UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Caracasus]

We're going to hit no deal. And then on the 30th everyone is going to wake up with a hangover and start looking back over the last 3 years like they drunk text their ex.

Are we still going to be allowed to have drunken remorseful sex with our ex?

And now I've got a mental image of May pissed out of her skull, sitting on the floor of a wetherspoon's toilet trying to remember Tusk's number. Thanks for that...

[The Blaatschapen]

We're going to hit no deal. And then on the 30th everyone is going to wake up with a hangover and start looking back over the last 3 years like they drunk text their ex.

Are we still going to be allowed to have drunken remorseful sex with our ex?

Nah.

We won't consent.

We will find sexier partners.

Or you, know, masturbate, since we're 27 countries, that's an orgy anyway.

[The Archregimancy]

Are we still going to be allowed to have drunken remorseful sex with our ex?

Nah.

We won't consent.

We will find sexier partners.

There are no sexier partners. You need us for sex, because most of your sex is with us. Once you realise just how much you need us, you'll come back to us begging to have sex with us. We hold all the cards when it comes to who you'll want to have sex with. And if not? Better to have no sex than to have bad sex.

I think we might have managed to get Ireland pregnant, though; she's showing a bulge around Belfast. It's a bit embarrassing. Can you help us with that?

[The Blaatschapen]

Nah.

We won't consent.

We will find sexier partners.

There are no sexier partners. You need us for sex, because most of your sex is with us. Once you realise just how much you need us, you'll come back to us begging to have sex with us. We hold all the cards when it comes to who you'll want to have sex with. And if not? Better to have no sex than to have bad sex.

I think we might have managed to get Ireland pregnant, though; she's showing a bulge around Belfast. It's a bit embarrassing. Can you help us with that?

Are you asking us for a battle of the bulge?

[The Archregimancy]

Well Jezza walked out of a meeting like a teenager because somebody who doesn't like him is there. It's all rather surreal at the moment. I don't think drunk texting cuts it lol.

Nice to see someone didn't bother to do reading around the subject and just swallowed the media narrative uncritically.

But maybe you can explain what right CU had to be in that meeting that was explicitly for party leaders when he is not the leader of TIG and TIG are very insistent that they are not a party.

Because anyone who criticises Jeremy Corbyn is an unthinking automaton who uncritically buys into a 'media narrative'.

Which is, of course, arrant nonsense.

Jeremy Corbyn has spent weeks telling us he wants cross-party engagement, yet when he gets invited into a meeting with one other party leader, the House of Commons representatives of three other parties, and the official spokesman of a recently formed bloc of independent MPs that represents more MPs than Plaid Cymru - who were also present - he walks out because he doesn't like Chuka Umunna.

If nothing else, the optics are terrible. It makes it look as if Corbyn - just like May - is placing party above country, and that his dislike of the TiGers and is more important than future of the country. It makes him look like a rank hypocrite; not that he needs much help on the latter.

It's true that the meeting was pointless (though apparently at least polite), and that May spent the entire time reiterating the same tired arguments in favour of her deal, but walking out because Umunna was there was an unnecessary self-inflicted injury on Corbyn's part; and his propensity for the latter helps explain why he has a -50% approval rating.

No amount of complaining about media narratives is going to turn Corbyn into a competent and effective party leader. Which is an entirely separate point from whether his politics are in any way admirable.


Also, for the purposes of pedantry, the SNP leader (Nicola Sturgeon), the Plaid Cymru leader (Adam Price) and the Green party leaders (Jonathan Bartley and Siân Berry) weren't at the meeting; Vince Cable was the only party leader other than Jeremy Corbyn present - though it's true that Liz Saville-Roberts, Ian Blackford, and Caroline Lucas were representing recognised parties, and lead their party groups at Westminster (Lucas by default).

[The New California Republic]

Nah.

We won't consent.

We will find sexier partners.

There are no sexier partners. You need us for sex, because most of your sex is with us. Once you realise just how much you need us, you'll come back to us begging to have sex with us. We hold all the cards when it comes to who you'll want to have sex with. And if not? Better to have no sex than to have bad sex.

I think we might have managed to get Ireland pregnant, though; she's showing a bulge around Belfast. It's a bit embarrassing. Can you help us with that?

I was going to ask if it's too late to abort, but since the baby is due next week then I'm guessing that it is.

[The Blaatschapen]

Nice to see someone didn't bother to do reading around the subject and just swallowed the media narrative uncritically.

But maybe you can explain what right CU had to be in that meeting that was explicitly for party leaders when he is not the leader of TIG and TIG are very insistent that they are not a party.

Because anyone who criticises Jeremy Corbyn is an unthinking automaton who uncritically buys into a 'media narrative'.

Which is, of course, arrant nonsense.

Jeremy Corbyn has spent weeks telling us he wants cross-party engagement, yet when he gets invited into a meeting with one other party leader, the House of Commons representatives of three other parties, and the official spokesman of a recently formed bloc of independent MPs that represents more MPs than Plaid Cymru - who were also present - he walks out because he doesn't like Chuka Umunna.

If nothing else, the optics are terrible. It makes it look as if Corbyn - just like May - is placing party above country, and that his dislike of the TiGers and is more important than future of the country. It makes him look like a rank hypocrite; not that he needs much help on the latter.

