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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
5
4%
Hunt
11
9%
Javid
5
4%
Johnson
37
31%
Raab
11
9%
Stewart
50
42%
 
Total votes : 119

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed May 15, 2019 2:12 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because the political apparatus of an entire nation using a symbol for their ideology of genocide is the same thing to 4chan trolling a bunch of fucking liberal journalists on the internet who accuse everything under the moon of racism.

What happens when a bunch of racists start using a symbol ironically to 'troll the libs lul' and it spreads to racists who use the symbol unironically?

Are one or both groups worth being rounded up and thrown in some godless wilderness with no form of communication with the outside world?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed May 15, 2019 2:13 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because the political apparatus of an entire nation using a symbol for their ideology of genocide is the same thing to 4chan trolling a bunch of fucking liberal journalists on the internet who accuse everything under the moon of racism.

What happens when a bunch of racists start using a symbol ironically to 'troll the libs lul' and it spreads to racists who use the symbol unironically?

Are one or both groups worth being rounded up and thrown in some godless wilderness with no form of communication with the outside world?

You call em a bunch of cunts and refuse to let them take over the symbol and continue using it for what it actually means and educate people not to fall for a bunch of fuck knuckle race obsessed loons usage of said symbol.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 15, 2019 2:15 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because the political apparatus of an entire nation using a symbol for their ideology of genocide is the same thing to 4chan trolling a bunch of fucking liberal journalists on the internet who accuse everything under the moon of racism.

What happens when a bunch of racists start using a symbol ironically to 'troll the libs lul' and it spreads to racists who use the symbol unironically?

Are one or both groups worth being rounded up and thrown in some godless wilderness with no form of communication with the outside world?


What happens when paranoid leftists who place anti-racism above common sense decide anything the far-right decides to lay claim to belongs to them because there's no other way to be sure you aren't a racist like some super pathetic appeasement process where Chamberlain decides to give Czechoslovakia to Hitler to prove what a wonderful anti-racist he is after all he can't possibly be allied with the Czechs if the Nazis want them as part of their evil alliance.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 15, 2019 2:15 pm

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Ifreann wrote:I'm sure he won't, but tabloid rags gotta get their clicks somehow.



Tell me more about how the swastika is a Buddhist symbol with no association to the Nazis. Tell me about how pathetic it is to think that someone with a swastika tattoo is probably a Nazi. Haha, you all fell for Hitler's troll! Fools!



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The Huskar Social Union wrote:You call em a bunch of cunts and refuse to let them take over the symbol and continue using it for what it actually means and educate people not to fall for a bunch of fuck knuckle race obsessed loons usage of said symbol.

"Refuse to let them take over the symbol"

I don't think you understand how symbols work. There isn't 'ownership'. This is only usage. You can no more "Refuse to let them take over" a symbol than you can strip a slang meaning from a word.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed May 15, 2019 2:16 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because the political apparatus of an entire nation using a symbol for their ideology of genocide is the same thing to 4chan trolling a bunch of fucking liberal journalists on the internet who accuse everything under the moon of racism.


It's gonna be wonderful when the operation to start using the LGBT flag for racist purposes works and journos start lambasting it for being Nazi.


The rainbow flag is complete cringe and I can't wait for the "I'm a ten year old sparkle princess uwu" symbol of the Priders to be stolen.

Come, friendly Nazis.
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Postby Auristania » Wed May 15, 2019 2:17 pm

Yes, Stephen Fry is gay. So SJW kinda sorta love him BUT SJW love Islam most of all, so SJW wqnt Stephen Fry to be thrown of a high building..

OK symbol has been TMed by KKK, therefore we are verboten to use it. I agree. Let KKK have OK symbol but that means we can have the Roman Salute back.

Ifn I were Donald Trump and SJW, I would organize 1,000 KKK standing in every posture possible, then the rest of us are verboten to move at all.

Nazis did Roman Salute, so if the rest of us do Roman Salute it makes us look like Nazis.

A couple of Nazis on the Web do OK symbol therefore SJW forbid everyone to do that gesture.

Trump, Nazis, SJW will make every gesture verboten.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 15, 2019 2:17 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You call em a bunch of cunts and refuse to let them take over the symbol and continue using it for what it actually means and educate people not to fall for a bunch of fuck knuckle race obsessed loons usage of said symbol.

"Refuse to let them take over the symbol"

I don't think you understand how symbols work. There isn't 'ownership'. This is only usage. You can no more "Refuse to let them take over" a symbol than you can strip a slang meaning from a word.


If you think the far-right using a symbol is enough usage to overwhelm the common meaning it is because you have drunk gallons of far-left kool aid and don't belong in journalism or any position of influence.

Like, a Nazi flashing the Ok sign and someone flashing it back so the Nazi decides to be like; "Oh thank god, I hate jews too man" is going to go badly for the Nazi 99.9% of the time. Or it would have, before the far-left authoritarians decided to terrorize everyone who refused to cede Czechoslovakia to hitler.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 15, 2019 2:18 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's gonna be wonderful when the operation to start using the LGBT flag for racist purposes works and journos start lambasting it for being Nazi.


