UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Ostroeuropa]

Today in the UK politics thread: Advocating for fascism to own the libs.

Two black, diseased hearts beats in identitarian politics and their names are fear and spite. Do I feel contempt for much of the contemporary left? Sure. Much is preformative self aggrandisement, meaningless gesture, or inexplicable lack of empathy, none of which has any place politics. Do I fear it? No. I'll laugh and scorn the idiots and fools and oppose them wherever their bungling heads arise, always push for my vision, my ideals, never compromise to sad sacks who want to exploit me so they can build a less fair society, never throw women or minorities under the bus as some petty act of vengeance, become all I hate. I'm better than that. Everyone should be better than that.

Before recorded time
In some suburban room, see
The devil in his youth

He grew up pale and healthy
With the blessings of his father
The devil in his youth

His privilege came before him
The promise of adoring
The devil in his youth

But it all changed when he came of age
It was nothing like the simulated game
The women didn't love him
The races all ignored him
His proclamations failed
So he screamed
"Now you bend!"

The devil in his youth

I will make them feel the way I do
I'll corrupt them till they think the way I do
The devil in his youth

You will feel the way I do
You'll hurt the way I do

He was easily abused
The devil in his youth

Easy enough for people who haven't been directly impacted by the racist and sexist policies of the progressive left to say. I also think you're overstating the nature of under the bus here.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with what you're saying either, I also refuse to become a fascist. But I understand why it is happening and am not oblivious enough to think its Sargons charisma is just so persuasive.

Your poem mischaracterizes the situation also. It is not so much that women and minorities aren't bending the knee, but that their representatives are on the offensive and attempting to subject whites and males to injustice.

[Vassenor]

Looks like Farage is under investigation for Campaign Finance Violations again. Looks like he didn't declare all the cash and gifts he got from Aaron Banks.

[The Huskar Social Union]

[The Huskar Social Union]

"Nevermind your concerns, the union! Sinn Fein! Border Poll! Vote Unionist because themuns and fleg! UNION!"

Its like fucking clockwork every election

[Fartsniffage]

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You'll never achieve the desired level of brain damage if you use a pillow...

[Auristania]

The public voted for Brexit, which is supposed to be a binding decision. Reneging and holding the same vote for a second time is a direct mockery of Democracy. Voting until you get the result you want isn't Democracy, but a sham. The only logic behind it is that you're hoping you'll win this time. If Remain had won, I very much doubt you'd be calling for a second referendum to sniff out any changes in opinion. Democracy in its modern form doesn't mean responding to every straw poll on opinion, but setting a time to vote, and being bound to the decision of the people in that vote. Under your form of Democracy, there would be infinite elections because a new election or referendum would be required with even the slightest change in opinion.

Ignoring all of the pointless accusations, I wouldn't oppose a second Brexit referendum if the original one had gone with Remain.
Besides, this wasn't a binding referendum, but an advisory one. The government can freely ignore either if it wants. Literally the only point in either referendum was to figure out what public opinion was.

Whether the Original Referendum was defined as legal or not, in the Election, both New Labour and New Tory promised to enact Brexit and BOTH refused Brexit.

I wouldn't oppose a second Brexit referendum if we were allowed to leave and 5 years later we could choose again and choose again 10 years later etc. We are verboten to leave. Neverendum means we must vote and vote again until we Peasant Scum learn to obey our Lords and Masters.

[The Huskar Social Union]

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You'll never achieve the desired level of brain damage if you use a pillow...

Big things have small beginnings.



Or something

[Fartsniffage]

You'll never achieve the desired level of brain damage if you use a pillow...

Big things have small beginnings.



Or something

As the vicar said to the altarboy...

[Tmutarakhan]

Teresa May pledges that the UK will win Eurovision 2019. She is trying to schedule a revote in the coming days.

[Philjia]

"Nevermind your concerns, the union! Sinn Fein! Border Poll! Vote Unionist because themuns and fleg! UNION!"

Its like fucking clockwork every election

Surely they should be trying to steal DUP voters rather than swing voters?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Ignoring all of the pointless accusations, I wouldn't oppose a second Brexit referendum if the original one had gone with Remain.
Besides, this wasn't a binding referendum, but an advisory one. The government can freely ignore either if it wants. Literally the only point in either referendum was to figure out what public opinion was.

Whether the Original Referendum was defined as legal or not, in the Election, both New Labour and New Tory promised to enact Brexit and BOTH refused Brexit.

I wouldn't oppose a second Brexit referendum if we were allowed to leave and 5 years later we could choose again and choose again 10 years later etc. We are verboten to leave. Neverendum means we must vote and vote again until we Peasant Scum learn to obey our Lords and Masters.

The primary issue with this logic is that the EU has no reason to let the UK back in, especially since there's clearly nothing stopping the UK from leaving again the instant it doesn't think the EU benefits it, which defeats the entire point of delaying the referendum provided that you actually want to do what the public wants and not what you specifically want. Besides, it's an advisory referendum, and the government is in no way obligated to comply with its results - literally all it would be is an indicator of whether or not the British people are in favor or Brexit, and I don't see any problem with that.
I'm not even a British citizen, I don't have a stake in this one way or another. I'm just looking at the facts as I see them, and I see no logical reason that a second referendum would be a bad thing (and it's not as though nobody's tried to present them).

