UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

all i want is a red, white and blue brexit with blue passports

why is that so hard

[Ostroeuropa]

It caps out at 18% given recent turbulence, but usually hovers around 7-10%.

Welsh bitches need some papa palpatine in their lives. That number is way too low. Come on ostro whip them into shape.

I'd personally run on a more power platform and rely on westminister ineptitude and incompetence to not understand the full implications of the powers I was demanding, which i'd use to legalize drugs and prostittution, regulate them, and tax them, while telling westminister their hysterics over that sounded like "An English problem.", then rely on the economic boom to fund a bunch of bollocks.

Nationalize buses and so on, and under the welsh government corporation doing so, begin buying up English utilities and transport systems just to troll conservatives, and if they whine about it point out the german government already owns a bunch anyway so nvm.

Then rinse the bastards so they end up subsidizing wales and keep telling them they should nationalize it and we'd be willing to sell it back to them for the price we bought it for out of patriotic spirit but until they do their tickets and utility bills are paying for a massive statue of Aneuryin Bevan kicking Thatcher in the cunt to be built over the severn bridge.

The Welsh government already nationalized the airports and made them turn a tidy profit.

We could even mindfuck them by having trains to and from wales cost far less and not engage in profiteering on them to fuel economics even more.

[The Huskar Social Union]

all i want is a red, white and blue brexit with blue passports

why is that so hard

Because your government are a bunch of incompetent morons.

[The Blaatschapen]

Which, doesn't exist since France is a republic and hasn't had a king since the 19th century.

Except that the President of France is a monarch by right.

The President of France is always co-prince of Andorra, alongside the Bishop of Urgell.

Which is not a king title.

And it's always nice to co-rule a tax haven. You can easily embezzle funds that way.

[The Archregimancy]

UKIP call for referendum to scrap assembly in 2024

Like we need more referenda.

It's worth repeating what Clement Attlee said about the use of referendums in UK politics:

"I could not consent to the introduction into our national life of a device so alien to all our traditions as the referendum which has only too often been the instrument of Nazism and Fascism."

It's not an intentional Godwin by Attlee; it's simply the historical context that he was familiar with. But even if the specific comparison with Nazism might make us uncomfortable in 2019, Attlee was absolutely right that the referendum is alien to the Westminster system of government as practiced in the UK.

Australia has had some success with a referendum mechanism, but that mechanism is written into the formal Australian constitution. In the UK system, they're a recipe for disaster. I've previously raised the need for a referendum bill to formalise both the circumstances under which a referendum can be called at the national level in the UK, and the manner in which a referendum can be held to be binding on Parliament (not, I stress, how a referendum is held, which remains a matter for the Electoral Commission).

Note that this isn't an argument for or against the result of the 2016 referendum; only an argument that we need better rules on the role of a referendum in UK law - though the impact of the 2016 referendum helps demonstrate why this is necessary.

[Ifreann]

all i want is a red, white and blue brexit with blue passports

why is that so hard

Because that first part doesn't mean anything.

[The Archregimancy]

Except that the President of France is a monarch by right.

The President of France is always co-prince of Andorra, alongside the Bishop of Urgell.

Which is not a king title.

No it isn't; but nor did I say that it was. I merely noted that the President of France is a monarch by right as Co-Prince of Andorra.

Though, as a point of historical interest, it is the last regal title of the Kings of France to be actively used by the current French head of state. The Kings of France inherited the co-principality via the Kings of Navarre, specifically when Henri III of Navarre became Henri IV of France.

[The Archregimancy]

all i want is a red, white and blue brexit with blue passports

why is that so hard

Because your government are a bunch of incompetent morons.

Well, in fairness it's not Trumptonium's government, is it?

Though perhaps you're deliberating characterising the Polish government as a 'a bunch of incompetent morons'?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Which is not a king title.

No it isn't; but nor did I say that it was. I merely noted that the President of France is a monarch by right as Co-Prince of Andorra.

Though, as a point of historical interest, it is the last regal title of the Kings of France to be actively used by the current French head of state. The Kings of France inherited the co-principality via the Kings of Navarre, specifically when Henri III of Navarre became Henri IV of France.

The president of France should switch his primary title then.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Because your government are a bunch of incompetent morons.

Well, in fairness it's not Trumptonium's government, is it?

Though perhaps you're deliberating characterising the Polish government as a 'a bunch of incompetent morons'?

Well... he lives in the UK and has british citizenship? Least i think he does.


Also... maybe? Im not that familiar with them.

[The New California Republic]

Because your government are a bunch of incompetent morons.

Well, in fairness it's not Trumptonium's government, is it?

