UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Thermodolia]

The point is will it be paid attention to. Is your understanding of British politics so limited that you do not get that?

Do you really think this one petition will actually change the way Parliament views Brexit?

That suddenly Parliament will become united around remain because of some online petition?

The hard remainders will wave it about, nobody else will care.

They still have to debate the matter. Meaning some might change their minds in favor

[Alvecia]

Do you really think this one petition will actually change the way Parliament views Brexit?

That suddenly Parliament will become united around remain because of some online petition?

The hard remainders will wave it about, nobody else will care.

They still have to debate the matter. Meaning some might change their minds in favor

Consider debating the matter, if I'm reading the gov.uk site correctly.

[Novus America]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

Ah yes let’s invade the nation that’s apart of a group that has our greatest rivals as members and one of them has a nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

Just brilliant.

Oh let’s not forget that the diaspora of said nation we want to invade kinda has some very powerful people in the worlds superpower

Of course it is insanity. But not even the UK Parliament is stupid enough to consider it.
Just a few lunatics.

Though I am not sure the EU would fight to defend it. The EU has no will to fight, and limited capability to do so.

But it would certainly leave the UK completely isolated and crushed with massive sanctions.

Only China, Russia and co would trade with the UK after that. The UK would become a hated impoverished parish state.

[Dumb Ideologies]

So the Troubles 2 Electric Boogaloo when? But speaking of Ireland seeing as it and Northern Ireland are one of the major reasons Brexit is such a shit show has anyone brought up an idea on how to deal with that issue without causing the troubles to flare up again?

Set up a sea border between NI and the rest of the UK. But the DUP dont want that and they are too busy pegging the tories for it to happen anyway.

Pacify the splittist provinces!

H u z z a h !
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[An Alan Smithee Nation]

The point is will it be paid attention to. Is your understanding of British politics so limited that you do not get that?

Do you really think this one petition will actually change the way Parliament views Brexit?

That suddenly Parliament will become united around remain because of some online petition?

The hard remainders will wave it about, nobody else will care.

I missed your reply because I was watching the BBC politics spot where they were interviewing the person who started it about how it had taken off after May's speech.

[Andsed]

They still have to debate the matter. Meaning some might change their minds in favor

Consider debating the matter, if I'm reading the gov.uk site correctly.

I mean yeah but seeing as it now has over 800,000 signatures I doubt they can simply ignore it.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

[The Blaatschapen]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

Invading a country is one thing. Governing a hostile population is another.

Soldiers will die. Not necessarily during the war, but during the occupation.

innocent civilian English will die. Innocent Irish will die.

Also, any trade deal will be off the table. Pressure is easily put on Liechtenstein to withdraw from their deal with the British. No more tulips from Netherlands, no more wine from France. No more cars from Germany. Unilever, Shell and other half-British half-EU companies get forced to split up.

Invading Ireland is simply not in the cards.

But, as long as it is only one stupid person saying it, rather than an MP or other relevant figure, meh.

[Thermodolia]

Ah yes let’s invade the nation that’s apart of a group that has our greatest rivals as members and one of them has a nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

Just brilliant.

Oh let’s not forget that the diaspora of said nation we want to invade kinda has some very powerful people in the worlds superpower

Of course it is insanity. But not even the UK Parliament is stupid enough to consider it.
Just a few lunatics.

Though I am not sure the EU would fight to defend it. The EU has no will to fight, and limited capability to do so.

But it would certainly leave the UK completely isolated and crushed with massive sanctions.

Only China, Russia and co would trade with the UK after that. The UK would become a hated impoverished parish state.

Pretty sure that France would defend Ireland. As would a good many EU states. Remember the UK doesn’t have the fighting capability it once had. A united EU against the UK with US support, and the US wouldn’t let the UK invade, would curb stomp the UK.

[Thermodolia]

Set up a sea border between NI and the rest of the UK. But the DUP dont want that and they are too busy pegging the tories for it to happen anyway.

Pacify the splittist provinces!

H u z z a h !
u
z
z
a
h
!

I too want to see London as a crater.

[Dumb Ideologies]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

Invading a country is one thing. Governing a hostile population is another.

Soldiers will die. Not necessarily during the war, but during the occupation.

innocent civilian English will die. Innocent Irish will die.