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Now I've got Kelis' Milkshake stuck in my head. I blame Farage. I could teach him, but I'd have to charge...

[The Huskar Social Union]

"Nevermind your concerns, the union! Sinn Fein! Border Poll! Vote Unionist because themuns and fleg! UNION!"

Its like fucking clockwork every election

Surely they should be trying to steal DUP voters rather than swing voters?

That would require not being the DUP's bitch every other week.

And what they are trying to offer is a second rate version of the shite that the DUP spout every day. They have nothing to offer people now other than screaming "Irish Nationalists! Borde rpoll! Sinn Fein! THE UNION!"

Im actually disappointed in them, even if im not a unionist and have no intention of ever voting for them. They had something under Nesbit who i respected, but since he left all they have done is constantly jump around following the DUP's coat tails.

[Hirota]

since apparently people throwing things at other people for beliefs and values they disagree with is apparently something that is fine (and even to be celebrated), I'm sure this will go down without comment or issue: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... p-16299503

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

since apparently people throwing things at other people for beliefs and values they disagree with is apparently something that is fine (and even to be celebrated), I'm sure this will go down without comment or issue: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... p-16299503

One can argue that a thing is wrong without arguing that it should be illegal.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

since apparently people throwing things at other people for beliefs and values they disagree with is apparently something that is fine (and even to be celebrated), I'm sure this will go down without comment or issue: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... p-16299503

One can argue that a thing is wrong without arguing that it should be illegal.

Throwing something at someone is a form of assault is it not?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

One can argue that a thing is wrong without arguing that it should be illegal.

Throwing something at someone is a form of assault is it not?

Or cricket.

[Ifreann]

Nigel Farage victim of brutal milkshaking.

[Ostroeuropa]

Nigel Farage victim of brutal milkshaking.

It's like you have no awareness of how this looks in the context of religious extremists also behaving this way to harass LGBT folk.

[Ifreann]

Nigel Farage victim of brutal milkshaking.

It's like you have no awareness of how this looks in the context of religious extremists also behaving this way to harass LGBT folk.

Yes, clearly it is very bad that someone threw a milkshake on Nigel Farage because something something LGBT something something religion.

[Ostroeuropa]

It's like you have no awareness of how this looks in the context of religious extremists also behaving this way to harass LGBT folk.

Yes, clearly it is very bad that someone threw a milkshake on Nigel Farage because something something LGBT something something religion.

Because of the normalization of public harassment in politics?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

One can argue that a thing is wrong without arguing that it should be illegal.

Throwing something at someone is a form of assault is it not?

So is poking someone to see if they're awake or bumping into someone while in a queue. (Provided, of course, that British law works like American law here - I think it does, but I admit that I could definitely be wrong.)

Nigel Farage victim of brutal milkshaking.

It's like you have no awareness of how this looks in the context of religious extremists also behaving this way to harass LGBT folk.

Ah yes, the brutal militant Islamist sect, feared for their power to ruin clothes and make you smell like dairy products... the legendary Al-Milkshaque.

[Galloism]

Yes, clearly it is very bad that someone threw a milkshake on Nigel Farage because something something LGBT something something religion.

Because of the normalization of public harassment in politics?

I mean, it’s not harassment - it’s assault & battery.

But I can’t get too excited about it without being super hypocritical - I thought the Iraqi that threw his shoes at bush was hilarious. He was, however, justly and correctly arrested. Just as those who pelt protestors with eggs should be, and those who pelt politicians with milkshakes should be.

Speaking of which, what’s the context on this whole milkshake thing? Seems random.

[Ostroeuropa]

Because of the normalization of public harassment in politics?

I mean, it’s not harassment - it’s assault & battery.

But I can’t get too excited about it without being super hypocritical - I thought the Iraqi that threw his shoes at bush was hilarious. He was, however, justly and correctly arrested. Just as those who pelt protestors with eggs should be, and those who pelt politicians with milkshakes should be.

Speaking of which, what’s the context on this whole milkshake thing? Seems random.

Far-right figures and those accused of being far-right are being pelted with milkshakes when they appear in public as a kind of meme. I think it started with Tommy Robinson. This would be the third such attack on Sargon of Akkad, first time in this wave of attacks it's happened to Farage.

[Galloism]

I mean, it’s not harassment - it’s assault & battery.

But I can’t get too excited about it without being super hypocritical - I thought the Iraqi that threw his shoes at bush was hilarious. He was, however, justly and correctly arrested. Just as those who pelt protestors with eggs should be, and those who pelt politicians with milkshakes should be.

Speaking of which, what’s the context on this whole milkshake thing? Seems random.

Far-right figures and those accused of being far-right are being pelted with milkshakes when they appear in public as a kind of meme. I think it started with Tommy Robinson. This would be the third such attack on Sargon of Akkad, first time in this wave of attacks it's happened to Farage.

But why milkshakes?