Moldovan Elections - A Victory for Socialism

[Astoriya]

Moldova is perhaps the most inconsequential state in Eastern Europe.

cough cough Transnistria cough the Crimea cough

[Free Arabian Nation]

Transnistria should annex Moldovia

[TURTLESHROOM II]

I guess the Moldovites enjoy having a lower GDP than many African countries, considering they are voting in a Marxist suicide pact. I miss when Moldova was on the "Most Likely to Restore Its Monarchy" list.

That said, they are Euro-Skeptic, which immediately makes them better than any pro-EU party.

[Cerinda]

I wonder what will happen next for Moldova?

Also remember when they supported the Liberian government in the country's second civil war?

[Chestaan]

Socialists that are Euro-skeptics? Is Moldova The Twilight Zone or what?

Pretty much all socialists are euro-skeptic to some degree or another. Although I do mean socialists and not soc-dems calling themselves socialists.

[Shofercia]

Moldova is perhaps the most inconsequential state in Eastern Europe.

Transnistria would like to have a word.

I think he was referring to UN member states. Otherwise - wouldn't it be Northern Cyprus?

Moldova is perhaps the most inconsequential state in Eastern Europe.

cough cough Transnistria cough the Crimea cough

Crimea isn't independent by any stretch of the imagination.

Transnistria should annex Moldovia

Why? Prednistrovie, (actual name for Transnistria) and Moldova are in talks about bridging the current gap. Sometimes you want slow and steady to win the race.

I guess the Moldovites enjoy having a lower GDP than many African countries, considering they are voting in a Marxist suicide pact. I miss when Moldova was on the "Most Likely to Restore Its Monarchy" list.

That said, they are Euro-Skeptic, which immediately makes them better than any pro-EU party.

In case you missed it - the other choices were Communists and EPP.

I wonder what will happen next for Moldova?

Also remember when they supported the Liberian government in the country's second civil war?

You do know I can read Russian, right? The source claims that Moldovan Oligarchs allegedly sold weapons from former Soviet warehouses to numerous African countries, including Liberia. Soviet weapons were made to last. As a result, an AK produced in the 50s, was no longer needed by anyone in Moldova, but could be sold to someone in Africa. Numerous post-Soviet countries engaged in this type of shenanigans, but it wasn't to support country A or country B - it was to sell weapons for profit. The missing units were 200,000 AK-47s. The only thing that the prosecutors were able to prove, was that 200,000 AK-47s were missing, not that they actually went to Liberia.

[Shofercia]

Anyways, election update: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mold ... SKCN1QE11O

The outcome of Sunday’s contest sets the stage for coalition talks or possibly new elections, just as the country has recovered from a political and economic crisis following a $1 billion banking scandal in 2014 and 2015. Adding to the uncertainty, opposition leaders threatened street protests after raising suspicions of vote-buying. The opposition Socialists, who favor closer ties to Moscow, emerged as the largest party with 35 out of 101 seats on a revised estimate, with recounts possible in some constituencies.

The ruling Democratic Party, which wants closer integration with the EU, came second with 30 seats while an opposition bloc called ACUM, campaigning to fight corruption, was third with 26 seats. Democratic leader Vladimir Plahotniuc said his party was “ready for negotiations on forming a majority and approving a new government”, adding, “I hope that such negotiations take place as soon as possible”. Corruption scandals and worries over the health of democracy in Moldova, which is squeezed between Ukraine and EU member Romania and is one of Europe’s poorest countries, have tarnished the country’s image and weakened the appeal of the pro-Western political class.

The Socialist Party said its lawyers were studying reported election violations and declared it may not recognize the results. ACUM leader Maia Sandu said her bloc did not recognize the elections as free and democratic. The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) said the elections were “generally well-run” but “tainted by allegations of pressure on public employees, strong indications of vote buying and the misuse of state resources”.

President Igor Dodon, formerly head of the Socialist Party, said it would become clear only in the coming weeks whether the election was above board. He raised the prospect of calling a new election in June if the vote was declared illegitimate or no party managed to form a coalition. Dodon on Saturday had called the campaign “one of the dirtiest in our entire history”. Plahotniuc, an oil-to-hotels tycoon, could repeat a feat he achieved at a previous election in 2014, of cobbling together a coalition despite not winning a majority.

He may woo a smaller party led by Ilan Shor, who just two years ago was convicted of fraud and money-laundering for his part in a scam to pilfer $1 billion out of three banks, the equivalent of an eighth of Moldova’s national output in what Moldovans call the “theft of the century”. Shor denied wrongdoing and said he was made a scapegoat. After time spent under house arrest, he became mayor of the central town of Orhei while his appeal was heard. His party won 7 seats on Sunday.