The rainbow flag is complete cringe and I can't wait for the "I'm a ten year old sparkle princess uwu" symbol of the Priders to be stolen.

Come, friendly Nazis.


"Human diversity advocate, many colors is beautiful, separate and equal." is the thing they're pushing with it.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed May 15, 2019 2:18 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You call em a bunch of cunts and refuse to let them take over the symbol and continue using it for what it actually means and educate people not to fall for a bunch of fuck knuckle race obsessed loons usage of said symbol.

"Refuse to let them take over the symbol"

I don't think you understand how symbols work. There isn't 'ownership'. This is only usage. You can no more "Refuse to let them take over" a symbol than you can strip a slang meaning from a word.


The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

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Postby Galloism » Wed May 15, 2019 2:18 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You call em a bunch of cunts and refuse to let them take over the symbol and continue using it for what it actually means and educate people not to fall for a bunch of fuck knuckle race obsessed loons usage of said symbol.

"Refuse to let them take over the symbol"

I don't think you understand how symbols work. There isn't 'ownership'. This is only usage. You can no more "Refuse to let them take over" a symbol than you can strip a slang meaning from a word.

Below, the official flag of the KKK:

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 15, 2019 2:19 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm sure he won't, but tabloid rags gotta get their clicks somehow.



Tell me more about how the swastika is a Buddhist symbol with no association to the Nazis. Tell me about how pathetic it is to think that someone with a swastika tattoo is probably a Nazi. Haha, you all fell for Hitler's troll! Fools!

Because the political apparatus of an entire nation using a symbol for their ideology of genocide is the same thing to 4chan trolling a bunch of fucking liberal journalists on the internet who accuse everything under the moon of racism.

People adopting a symbol is people adopting a symbol. Nazis don't have a government that can have a flag any more, so they're just doing it on imageboards and social media, but it's still Nazis adopting a symbol to signal their Nazism to other Nazis. It doesn't matter if the symbol came from 4chan trolls hoping to own the libs any more than it matters that the swastika came from Buddhism. It doesn't matter that 1488 is just numbers. It doesn't matter that that hand gesture means "okay". These are symbols Nazis use, so we should pay attention to that and propagate that knowledge so that we can recognise Nazis. That doesn't mean that anyone thinks that Stephen Fry, the gay man of Jewish descent, is secretly a Nazi or anything stupid like that.
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Postby Kowani » Wed May 15, 2019 2:19 pm

Auristania wrote:Yes, Stephen Fry is gay. So SJW kinda sorta love him BUT SJW love Islam most of all, so SJW wqnt Stephen Fry to be thrown of a high building..

OK symbol has been TMed by KKK, therefore we are verboten to use it. I agree. Let KKK have OK symbol but that means we can have the Roman Salute back.

Ifn I were Donald Trump and SJW, I would organize 1,000 KKK standing in every posture possible, then the rest of us are verboten to move at all.

Nazis did Roman Salute, so if the rest of us do Roman Salute it makes us look like Nazis.

A couple of Nazis on the Web do

What even is this post.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed May 15, 2019 2:21 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because the political apparatus of an entire nation using a symbol for their ideology of genocide is the same thing to 4chan trolling a bunch of fucking liberal journalists on the internet who accuse everything under the moon of racism.

People adopting a symbol is people adopting a symbol. Nazis don't have a government that can have a flag any more, so they're just doing it on imageboards and social media, but it's still Nazis adopting a symbol to signal their Nazism to other Nazis. It doesn't matter if the symbol came from 4chan trolls hoping to own the libs any more than it matters that the swastika came from Buddhism. It doesn't matter that 1488 is just numbers. It doesn't matter that that hand gesture means "okay". These are symbols Nazis use, so we should pay attention to that and propagate that knowledge so that we can recognise Nazis. That doesn't mean that anyone thinks that Stephen Fry, the gay man of Jewish descent, is secretly a Nazi or anything stupid like that.


According to the article, some people do.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed May 15, 2019 2:21 pm

Kowani wrote:
Auristania wrote:Yes, Stephen Fry is gay. So SJW kinda sorta love him BUT SJW love Islam most of all, so SJW wqnt Stephen Fry to be thrown of a high building..

OK symbol has been TMed by KKK, therefore we are verboten to use it. I agree. Let KKK have OK symbol but that means we can have the Roman Salute back.

Ifn I were Donald Trump and SJW, I would organize 1,000 KKK standing in every posture possible, then the rest of us are verboten to move at all.

Nazis did Roman Salute, so if the rest of us do Roman Salute it makes us look like Nazis.

A couple of Nazis on the Web do

What even is this post.

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Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Because the political apparatus of an entire nation using a symbol for their ideology of genocide is the same thing to 4chan trolling a bunch of fucking liberal journalists on the internet who accuse everything under the moon of racism.

