UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1140890775686918144

Conservative Party members say they would sacrifice Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Conservative Party and the economy to get Brexit. The only thing they would lose Brexit for is to stop Corbyn.

how do you even begin to fix something like this

From left to right based on the image.

Yes
Yes
No
Yes
Yes

Edit: meant yes to the last one.

Haha. 'No' to Tory party being destroyed.

Brexit either happens or the Conservative Party is permanently destroyed. There is no middle ground or third option. It will die off in the same fashion as Les Republicains to some right-wing alternative, be it Brexit Party (reformed) or something else.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

Anyone surprised BBC takes a random radical Muslim off the street (who has now been fired from his teaching job after his tweets were revealed) and inserted a Labour HQ plant?

Me no.

[North German Realm]

Anyone surprised BBC takes a random radical Muslim off the street (who has now been fired from his teaching job after his tweets were revealed) and inserted a Labour HQ plant?

Me no.

I have no idea what this is about. Could you expand on this?

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

Anyone surprised BBC takes a random radical Muslim off the street (who has now been fired from his teaching job after his tweets were revealed) and inserted a Labour HQ plant?

Me no.

I have no idea what this is about. Could you expand on this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ebate.html

One of the people picked by BBC to ask a question in the debate was a plant from Labour HQ, and another one was a radical Muslim who was picked to make Boris look bad over his veil comments.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsPR/status/11 ... 7517670400

--- edit

oh look, the labour hq plant who works at a law firm was just fired 5 minutes ago for his anti-semitic tweets and questionable posts about hitler
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/ ... 1064963073

[North German Realm]

I have no idea what this is about. Could you expand on this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ebate.html

One of the people picked by BBC to ask a question in the debate was a plant from Labour HQ, and another one was a radical Muslim who was picked to make Boris look bad over his veil comments.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsPR/status/11 ... 7517670400

Ah. well that explains it better. also why does the header in the daily mail article sound like the guy was suspended for, among other things, supporting Corbyn?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

From left to right based on the image.

Yes
Yes
No
Yes
Yes

Edit: meant yes to the last one.

Haha. 'No' to Tory party being destroyed.

Brexit either happens or the Conservative Party is permanently destroyed. There is no middle ground or third option. It will die off in the same fashion as Les Republicains to some right-wing alternative, be it Brexit Party (reformed) or something else.

I figured that the Tories were resilient enough to not be destroyed by failing to Brexit. But if they aren't, good riddance.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Only important if you assume we need/want a deal.

Well, we don't necessarily need a withdrawal deal from the EU. That's a back-up, but -- if not that -- revoking article 50 and remaining is a perfectly viable alternative.

That would probably need a second referendum, though.

The one thing that's not viable is crashing out with no deal, having to renegotiate at least 759 treaties (295 of them trade deals) and risk our long-term security.

Our long-term security is of far less importance than our political and economic independence.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

"I'm the candidate in this race who is most pro working people and who is most pro relief of poverty". Oh of course you are Gove, that's why under your government there has a been a rise in homelessness, food banks and unemployment and this is not mentioning the cut in disability services which has made people a lot more fucking poor. But it's not like Gove gives a shit anyway.

Also Jeremy Corbyn is now a puppet of Iran for some reason.

That's not really a meaningful criticism. They all served in the same government, and since they're compared against each other the same is true for them all.

[Denmani]

I have no idea what this is about. Could you expand on this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ebate.html

One of the people picked by BBC to ask a question in the debate was a plant from Labour HQ, and another one was a radical Muslim who was picked to make Boris look bad over his veil comments.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsPR/status/11 ... 7517670400

--- edit

oh look, the labour hq plant who works at a law firm was just fired 5 minutes ago for his anti-semitic tweets and questionable posts about hitler
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/ ... 1064963073

So the first one is Mostly anti zionist. It's different from anti semitism

The second one was fired for Hitler stuff.
Neither asked questions that aren't valid
Boris is a dispicable human being and needs showing this at every opportunity

[Vassenor]

So basically everything is a massive magical conspiracy to make Dear Leader Designate look bad.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

So basically everything is a massive magical conspiracy to make Dear Leader Designate look bad.

When you have a presenter who insists on cutting one person off mid-sentence and allowing others to talk over him, combined with 2 out of...I think 5 questioners having very questionable backgrounds, something starts to smell of fish.

[The Blaatschapen]

And, if I remember correctly, the EU said that the deal was not open for renegotiation anyway.

Yeah, they also said they wouldn’t give an extension. Yet here we are, with an extension.

The logical option would be to go to the EU with a few alterations to the existing deal, primarily a workable solution to the NI border issue and give no deal as the other option.

Of course the NI issue would require pissing off the DUP, or mastery of space time or quantum mechanics, possibly both.

Nothing wrong with pissing off the DUP.

Sure, it might trigger an election, but the Tories are better off without them in the long term. And so is the UK.

[Dumb Ideologies]

So basically everything is a massive magical conspiracy to make Dear Leader Designate look bad.

If we're talking conspiracies, sometimes I wonder if you're a spy sent by the other team to subtract credibility.

[Cerinda]

This debate was even more boring and pointless than the last, I expected Boris to unhinged and spout nonsense but he was quiet throughout, very disappointed. Hunt being the dead eyed psychopath as usual. Gove once again just showing his arrogance and attacking Labour every time he gets the chance. Javid once again provides nothing to the debate and is just trying to make sure he keeps his job when a new government is formed. Stewart is the only one who makes some sense and looks fed up and doesn't want to be alive anymore (same).

