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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
5
4%
Hunt
11
9%
Javid
5
4%
Johnson
37
31%
Raab
11
9%
Stewart
50
42%
 
Total votes : 119

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:26 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:If no-show BoJo hides in his bunker much longer there's going to be a lot of Downfall parodies


Carrie Symonds was actually telling Fegelein to get out of her flat.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:26 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:It's a shame Sky aren't going to have Jeremy Hunt debating with a tub of lard.


Imbued with much the same qualities and liable to give a much better performance.
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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:34 am

Some good news, also huge surprise but Farage is a bad loser.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:36 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:If no-show BoJo hides in his bunker much longer there's going to be a lot of Downfall parodies


Post-brexit?

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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:16 pm

To be honest Johnson and Hunt should have a boxing match and whoever wins will become prime minister, it would make things a lot more interesting.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:17 pm

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I'm happy it's been overturned. Lord Justice Jackson is, without a doubt, one of my favourite judges (yes, I have favourite judges), so I knew it had a good shout.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:22 pm

New Valmyria wrote:About half of Scotland wants independence regardless of Brexit, and that percentage will only increase when we leave the EU.
The North West of Wales (the part the actually speaks Welsh) wants to leave if Brexit happens too.
Catholic communities want to unify the island of Ireland under the Republic if we leave the EU.

If they all got their way, the UK could be reduced to England, Cardiff, Pembrokeshire and Belfast :lol2:
Although I doubt any English government would ever allow for independence referendums again any time soon. Unless we end up with a Lab/SNP coalition.

If anyone cares, i'm half English & half Welsh but have grown up my entire life in England.
Although if Wales did ever go independent I would seriously consider moving there purely out of my entirely illogical romanticisation for most seperatist movements.

Belfast is like plurality catholic at this stage i think from the last time i looked at the religion breakdown of this place anyway.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:26 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
New Valmyria wrote:About half of Scotland wants independence regardless of Brexit, and that percentage will only increase when we leave the EU.
The North West of Wales (the part the actually speaks Welsh) wants to leave if Brexit happens too.
Catholic communities want to unify the island of Ireland under the Republic if we leave the EU.

If they all got their way, the UK could be reduced to England, Cardiff, Pembrokeshire and Belfast :lol2:
Although I doubt any English government would ever allow for independence referendums again any time soon. Unless we end up with a Lab/SNP coalition.

If anyone cares, i'm half English & half Welsh but have grown up my entire life in England.
Although if Wales did ever go independent I would seriously consider moving there purely out of my entirely illogical romanticisation for most seperatist movements.

Belfast is like plurality catholic at this stage i think from the last time i looked at the religion breakdown of this place anyway.


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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:40 am

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:41 am

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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:19 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:

They're only spending their own money.

A poor attitude, comrade.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 am

2.4 million is a rounding error in terms of government budget tbh.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:48 am

EU assessing whether UK government “deliberately prevented” EU citizens from voting

So yeah, they're looking into the whole thing where EU nationals were blocked from voting in the last EUParl elections.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:06 pm

Vassenor wrote:EU assessing whether UK government “deliberately prevented” EU citizens from voting

So yeah, they're looking into the whole thing where EU nationals were blocked from voting in the last EUParl elections.


Took their sweet time. There were allegations of that happening even at the postal voting stage.
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Postby Duhon » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:53 pm

Might as well ask this one.

So for those who want Brexit (or plain Exit as the case will be if you keep on tearing your own country apart): what positive do you get from this? You lose Scotland and Northern Ireland, even possibly Wales, your economy craters, your political system descends into a shithole.

Other than the "sovereignty" snake oil, what is there for you to get?

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:06 pm



Yeah, because the royals spending money is so evil, it’s not like the private sector is exponentially worse...

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-bi ... l-yacht-10

Oh wait, they are. From private jets, to expensive cars to super yachts billionaires waste far more money then the royals.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:11 pm

So BoJo wants to ram through Brelol with or without a deal and the Northern Ireland border issue "will" be "solved" post-Brelol.
I see nothing wrong with this plan of his. At all...
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Postby Duhon » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:11 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So BoJo wants to ram through Brelol with or without a deal and the Northern Ireland border issue "will" be "solved" post-Brelol.
I see nothing wrong with this plan of his. At all...


You're implying there's even an atomic particle of a plan.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:49 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So BoJo wants to ram through Brelol with or without a deal and the Northern Ireland border issue "will" be "solved" post-Brelol.
I see nothing wrong with this plan of his. At all...


Wonder which contractors he owns shares in for when the Peace Walls start going back up.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:26 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:


Yeah, because the royals spending money is so evil, it’s not like the private sector is exponentially worse...

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-bi ... l-yacht-10

Oh wait, they are. From private jets, to expensive cars to super yachts billionaires waste far more money then the royals.

Ah, you got me. My disdain for the royals is totally hypocritical given my deep and abiding love for wealthy capitalists.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:28 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So BoJo wants to ram through Brelol with or without a deal and the Northern Ireland border issue "will" be "solved" post-Brelol.
I see nothing wrong with this plan of his. At all...

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:46 am

Ivan Cooper, a prominent civil rights leader here in NI and a founding member of the SDLP died today
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:19 am

Today in satire truer than reality:
“Some Poor People Will Have To Die” Johnson Unveils Hard Brexit Pledge
“It’s do or die. By die; I mean obviously just the poor. We’ll all have to make sacrifices. By all, again I mean only poor people and by sacrifice; again I mean death. That’s about it folks,” explained Johnson in a speech the Daily Telegraph described as ‘Churchillian’.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:22 am

Cerinda wrote:To be honest Johnson and Hunt should have a boxing match and whoever wins will become prime minister, it would make things a lot more interesting.

Wrong Hunt for a boxing match.

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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:26 am


Are we quite sure that's not just a leaked first draft of a speech he ended up being talked out of giving? :p
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