UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[The Huskar Social Union]

Amidst this chaos there can be no ORDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH


Like seriously, this government is a fucking mess. Damn them all call another election

Parliament will have vote on that one

Fuck that, drive a tank at the bastards and smash the gates down.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Has parliament ever rejected adjournment?

[Great Nepal]

customs union without single market is actually really fucking dumb and you should never actually go for it

No deal is the real Brexit that most people voted for.

Literally no one was talking about no deal as a reasonable, let alone desirable outcome until after May started her 'no deal is better than bad deal' rhetoric.

Fucking Express published article written by Farage with headline "Farage on Friday: Britain would not only survive but THRIVE out of the EU" where he wrote "European countries outside the EU like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are currently thriving because they are not encumbered by Euro bailout costs, and extortionate EU membership fees."

[Nimzonia]

customs union without single market is actually really fucking dumb and you should never actually go for it

No deal is the real Brexit that most people voted for.

The last poll I can find suggests that public support for no deal is around 35%. Not exactly what I'd call "most".

[Greater vakolicci haven]

No deal is the real Brexit that most people voted for.

Literally no one was talking about no deal as a reasonable, let alone desirable outcome until after May started her 'no deal is better than bad deal' rhetoric.

Fucking Express published article written by Farage with headline "Farage on Friday: Britain would not only survive but THRIVE out of the EU" where he wrote "European countries outside the EU like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are currently thriving because they are not encumbered by Euro bailout costs, and extortionate EU membership fees."

I have personally always supported a no deal Brexit. That Farage said what he said is disappointing, but not exactly surprising, I have lost a lot of respect for him in recent years and this just underlines why.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

No deal is the real Brexit that most people voted for.

The last poll I can find suggests that public support for no deal is around 35%. Not exactly what I'd call "most".

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

[The New California Republic]

customs union without single market is actually really fucking dumb and you should never actually go for it

No deal is the real Brexit that most people voted for.

No it fucking isn't. You claimed that last time and offered no proof. I'm guessing that it's going to be the same this time.

[Vassenor]

No deal is the real Brexit that most people voted for.

The last poll I can find suggests that public support for no deal is around 35%. Not exactly what I'd call "most".

Feels before facts though.

[The New California Republic]

The last poll I can find suggests that public support for no deal is around 35%. Not exactly what I'd call "most".

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

Prove that. Please.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The last poll I can find suggests that public support for no deal is around 35%. Not exactly what I'd call "most".

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

Do you have evidence for this?

[Alyakia]

The last poll I can find suggests that public support for no deal is around 35%. Not exactly what I'd call "most".

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

1) doubt
2) unless it's literally 95-100% of brexit supporters then it doesn't matter because the combined remain + against no deal remain is higher than no deal wecome to brexit deadlock hell

[Vassenor]

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

Do you have evidence for this?

Because allegedly Cameron said that No Deal was the only viable outcome before the referendum, ergo everyone who voted Leave voted for that. And no-one voted Leave as a protest vote expecting it to lose, because that's inconvenient for the narrative.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

Prove that. Please.

52 % of people voted for Brexit. If 35 % of the total supported no deal, unless there has been a major shift from remain to no deal (unlikely) it appears as if the majority who voted for Brexit support no deal.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

*takes deep breath*

Ahahahahahahahahaha! Burn, country, burn! Reject everything! Chaos and deadlocks forever!

*cries inside*

[Fartsniffage]

The last poll I can find suggests that public support for no deal is around 35%. Not exactly what I'd call "most".

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

Unless you can show that the number of leave voters who wanted a no deal Brexit outnumbers the total remain vote then this point is utter bollocks.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Prove that. Please.

52 % of people voted for Brexit. If 35 % of the total supported no deal, unless there has been a major shift from remain to no deal (unlikely) it appears as if the majority who voted for Brexit support no deal.

Do you have some evidence that you can link to for this?

[The New California Republic]

Prove that. Please.

52 % of people voted for Brexit. If 35 % of the total supported no deal, unless there has been a major shift from remain to no deal (unlikely) it appears as if the majority who voted for Brexit support no deal.

Prove that, don't just throw random numbers around.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

52 % of people voted for Brexit. If 35 % of the total supported no deal, unless there has been a major shift from remain to no deal (unlikely) it appears as if the majority who voted for Brexit support no deal.

Prove that, don't just throw random numbers around.

The post slightly above mine quoted a poll suggesting support for no deal was around 35 %.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I should have phrased it better. That most people voted for when they voted for Brexit, i.e. that most Brexit supporters voted for.

Unless you can show that the number of leave voters who wanted a no deal Brexit outnumbers the total remain vote then this point is utter bollocks.

Not really, remain has already lost. The choice now is between two different forms of Brexit.

[The New California Republic]

Prove that, don't just throw random numbers around.

The post slightly above mine quoted a poll suggesting support for no deal was around 35 %.

Show me the evidence.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The post slightly above mine quoted a poll suggesting support for no deal was around 35 %.

Show me the evidence.

Unless the poster of the poll wishes to link to it, I'll go looking.

[Vassenor]

Prove that. Please.

52 % of people voted for Brexit. If 35 % of the total supported no deal, unless there has been a major shift from remain to no deal (unlikely) it appears as if the majority who voted for Brexit support no deal.

So what you're saying is that more people voted Remain than support a No Deal.

By your logic then we should be Remaining.

[Alyakia]

Unless you can show that the number of leave voters who wanted a no deal Brexit outnumbers the total remain vote then this point is utter bollocks.

Not really, remain has already lost. The choice now is between two different forms of Brexit.

48% + 35% of 52% is higher than 65% of 52%, which means no deal isn't happening. and since 65% of 52% is also a minority their deal cannot happen either.

you cannot just fucking ignore 48% of the country btw

[Fartsniffage]

Unless you can show that the number of leave voters who wanted a no deal Brexit outnumbers the total remain vote then this point is utter bollocks.

Not really, remain has already lost. The choice now is between two different forms of Brexit.

Did all the remain voters suddenly disappear? If you want to make arguments based on public opinion for any of the options available then remain would win hands down because they all held a single opinion and not the split opinions in the leave camp.

[Great Nepal]

Literally no one was talking about no deal as a reasonable, let alone desirable outcome until after May started her 'no deal is better than bad deal' rhetoric.

Fucking Express published article written by Farage with headline "Farage on Friday: Britain would not only survive but THRIVE out of the EU" where he wrote "European countries outside the EU like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are currently thriving because they are not encumbered by Euro bailout costs, and extortionate EU membership fees."

I have personally always supported a no deal Brexit. That Farage said what he said is disappointing, but not exactly surprising, I have lost a lot of respect for him in recent years and this just underlines why.

I dont doubt there are people who have wanted to leave without a deal since before refendum, but given Express was putting out that type of article I doubt that was anywhere above a fringe view. Similar to the group that wanted UK to leave so it can unilaterally drop all tariffs so goods are cheaper - internally consistent but unlikely to have been a major force.