Though perhaps you're deliberating characterising the Polish government as a 'a bunch of incompetent morons'?

He lives on the south coast of England...

[The Archregimancy]

Well, in fairness it's not Trumptonium's government, is it?

Though perhaps you're deliberating characterising the Polish government as a 'a bunch of incompetent morons'?

Well... he lives in the UK and has british citizenship? Least i think he does.


Also... maybe? Im not that familiar with them.

I wasn't aware he had UK citizenship; if so, I stand corrected.

He lives on the south coast of England...

I know where he spends his time.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Well... he lives in the UK and has british citizenship? Least i think he does.


Also... maybe? Im not that familiar with them.

I wasn't aware he had UK citizenship; if so, I stand corrected.

He lives on the south coast of England...

I know where he spends his time.

If I remember correctly his original signature said 'UK citizen originally from Poland' or something of that sort.

[Ifreann]

Which is not a king title.

No it isn't; but nor did I say that it was. I merely noted that the President of France is a monarch by right as Co-Prince of Andorra.

Though, as a point of historical interest, it is the last regal title of the Kings of France to be actively used by the current French head of state. The Kings of France inherited the co-principality via the Kings of Navarre, specifically when Henri III of Navarre became Henri IV of France.

If he's a co-prince, is that really a monarch? I mean. There's two of them. Wouldn't that be a duarch or biarch or something?

[The New California Republic]

He lives on the south coast of England...

I know where he spends his time.

There is a slightly creepy tone to that.

[Vassenor]

Maybe it happened a long time ago and I wasn't paying attention, but it looks like the Telegraph is now completely indistinguishable from the Daily Mail.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/19/donald-trump-junior-says-theresa-may-should-have-taken-his-fathers-brexit-advice/

Complete with frothing, deranged comments section. All they need now is 500 links to idiotic celebrity gossip in the sidebar, and we might as well rename it to the Mailegraph.

Apologies for linking to something written by Donald Trump Jr and reminding everyone of his continued existence.

"500 links to idiotic celebrity gossip in the sidebar" kind of sums up the Hurleygraph days.

[Ifreann]

I wasn't aware he had UK citizenship; if so, I stand corrected.




I know where he spends his time.

If I remember correctly his original signature said 'UK citizen originally from Poland' or something of that sort.

No, that was Trumptonium. This is someone else.

[Vassenor]

all i want is a red, white and blue brexit with blue passports

why is that so hard

Because there was nothing stopping us going back to blue and the maroon passports were our idea.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

If I remember correctly his original signature said 'UK citizen originally from Poland' or something of that sort.

No, that was Trumptonium. This is someone else.

A shame, Trumptonium has leave to remain, don't know who this other guy is though.

[Souseiseki]

all i want is a red, white and blue brexit with blue passports

why is that so hard

because brexit was a bad idea that was never going to work

feel free to hit up me from 3 years ago any time you need more life advice

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

No it isn't; but nor did I say that it was. I merely noted that the President of France is a monarch by right as Co-Prince of Andorra.

Though, as a point of historical interest, it is the last regal title of the Kings of France to be actively used by the current French head of state. The Kings of France inherited the co-principality via the Kings of Navarre, specifically when Henri III of Navarre became Henri IV of France.

If he's a co-prince, is that really a monarch? I mean. There's two of them. Wouldn't that be a duarch or biarch or something?

I believe the technical term is doubleteamocracy.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

all i want is a red, white and blue brexit with blue passports

why is that so hard

Blame the ERG.

[The Archregimancy]

No it isn't; but nor did I say that it was. I merely noted that the President of France is a monarch by right as Co-Prince of Andorra.

Though, as a point of historical interest, it is the last regal title of the Kings of France to be actively used by the current French head of state. The Kings of France inherited the co-principality via the Kings of Navarre, specifically when Henri III of Navarre became Henri IV of France.

If he's a co-prince, is that really a monarch? I mean. There's two of them. Wouldn't that be a duarch or biarch or something?

Diarch, actually.

And yes, like ancient Sparta, Andorra is technically a diarchy.

And I'm sure that the moment I wrote that, everyone rushed to remember that the other European nation with co-equal dual heads of state - though in this case Captains Regent rather than princes - is San Marino.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Fuck off

Feeling victimised by ass, fix your fucking culture and religion. Religious bigots should not be fucking catered to.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Fuck off

Feeling victimised by ass, fix your fucking culture and religion. Religious bigots should not be fucking catered to.

The precedent has been set. Parents know they can take on schools over this an win.

On a vaguely related note, a parent posted some anti-LGBT nonsense in a Whatsapp group for parent at my sister's school. Bewildering lack of judgement, considering the group is for placing orders for freaking school hoodies.