It's true that the meeting was pointless (though apparently at least polite), and that May spent the entire time reiterating the same tired arguments in favour of her deal, but walking out because Umunna was there was an unnecessary self-inflicted injury on Corbyn's part; and his propensity for the latter helps explain why he has a -50% approval rating.

No amount of complaining about media narratives is going to turn Corbyn into a competent and effective party leader. Which is an entirely separate point from whether his politics are in any way admirable.


Also, for the purposes of pedantry, the SNP leader (Nicola Sturgeon), the Plaid Cymru leader (Adam Price) and the Green party leaders (Jonathan Bartley and Siân Berry) weren't at the meeting; Vince Cable was the only party leader other than Jeremy Corbyn present - though it's true that Liz Saville-Roberts, Ian Blackford, and Caroline Lucas were representing recognised parties, and lead their party groups at Westminster (Lucas by default).

Soooo....

Corbyn got TIGgered?

[Vassenor]

Welp, looks like the Petitions site has crashed.

EDIT: And it's back. 710,849 signatures.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Welp, looks like the Petitions site has crashed.

EDIT: And it's back. 710,849 signatures.

I'm wondering if this is the fastest growing petition they have ever had. Signatures are being added at an extraordinary rate.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Self-interested woman waffles disingenuously for years to keep position, never asked public what type of Brexit they want, claims to be on the side of "the people".

If nothing else she gets points for chutzpah.

[Andsed]

Welp, looks like the Petitions site has crashed.

EDIT: And it's back. 710,849 signatures.

I'm wondering if this is the fastest growing petition they have ever had. Signatures are being added at an extraordinary rate.

Yeah they are. I think at this point Brexit is just becoming an fantasy.

[Novus America]

I'm wondering if this is the fastest growing petition they have ever had. Signatures are being added at an extraordinary rate.

Yeah they are. I think at this point Brexit is just becoming an fantasy.

It is already know that a very large number of people are against it.
Online petitions are useless though and not a provider of good statistical information.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Yeah they are. I think at this point Brexit is just becoming an fantasy.

It is already know that a very large number of people are against it.
Online petitions are useless though and not a provider of good statistical information.

It is parliament's own site, and it is interesting mainly as a reaction to May's announcement last night. Her statement/performance has gone down like a lead balloon. Blaming everyone but herself has left her even more isolated.

Any petition on the site that gets 10,000 signatories has to get a government response, one that reaches 100,000 gets a parliamentary debate. This one will have hit a million by lunchtime.

[Novus America]

It is already know that a very large number of people are against it.
Online petitions are useless though and not a provider of good statistical information.

It is parliament's own site, and it is interesting mainly as a reaction to May's announcement last night. Her statement/performance has gone down like a lead balloon. Blaming everyone but herself has left her even more isolated.

Sure her performance no doubt has, but still online petitions are a very poor way of measuring publicly opinion.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

It is parliament's own site, and it is interesting mainly as a reaction to May's announcement last night. Her statement/performance has gone down like a lead balloon. Blaming everyone but herself has left her even more isolated.

Sure her performance no doubt has, but still online petitions are a very poor way of measuring publicly opinion.

But still one that parliament uses.

[Andsed]

Yeah they are. I think at this point Brexit is just becoming an fantasy.

It is already know that a very large number of people are against it.
Online petitions are useless though and not a provider of good statistical information.

Okay? Fair enough I guess but that does not really change anything I said.

[The Huskar Social Union]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

[Andsed]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

So the Troubles 2 Electric Boogaloo when? But speaking of Ireland seeing as it and Northern Ireland are one of the major reasons Brexit is such a shit show has anyone brought up an idea on how to deal with that issue without causing the troubles to flare up again?

[Novus America]

Sure her performance no doubt has, but still online petitions are a very poor way of measuring publicly opinion.

But still one that parliament uses.

Parliament doing something does not make it smart.
In fact quite the opposite...

[The Huskar Social Union]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

So the Troubles 2 Electric Boogaloo when? But speaking of Ireland seeing as it and Northern Ireland are one of the major reasons Brexit is such a shit show has anyone brought up an idea on how to deal with that issue without causing the troubles to flare up again?

Set up a sea border between NI and the rest of the UK. But the DUP dont want that and they are too busy pegging the tories for it to happen anyway.

[Chan Island]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

1) I'm surprised this wasn't Boris Johnson.

2) This guy's logic is the sort that needs it's own label.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

Well, in for a penny...

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

But still one that parliament uses.

Parliament doing something does not make it smart.
In fact quite the opposite...

The point is will it be paid attention to. Is your understanding of British politics so limited that you do not get that?

[Novus America]

Parliament doing something does not make it smart.
In fact quite the opposite...

The point is will it be paid attention to. Is your understanding of British politics so limited that you do not get that?

Do you really think this one petition will actually change the way Parliament views Brexit?

That suddenly Parliament will become united around remain because of some online petition?

The hard remainders will wave it about, nobody else will care.

[Thermodolia]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

Ah yes let’s invade the nation that’s apart of a group that has our greatest rivals as members and one of them has a nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

Just brilliant.

Oh let’s not forget that the diaspora of said nation we want to invade kinda has some very powerful people in the worlds superpower