Also Jermey Corbyn is both a Marxist and a Anti-Semite? Is Corbyn a Nazbol now?

[Lower Nubia]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ebate.html

One of the people picked by BBC to ask a question in the debate was a plant from Labour HQ, and another one was a radical Muslim who was picked to make Boris look bad over his veil comments.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsPR/status/11 ... 7517670400

--- edit

oh look, the labour hq plant who works at a law firm was just fired 5 minutes ago for his anti-semitic tweets and questionable posts about hitler
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/ ... 1064963073

So the first one is Mostly anti zionist. It's different from anti semitism

The second one was fired for Hitler stuff.
Neither asked questions that aren't valid
Boris is a dispicable human being and needs showing this at every opportunity

Don’t forget stupid.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

So the first one is Mostly anti zionist. It's different from anti semitism

The second one was fired for Hitler stuff.
Neither asked questions that aren't valid
Boris is a dispicable human being and needs showing this at every opportunity

Don’t forget stupid.

Are we throwing around playground insults now?

[North German Realm]

This debate was even more boring and pointless than the last, I expected Boris to unhinged and spout nonsense but he was quiet throughout, very disappointed. Hunt being the dead eyed psychopath as usual. Gove once again just showing his arrogance and attacking Labour every time he gets the chance. Javid once again provides nothing to the debate and is just trying to make sure he keeps his job when a new government is formed. Stewart is the only one who makes some sense and looks fed up and doesn't want to be alive anymore (same).

Also Jermey Corbyn is both a Marxist and a Anti-Semite? Is Corbyn a Nazbol now?

He's not a Marxist though. At best he's a demsoc. He is an antisemite though.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Also Jermey Corbyn is both a Marxist and a Anti-Semite? Is Corbyn a Nazbol now?

He does want to turn a large Westminster building into a Labour camp...

[The Free Joy State]

Well, we don't necessarily need a withdrawal deal from the EU. That's a back-up, but -- if not that -- revoking article 50 and remaining is a perfectly viable alternative.

That would probably need a second referendum, though.

The one thing that's not viable is crashing out with no deal, having to renegotiate at least 759 treaties (295 of them trade deals) and risk our long-term security.

Our long-term security is of far less importance than our political and economic independence.

Brava! Yes! Let's march ahead, irregardless of the consequences. We'll be completely economically and politically independent, with no political or military allies and no trade deals and sit around in a field passing potatoes to each other.

Our heroic diabetics won't mind having to sit around, praying desperately their insulin arrives, as 99% of the stuff comes in from Europe. No!

Our brave manufacturers won't mind losing 44% of their business (the number that goes to the EU). Never!

We'll have our independence back.

Huzzah!

[Galloism]

Our long-term security is of far less importance than our political and economic independence.

Brava! Yes! Let's march ahead. We'll be completely economically and politically independent, with no political or military allies and no trade deals and sit around in a field passing potatoes to each other.

Our heroic diabetics won't mind having to sit around, praying desperately their insulin arrives, as 99% of the stuff comes in from Europe. No!

Our brave manufacturers won't mind losing 44% of their business (the number that goes to the EU). Never!

We'll have our independence back.

Huzzah!

We’ll sell you insulin at our good American prices. Don’t worry about it - we got your back.

[Lower Nubia]

Don’t forget stupid.

Are we throwing around playground insults now?

The man thought “technology” could solve the physical border problem. Any other description would be a compliment.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Well, we don't necessarily need a withdrawal deal from the EU. That's a back-up, but -- if not that -- revoking article 50 and remaining is a perfectly viable alternative.

That would probably need a second referendum, though.

The one thing that's not viable is crashing out with no deal, having to renegotiate at least 759 treaties (295 of them trade deals) and risk our long-term security.

Our long-term security is of far less importance than our political and economic independence.

I don't see how having to pay higher tariffs on European goods is so much of a good thing that it's worth sacrificing Britain's diplomatic relations with everybody else. Besides, Britain doesn't manufacture even close to all of the goods it consumes, so you'll have to trade with Europe anyway, you'll just pay higher prices to do it. (Although I guess you could achieve economic independence this way - no one's going to try to take over the British economy if you crash the economy so no one wants to take it over... That's a real game of eight-dimensional blindfolded Risk right there, but it could work.)

[Cerinda]

He is an antisemite though.

Yeah sure he is, whatever you say.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Are we throwing around playground insults now?

The man thought “technology” could solve the physical border problem. Any other description would be a compliment.

What's he going to do, send in the killbots?

[Denmani]

This debate was even more boring and pointless than the last, I expected Boris to unhinged and spout nonsense but he was quiet throughout, very disappointed. Hunt being the dead eyed psychopath as usual. Gove once again just showing his arrogance and attacking Labour every time he gets the chance. Javid once again provides nothing to the debate and is just trying to make sure he keeps his job when a new government is formed. Stewart is the only one who makes some sense and looks fed up and doesn't want to be alive anymore (same).

Also Jermey Corbyn is both a Marxist and a Anti-Semite? Is Corbyn a Nazbol now?

He's not a Marxist though. At best he's a demsoc. He is an antisemite though.

He's an anti zionist.
Labour has significantly lower amount of anti semitism than the tories
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