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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
5
4%
Hunt
11
9%
Javid
5
4%
Johnson
37
31%
Raab
11
9%
Stewart
50
42%
 
Total votes : 119

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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:19 pm

Philjia wrote:
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Now, now. That has never been a bar to being leader of the Conservative party.

Or prime minister.

And Sargon of Akkad is the most qualified person to lead this union, because he knows his shit.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:26 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
Philjia wrote:Or prime minister.

And Sargon of Akkad is the most qualified person to lead this union, because he knows his shit.


Sargon of Akkad, Britain's biggest idiot.

Has a nice ring to it as a campaign slogan....

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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:38 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
Philjia wrote:Or prime minister.

And Sargon of Akkad is the most qualified person to lead this union, because he knows his shit.

Genuinely don't know what to make of this comment.
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Postby 5 Kingdoms of Britannia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:06 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:And Sargon of Akkad is the most qualified person to lead this union, because he knows his shit.

Genuinely don't know what to make of this comment.

Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart

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Postby North German Realm » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:10 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Genuinely don't know what to make of this comment.

Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart

With all due respect, Europe is not likely to "ripe it self" apart anytime soon, especially over Brexit of all things.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:11 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Genuinely don't know what to make of this comment.

Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart


Because those places are far away and Europe is close. Not even a slogan on a bus can change geography.

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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:14 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote: Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart


Because those places are far away and Europe is close. Not even a slogan on a bus can change geography.

Also the Commonwealth is full of dicks.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:19 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Genuinely don't know what to make of this comment.

Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart


Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.

Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:19 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Because those places are far away and Europe is close. Not even a slogan on a bus can change geography.

Also the Commonwealth is full of dicks.


It's not that that bothers me about the idea we should leave the EU and trade more with the Commonwealth. It's the fact that the vast majority of the Commonwealth is poor as fuck and Europe is rich.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:21 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote: Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart


Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.

Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.


But...but.... *plays the Dambusters song really loud so I don't have to hear your Euro LIES!*

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.

Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.


But...but.... *plays the Dambusters song really loud so I don't have to hear your Euro LIES!*


*shouts from Calais*
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Postby 5 Kingdoms of Britannia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:25 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote: Why dont we just build stronger ties with the commonwealth and USA and let Europe ripe it self apart


Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.
Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.

Well we have more in common with majority of commonwealth nations than Germany or France and it always has been us vs them. For last 500 years our policy was to ensure Europe disunity and why change it now after all of its success though Germany did throw a spanner in the plan in 1900s it worked pretty well none the less we have never lost our superpower status

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:28 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.
Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.

Well we have more in common with majority of commonwealth nations than Germany or France and it always has been us vs them. For last 500 years our policy was to ensure Europe disunity and why change it now after all of its success though Germany did throw a spanner in the plan in 1900s it worked pretty well none the less we have never lost our superpower status


Bollocks. There are 53 countries in the Commonwealth and we have things in common with about 6 of them. Australia, Canada, Malta, Cyprus, New Zealand, and maybe Singapore.

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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:30 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.
Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.

Well we have more in common with majority of commonwealth nations than Germany or France and it always has been us vs them. For last 500 years our policy was to ensure Europe disunity and why change it now after all of its success though Germany did throw a spanner in the plan in 1900s it worked pretty well none the less we have never lost our superpower status

Maybe don't form policy based on that one scene from Yes, Minister.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:33 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:we have never lost our superpower status

Ha. :roll:
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:37 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:So Boris is a cunt.

Who could have predicted it?


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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:37 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.
Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.

Well we have more in common with majority of commonwealth nations than Germany or France and it always has been us vs them. For last 500 years our policy was to ensure Europe disunity and why change it now after all of its success though Germany did throw a spanner in the plan in 1900s it worked pretty well none the less we have never lost our superpower status


Only because they're nations where we forcibly imposed our values.
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Postby 5 Kingdoms of Britannia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:39 pm

Vassenor wrote:
5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:Well we have more in common with majority of commonwealth nations than Germany or France and it always has been us vs them. For last 500 years our policy was to ensure Europe disunity and why change it now after all of its success though Germany did throw a spanner in the plan in 1900s it worked pretty well none the less we have never lost our superpower status


Only because they're nations where we forcibly imposed our values.

Well yes and look how we improved them less tribal conflict increased industrial output less widow buring a love of tea a love of cricket and most importantly democracy

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:40 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Only because they're nations where we forcibly imposed our values.

Well yes and look how we improved them less tribal conflict increased industrial output less widow buring a love of tea a love of cricket and most importantly democracy


:rofl:

Africa as a continent was actually pretty stable before we fucked it up.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:42 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Good luck with all the Western European immigrants, if the continent rips itself apart.
Chances are about 99% that huge problems on the mainland of Europe will spill over to the UK. They've always done so (and also the other way around).

And it's because it is a false dichotomy. It's not us vs them. UK is very much a part of Europe.

Well we have more in common with majority of commonwealth nations than Germany or France and it always has been us vs them. For last 500 years our policy was to ensure Europe disunity and why change it now after all of its success though Germany did throw a spanner in the plan in 1900s it worked pretty well none the less we have never lost our superpower status


Your bloody royal family is German :roll:
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Postby North German Realm » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:44 pm

Vassenor wrote:
5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:Well yes and look how we improved them less tribal conflict increased industrial output less widow buring a love of tea a love of cricket and most importantly democracy


:rofl:

Africa as a continent was actually pretty stable before we fucked it up.

I wouldn't call pre-colonial Africa stable to be honest. It was a mess, but the Europeans made it absolutely worse because of their lack of tact.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:47 pm

North German Realm wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
:rofl:

Africa as a continent was actually pretty stable before we fucked it up.

I wouldn't call pre-colonial Africa stable to be honest. It was a mess, but the Europeans made it absolutely worse because of their lack of tact.


A mess according to who?

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Postby Philjia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:57 pm

5 kingdoms of Britannia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Only because they're nations where we forcibly imposed our values.

Well yes and look how we improved them less tribal conflict increased industrial output less widow buring a love of tea a love of cricket and most importantly democracy

Didn't work out so well in Swaziland. Or Burma. Or Brunei. Or Sudan. Or Zimbabwe.
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Postby 5 Kingdoms of Britannia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:59 pm

North German Realm wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
:rofl:

Africa as a continent was actually pretty stable before we fucked it up.

I wouldn't call pre-colonial Africa stable to be honest. It was a mess, but the Europeans made it absolutely worse because of their lack of tact.

Zimbabwe under British rule was the bread basket of Africa now it's the basket case, Europe through better geography developed the methods of better ruler ship for us the masses capitalism and democracy, Africa after 1960d began to forget this (in some nations) which led to mess Africa is today however Africa was never stable to begin with weather it be Arabia slavers or there lack of advance tech Africa need modernizing and they where luckly that us British did the most of it rather than French Belgium or arabs who where he worst out of all the options

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