 in order to get an extension
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:52 pm

So basically at two minutes to midnight the leaders of the two largest parties in a hung parliament are finally going to sit down and see if there's an option they can both live with. Sounds like that would have been a pretty good plan immediately after that hung parliament was elected, but what do I know?

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A longer delay. Great plan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47794235

Brexit is over. At this point the EU is eventually going to demand that the UK revoke A50 in order to get an extension

That makes no sense, though. Revoking Article 50 means there is nothing to extend any more.

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Postby Nimzonia » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:07 pm

Uan aa Boa wrote:So basically at two minutes to midnight the leaders of the two largest parties in a hung parliament are finally going to sit down and see if there's an option they can both live with. Sounds like that would have been a pretty good plan immediately after that hung parliament was elected, but what do I know?


But who back then would have thought that bribing the Ulster Medieval party wouldn't work out?

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Postby Greater Loegria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:13 pm

Nimzonia wrote:
Uan aa Boa wrote:So basically at two minutes to midnight the leaders of the two largest parties in a hung parliament are finally going to sit down and see if there's an option they can both live with. Sounds like that would have been a pretty good plan immediately after that hung parliament was elected, but what do I know?


But who back then would have thought that bribing the Ulster Medieval party wouldn't work out?

No reason as to why it oughn't to have.
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