People adopting a symbol is people adopting a symbol. Nazis don't have a government that can have a flag any more, so they're just doing it on imageboards and social media, but it's still Nazis adopting a symbol to signal their Nazism to other Nazis. It doesn't matter if the symbol came from 4chan trolls hoping to own the libs any more than it matters that the swastika came from Buddhism. It doesn't matter that 1488 is just numbers. It doesn't matter that that hand gesture means "okay". These are symbols Nazis use, so we should pay attention to that and propagate that knowledge so that we can recognise Nazis. That doesn't mean that anyone thinks that Stephen Fry, the gay man of Jewish descent, is secretly a Nazi or anything stupid like that.
Oh you would be surprised, some twats had a go at Paradox Interactive for promoting race supremacy because they said deus vult in a twitter post about ck2 being free.

Some people are fucking morons.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed May 15, 2019 2:21 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

By acknowledging that it's more than "Lol silly libs think that fuckwits making an okay sign is trying to be a coded racist symbol when there is literally a mass attempt by fuckwits and racists to make it so, you're so easy to troll ex dee"?

Yes, I suppose then I am letting a few fuckwits mess with that by not sticking my head in the sand.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed May 15, 2019 2:22 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The rainbow flag is complete cringe and I can't wait for the "I'm a ten year old sparkle princess uwu" symbol of the Priders to be stolen.

Come, friendly Nazis.


"Human diversity advocate, many colors is beautiful, separate and equal." is the thing they're pushing with it.


Where do I stamp? Symbol transfer approved.

In return give the gays the brownshirts back.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 15, 2019 2:23 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The rainbow flag is complete cringe and I can't wait for the "I'm a ten year old sparkle princess uwu" symbol of the Priders to be stolen.

Come, friendly Nazis.


"Human diversity advocate, many colors is beautiful, separate and equal." is the thing they're pushing with it.


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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 15, 2019 2:25 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"Refuse to let them take over the symbol"

I don't think you understand how symbols work. There isn't 'ownership'. This is only usage. You can no more "Refuse to let them take over" a symbol than you can strip a slang meaning from a word.


The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

Or maybe, just maybe, recognising that Nazis use the okay hand gesture the same way they use 1488 or the othala rune doesn't mean we throw Stephen Fry and scuba divers in the gulag.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 15, 2019 2:26 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"Refuse to let them take over the symbol"

I don't think you understand how symbols work. There isn't 'ownership'. This is only usage. You can no more "Refuse to let them take over" a symbol than you can strip a slang meaning from a word.


The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

It’s also worth note this shit has real economic consequences too. Our company just spent a couple hundred thousand dollars combing all our documentation, websites, interface screens, employee job aids, usable emojis, manuals, and so forth in order to remove the ok symbol from everything.

Yes really. Because the company doesn’t want to cause offense.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed May 15, 2019 2:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

Or maybe, just maybe, recognising that Nazis use the okay hand gesture the same way they use 1488 or the othala rune doesn't mean we throw Stephen Fry and scuba divers in the gulag.

It's just a number, numbers are universally used!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed May 15, 2019 2:26 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

By acknowledging that it's more than "Lol silly libs think that fuckwits making an okay sign is trying to be a coded racist symbol when there is literally a mass attempt by fuckwits and racists to make it so, you're so easy to troll ex dee"?

Yes, I suppose then I am letting a few fuckwits mess with that by not sticking my head in the sand.


Well just try to avoid lumping pilots, police, military in general, underwater workers, workers in loud environments, and the deaf in there with the racists.

This isn't the cold war, people aren't really using a hand signal to identify with each other in the real world. They just have a blog.

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Postby Auristania » Wed May 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Kowani wrote:
Auristania wrote:Yes, Stephen Fry is gay. So SJW kinda sorta love him BUT SJW love Islam most of all, so SJW wqnt Stephen Fry to be thrown of a high building..

OK symbol has been TMed by KKK, therefore we are verboten to use it. I agree. Let KKK have OK symbol but that means we can have the Roman Salute back.

Ifn I were Donald Trump and SJW, I would organize 1,000 KKK standing in every posture possible, then the rest of us are verboten to move at all.

Nazis did Roman Salute, so if the rest of us do Roman Salute it makes us look like Nazis.

A couple of Nazis on the Web do

What even is this post.

To xplain the xplanation. SJW kinda sorta love Gays, but SJW super doper love Islam, therefore when Terrorists throw Gays off High buildings, SJW insist it is a good thing because it's part 0f their Culture

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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 15, 2019 2:28 pm

Auristania wrote:
Kowani wrote:What even is this post.

To xplain the xplanation. SJW kinda sorta love Gays, but SJW super doper love Islam, therefore when Terrorists throw Gays off High buildings, SJW insist it is a good thing because it's part 0f their Culture


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 15, 2019 2:30 pm

Galloism wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The okay symbol isn't just a socially used thing. It's a universally recognised symbol taught to various professions where speech between people isn't available. And you're letting a few fuckwits mess with that.

It’s also worth note this shit has real economic consequences too. Our company just spent a couple hundred thousand dollars combing all our documentation, websites, interface screens, employee job aids, usable emojis, manuals, and so forth in order to remove the ok symbol from everything.

Yes really. Because the company doesn’t want to cause offense.


Honk honk. Jesus Christ.

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