UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

It's true case was not successful but fact it did get that still worries me, but hey at least we all did research to find about that case in first place so we can all at least be proud of that

So basically we're back at thinly veiled racism.

Wait what, because I don't think I'm racist unless it is to turn down radical Islam and wish to push the spectator back like we did the Nazis in 45 and kinda to the commies in 91

[Kowani]

So basically we're back at thinly veiled racism.

Wait what, because I don't think I'm racist unless it is to turn down radical Islam and wish to push the spectator back like we did the Nazis in 45 and kinda to the commies in 91

Assuming that you meant spectre... Doesn’t the Austrian law work for all religions, not just Islam.

[Vassenor]

So basically we're back at thinly veiled racism.

Wait what, because I don't think I'm racist unless it is to turn down radical Islam and wish to push the spectator back like we did the Nazis in 45 and kinda to the commies in 91

Bloody hell you're not even trying to hide the #notracistbut stuff.

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

Wait what, because I don't think I'm racist unless it is to turn down radical Islam and wish to push the spectator back like we did the Nazis in 45 and kinda to the commies in 91

Assuming that you meant spectre... Doesn’t the Austrian law work for all religions, not just Islam.

True yet the only major case I could find with my limited resources was Islam case and with the way presence works in legal system it can only take hand full of rulings before things get murky and thanks for correcting my spelling I'm not that good with words

[Ifreann]

People adopting a symbol is people adopting a symbol. Nazis don't have a government that can have a flag any more, so they're just doing it on imageboards and social media, but it's still Nazis adopting a symbol to signal their Nazism to other Nazis. It doesn't matter if the symbol came from 4chan trolls hoping to own the libs any more than it matters that the swastika came from Buddhism. It doesn't matter that 1488 is just numbers. It doesn't matter that that hand gesture means "okay". These are symbols Nazis use, so we should pay attention to that and propagate that knowledge so that we can recognise Nazis. That doesn't mean that anyone thinks that Stephen Fry, the gay man of Jewish descent, is secretly a Nazi or anything stupid like that.

According to the article, some people do.

Some people think the world is flat.

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What even is this post.

Pure cereal

People adopting a symbol is people adopting a symbol. Nazis don't have a government that can have a flag any more, so they're just doing it on imageboards and social media, but it's still Nazis adopting a symbol to signal their Nazism to other Nazis. It doesn't matter if the symbol came from 4chan trolls hoping to own the libs any more than it matters that the swastika came from Buddhism. It doesn't matter that 1488 is just numbers. It doesn't matter that that hand gesture means "okay". These are symbols Nazis use, so we should pay attention to that and propagate that knowledge so that we can recognise Nazis. That doesn't mean that anyone thinks that Stephen Fry, the gay man of Jewish descent, is secretly a Nazi or anything stupid like that.

Oh you would be surprised, some twats had a go at Paradox Interactive for promoting race supremacy because they said deus vult in a twitter post about ck2 being free.

Some people are fucking morons.

Oh no, someone on the internet said mean things about a company you like. Who, outside of Paradox's PR department, gives a fuck? If this is the terrible consequence of paying attention to Nazis and the memes they use then I would suggest that you are overreacting quite a bit. Or maybe the hell we must escape from is Stephen Fry spending an extra minute on Twitter. The horror.

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The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

It’s also worth note this shit has real economic consequences too. Our company just spent a couple hundred thousand dollars combing all our documentation, websites, interface screens, employee job aids, usable emojis, manuals, and so forth in order to remove the ok symbol from everything.

Yes really. Because the company doesn’t want to cause offense.

Weird that a business might put effort into their public image. Political correctness gone mad.

[Conserative Morality]

Did anyone bother to look at the Twitter thread? It's a handful of people politely informing Fry about the gesture. They're not screeching at him for being a Nazi, they're not trying to destroy his career, no one's demanding he apologise or any of that. It can't even really be called criticism. They're just letting him know. There are just as many people whining about people whining about the symbol, and even more just...taking the tweet for the comment on mental health that it was.

Hell, one of the three quoted replies the Metro used was followed up by a second reply clarifying that he was joking. I counted only two more comments that weren't in the article. So that's one joke, four polite comments. Much Twitter storm. Truly peak SJW. Very sad.

If you lot were less eager to flip out about SJWs like Ostro wants you to and more inclined to, I don't know, look at the facts, you might just find that there's no need to flip out about SJWs.

Just a thought.

Only SJWs get trolled ex dee

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

Overall I'm still pro leave no deal for freedom democracy and long term economy growth

[Kowani]

Assuming that you meant spectre... Doesn’t the Austrian law work for all religions, not just Islam.

True yet the only major case I could find with my limited resources was Islam case and with the way presence works in legal system it can only take hand full of rulings before things get murky and thanks for correcting my spelling I'm not that good with words

It’s doesn’t actually impose blasphemy laws anywhere. The Austrian Law existed before, all the ECHR did was say that Austria was allowed to enforce it.

That said, unless the British vote for one, it’s not happening in Britain.