Also, any trade deal will be off the table. Pressure is easily put on Liechtenstein to withdraw from their deal with the British. No more tulips from Netherlands, no more wine from France. No more cars from Germany. Unilever, Shell and other half-British half-EU companies get forced to split up.

Invading Ireland is simply not in the cards.

But, as long as it is only one stupid person saying it, rather than an MP or other relevant figure, meh.

Are you telling me the war bonds I just bought were fraudulent?

[The Blaatschapen]

Invading a country is one thing. Governing a hostile population is another.

Soldiers will die. Not necessarily during the war, but during the occupation.

innocent civilian English will die. Innocent Irish will die.

Also, any trade deal will be off the table. Pressure is easily put on Liechtenstein to withdraw from their deal with the British. No more tulips from Netherlands, no more wine from France. No more cars from Germany. Unilever, Shell and other half-British half-EU companies get forced to split up.

Invading Ireland is simply not in the cards.

But, as long as it is only one stupid person saying it, rather than an MP or other relevant figure, meh.

Are you telling me the war bonds I just bought were fraudulent?

No, no, of course not. What I sold you was totally real

[Thermodolia]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

Invading a country is one thing. Governing a hostile population is another.

Soldiers will die. Not necessarily during the war, but during the occupation.

innocent civilian English will die. Innocent Irish will die.

Also, any trade deal will be off the table. Pressure is easily put on Liechtenstein to withdraw from their deal with the British. No more tulips from Netherlands, no more wine from France. No more cars from Germany. Unilever, Shell and other half-British half-EU companies get forced to split up.

Invading Ireland is simply not in the cards.

But, as long as it is only one stupid person saying it, rather than an MP or other relevant figure, meh.

I mean that’s assuming the Brits don’t get their ass handed to them by the joint NATO-EU task force

[The Blaatschapen]

Invading a country is one thing. Governing a hostile population is another.

Soldiers will die. Not necessarily during the war, but during the occupation.

innocent civilian English will die. Innocent Irish will die.

Also, any trade deal will be off the table. Pressure is easily put on Liechtenstein to withdraw from their deal with the British. No more tulips from Netherlands, no more wine from France. No more cars from Germany. Unilever, Shell and other half-British half-EU companies get forced to split up.

Invading Ireland is simply not in the cards.

But, as long as it is only one stupid person saying it, rather than an MP or other relevant figure, meh.

I mean that’s assuming the Brits don’t get their ass handed to them by the joint NATO-EU task force

Well, a few things. Ireland is not part of NATO. And the EU does not have a unified army command structure. UK is part of NATO. In other words, NATO gets torn to shreds, and it will take time for the EUropeans to figure some of the stuff out of their own. USA, Canada, etc. will of course not join the British.

So I am not entirely sure if the EU is capable of helping out Ireland in any meaningful military way before the Irish army is overrun by the British. Unless, of course, France takes initiative on their own and manages to get a variety of other countries to join in (notably Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Spain).

[Novus America]

Of course it is insanity. But not even the UK Parliament is stupid enough to consider it.
Just a few lunatics.

Though I am not sure the EU would fight to defend it. The EU has no will to fight, and limited capability to do so.

But it would certainly leave the UK completely isolated and crushed with massive sanctions.

Only China, Russia and co would trade with the UK after that. The UK would become a hated impoverished parish state.

Pretty sure that France would defend Ireland. As would a good many EU states. Remember the UK doesn’t have the fighting capability it once had. A united EU against the UK with US support, and the US wouldn’t let the UK invade, would curb stomp the UK.

True the UK has limited capability too. The British Army too small to effectively occupy the country. Though it could be the absolutely pitiful Irish Military.

But I doubt France has the will to fight. And I doubt the US would go to war with the UK, even in that case. We have no alliance with Ireland.

Still the economic sanctions would crush the UK.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Pacify the splittist provinces!

H u z z a h !
u
z
z
a
h
!

I too want to see London as a crater.

The landscape gently wafts with fumes sulphuric, the devil has repatriated the Londonistas.

[Old Tyrannia]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

The guy who suggested this was a Remainer. Just saying. When Leavers say stupid things it's just Brexiteers being stupid, apparently, but when Remainers say stupid things this thread seems to prefer to avoid mentioning how they voted in the referendum.

But at least the Anglophobes now have an excuse to fantasise about the idea of us dumb Brits being put in our place.

[Novus America]

Invading a country is one thing. Governing a hostile population is another.

Soldiers will die. Not necessarily during the war, but during the occupation.

innocent civilian English will die. Innocent Irish will die.

Also, any trade deal will be off the table. Pressure is easily put on Liechtenstein to withdraw from their deal with the British. No more tulips from Netherlands, no more wine from France. No more cars from Germany. Unilever, Shell and other half-British half-EU companies get forced to split up.

Invading Ireland is simply not in the cards.

But, as long as it is only one stupid person saying it, rather than an MP or other relevant figure, meh.

I mean that’s assuming the Brits don’t get their ass handed to them by the joint NATO-EU task force

Considering the UK is part of NATO, and Ireland is not, I do not see what NATO can do.
And the EU lacks the command structure and political will for a joint military response.

I think there would be no military action but that sanctions would destroy the UK economy.

But it is barely worth discussion as it would never be seriously considered in the first place.

[Novus America]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

The guy who suggested this was a Remainer. Just saying. When Leavers say stupid things it's just Brexiteers being stupid, apparently, but when Remainers say stupid things this thread seems to prefer to avoid mentioning how they voted in the referendum.

But at least the Anglophobes now have an excuse to fantasise about the idea of us dumb Brits being put in our place.

Well the whole idea is absurd. There is absolutely no way the UK would try attacking Ireland over it.

You can find a few fringe but jobs to advocate for pretty much anything.
But it does not mean anything.
It is really not newsworthy that there are some insane lunatics out there.

[The Huskar Social Union]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

The guy who suggested this was a Remainer. Just saying. When Leavers say stupid things it's just Brexiteers being stupid, apparently, but when Remainers say stupid things this thread seems to prefer to avoid mentioning how they voted in the referendum.

But at least the Anglophobes now have an excuse to fantasise about the idea of us dumb Brits being put in our place.

I know he was, he is still a fucking moron.

[Vassenor]

They've crashed the site again. 810K+.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

You seem to be taking the suggestion shouted out by one idiot more seriously than a petition signed by hundreds of thousands of people.

[Thermodolia]

Pretty sure that France would defend Ireland. As would a good many EU states. Remember the UK doesn’t have the fighting capability it once had. A united EU against the UK with US support, and the US wouldn’t let the UK invade, would curb stomp the UK.

True the UK has limited capability too. The British Army too small to effectively occupy the country. Though it could be the absolutely pitiful Irish Military.

But I doubt France has the will to fight. And I doubt the US would go to war with the UK, even in that case. We have no alliance with Ireland.

Still the economic sanctions would crush the UK.

There’s enough pro-Irish sentiments in the US to crush any trade deal with the UK that doesn’t keep Irish border open. If the UK invade Ireland you’d have several hundred politicians calling for the UK PM’s head

[Novus America]

True the UK has limited capability too. The British Army too small to effectively occupy the country. Though it could be the absolutely pitiful Irish Military.

But I doubt France has the will to fight. And I doubt the US would go to war with the UK, even in that case. We have no alliance with Ireland.

Still the economic sanctions would crush the UK.

There’s enough pro-Irish sentiments in the US to crush any trade deal with the UK that doesn’t keep Irish border open. If the UK invade Ireland you’d have several hundred politicians calling for the UK PM’s head

The US would certainly be very pissed. And sanctions would crush the UK economy.
But really it is not worth serious discussion. It was only one random nutjob calling for it.
It is not being seriously considered.

[The Blaatschapen]

You seem to be taking the suggestion shouted out by one idiot more seriously than a petition signed by hundreds of thousands of people.

Because tearing the idiotic suggestion down is more fun and very easily done by all sides of the debate

[The Blaatschapen]

“We’ve invaded Iraq, we’ve invaded Afghanistan, why not Ireland?"

The fact that some people, seriously believe this is a valid solution to the UKs brexit problems, is just sad.

Also if you think the EU would literally do nothing when an EU member state is invaded, im sorry your a fucking retard.

The guy who suggested this was a Remainer. Just saying. When Leavers say stupid things it's just Brexiteers being stupid, apparently, but when Remainers say stupid things this thread seems to prefer to avoid mentioning how they voted in the referendum.

But at least the Anglophobes now have an excuse to fantasise about the idea of us dumb Brits being put in our place.

I take offense to this!

I don't need an excuse to put British in their place