[Kowani]

Overall I'm still pro leave no deal for freedom democracy and long term economy growth

What long term economic growth?

Also, how exactly is the EU undemocratic?

[Fartsniffage]

Overall I'm still pro leave no deal for freedom democracy and long term economy growth

Good luck with that.

[Vassenor]

Overall I'm still pro leave no deal for freedom democracy and long term economy growth

Also I have some prime oceanfront property in Colorado to sell you.

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

True yet the only major case I could find with my limited resources was Islam case and with the way presence works in legal system it can only take hand full of rulings before things get murky and thanks for correcting my spelling I'm not that good with words

It’s doesn’t actually impose blasphemy laws anywhere. The Austrian Law existed before, all the ECHR did was say that Austria was allowed to enforce it.

That said, unless the British vote for one, it’s not happening in Britain.

Though the way so worked for most nation you could be charged for a crime only illegal in Austria even if you are in Belgium that's this issue that plus general united states of Europe gave me bad flash back to mainland European empires

[Uiiop]

Overall I'm still pro leave no deal for freedom democracy and long term economy growth

Also I have some prime oceanfront property in Colorado to sell you.

We're working on that actually. It's just going to take a bit since a theme park is in the way.

[Vassenor]

It’s doesn’t actually impose blasphemy laws anywhere. The Austrian Law existed before, all the ECHR did was say that Austria was allowed to enforce it.

That said, unless the British vote for one, it’s not happening in Britain.

Though the way so worked for most nation you could be charged for a crime only illegal in Austria even if you are in Belgium that's this issue that plus general united states of Europe gave me bad flash back to mainland European empires

No, it just said that individual nations could pass such laws. Not that said laws cover acts in entirely separate countries.

[Kowani]

It’s doesn’t actually impose blasphemy laws anywhere. The Austrian Law existed before, all the ECHR did was say that Austria was allowed to enforce it.

That said, unless the British vote for one, it’s not happening in Britain.

Though the way so worked for most nation you could be charged for a crime only illegal in Austria even if you are in Belgium that's this issue that plus general united states of Europe gave me bad flash back to mainland European empires

…No, that’s not how it works.

How, exactly?

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

Overall I'm still pro leave no deal for freedom democracy and long term economy growth

Good luck with that.

We can be master of own kinda of.desnity not shakeled to corpses of western Europe and maybe bring back so good old fashioned supply side economics and maybe THE BRITISH EMPIRE (that last part was a joke though I do believe in stronger ties with her majesty common wealth)

[Vassenor]

Good luck with that.

We can be master of own kinda of.desnity not shakeled to corpses of western Europe and maybe bring back so good old fashioned supply side economics and maybe THE BRITISH EMPIRE (that last part was a joke though I do believe in stronger ties with her majesty common wealth)

And what about the EU was stopping that?

[Kowani]

Good luck with that.

We can be master of own kinda of.desnity not shakeled to corpses of western Europe and maybe bring back so good old fashioned supply side economics and maybe THE BRITISH EMPIRE (that last part was a joke though I do believe in stronger ties with her majesty common wealth)

“Supply side economics.”
Mate, these don’t actually work. Like, at all.

[Alvecia]

Good luck with that.

We can be master of own kinda of.desnity not shakeled to corpses of western Europe and maybe bring back so good old fashioned supply side economics and maybe THE BRITISH EMPIRE (that last part was a joke though I do believe in stronger ties with her majesty common wealth)

Manchester for the Mancunians. We can be masters of our own destiny, not shackled to corpses of the South.

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

We can be master of own kinda of.desnity not shakeled to corpses of western Europe and maybe bring back so good old fashioned supply side economics and maybe THE BRITISH EMPIRE (that last part was a joke though I do believe in stronger ties with her majesty common wealth)

And what about the EU was stopping that?

A group that could over ride our laws with there own.... tho we would have a little say our voice was igrone and they constaly pushed for high trade barriers outside eu which strained relationship with common wealth

[Vassenor]

And what about the EU was stopping that?

A group that could over ride our laws with there own.... tho we would have a little say our voice was igrone and they constaly pushed for high trade barriers outside eu which strained relationship with common wealth

Examples please.

[Fartsniffage]

We can be master of own kinda of.desnity not shakeled to corpses of western Europe and maybe bring back so good old fashioned supply side economics and maybe THE BRITISH EMPIRE (that last part was a joke though I do believe in stronger ties with her majesty common wealth)

Manchester for the Mancunians. We can be masters of our own destiny, not shackled to corpses of the South.

You're Mancunian?

[Alvecia]

Manchester for the Mancunians. We can be masters of our own destiny, not shackled to corpses of the South.

You're Mancunian?

Born and bred

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

A group that could over ride our laws with there own.... tho we would have a little say our voice was igrone and they constaly pushed for high trade barriers outside eu which strained relationship with common wealth

Examples please.

Article 13 and 11, rules for tariffs with commonwealth nation, usa and china

[Fartsniffage]

You're Mancunian?

Born and bred

Alright our kid?