I should note that I've also studied individual results, and that the Socialists can win elections outright, if they campaign properly. Speaking of Moldova's electoral history: during "muh independence" a radical party came to power, demanding Union with Romania, which led to war, the collapse of Government Institutions, and a lot of shit. As a result, the Agrarian Party took power after the war, and had their power reaffirmed in the 1994 elections. However, in 1998, they were ousted by Democrats and Liberals, who built their own coalition.

Their governorship as disastrous, and the Moldovan People responded by bring the Communists back to power. Voronin's Communists won 71 seats, scoring the biggest victory in Moldova's elections in 2001. The Communists won elections in 2004, and 2009. However, due to inner party disputes, Voronin called for election review, and another election was held, also in 2009. The Communists lost the majority, and the Democrats came to power. Remembering their experience in 2001, they introduced moderate reforms. These reforms were reaffirmed in the 2010 elections, when they won a combined 59 seats.

This brings us to the 2014 elections. Rightfully angry at Voronin's leadership, (which has been degrading since '09) to Socialists split from the Communist Block, forming the Socialist Party of Moldova. They won 24 seats Commies won 21 seats, and the Democratic coalition won the remaining 56 seats. Oh yeah, during this period, a billion dollars sort of disappeared from Moldovan Banks. Whoopsie.

When a billion dollars disappears, people are angry. Maia Sandu saw that as her chance to grab Moldova's Government, with EPP's assistance and pledge to totally not intervene in the affairs of other countries. So she formed her own party, ACUM. In response, the Democrats and Socialists slightly modified Moldova's election rules.

Instead of having candidates elected on a system of proportional representation, the new rules stated that half of the candidates would be elected by a proportional system, and 51 new districts would be created, where the Socialists and Democrats were likely to win, due to the first past the post system. The EU was angry at the change, but, in theory, the new system is actually more democratic, as it gives the voters a chance to vote for their representative, and their party, rather than just voting for their party. This brings us to today.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

But why? Moldova is already a shithole; there's no need to make it worse.

[Bear Stearns]

Moldova is perhaps the most inconsequential state in Eastern Europe.

This is like caring about Jamaican elections.

[Cerinda]

I wonder what will happen next for Moldova?

Also remember when they supported the Liberian government in the country's second civil war?

You do know I can read Russian, right? The source claims that Moldovan Oligarchs allegedly sold weapons from former Soviet warehouses to numerous African countries, including Liberia. Soviet weapons were made to last. As a result, an AK produced in the 50s, was no longer needed by anyone in Moldova, but could be sold to someone in Africa. Numerous post-Soviet countries engaged in this type of shenanigans, but it wasn't to support country A or country B - it was to sell weapons for profit. The missing units were 200,000 AK-47s. The only thing that the prosecutors were able to prove, was that 200,000 AK-47s were missing, not that they actually went to Liberia.

Oh no don't get me wrong I'm not saying anything bad about Moldova, I was just wondering as to why they were supporting some random dicatroial government in Africa, but thanks for clearing that up, I aplogise if my post seemed rude or negative at all.

[Shofercia]

You do know I can read Russian, right? The source claims that Moldovan Oligarchs allegedly sold weapons from former Soviet warehouses to numerous African countries, including Liberia. Soviet weapons were made to last. As a result, an AK produced in the 50s, was no longer needed by anyone in Moldova, but could be sold to someone in Africa. Numerous post-Soviet countries engaged in this type of shenanigans, but it wasn't to support country A or country B - it was to sell weapons for profit. The missing units were 200,000 AK-47s. The only thing that the prosecutors were able to prove, was that 200,000 AK-47s were missing, not that they actually went to Liberia.

Oh no don't get me wrong I'm not saying anything bad about Moldova, I was just wondering as to why they supporting some random dicatroial government in Africa, but thanks for clearing that up, I aplogise if my post seemed rude or negative at all.

It's all good, and thank you for clarifying that

Moldova is perhaps the most inconsequential state in Eastern Europe.

This is like caring about Jamaican elections.

If you don't think that these elections are important, why are you reading the thread? This isn't Ukraine, aka Europe's Comedy Tour. This is just a small country in Europe, trying to figure out how to survive.

[Bear Stearns]

Oh no don't get me wrong I'm not saying anything bad about Moldova, I was just wondering as to why they supporting some random dicatroial government in Africa, but thanks for clearing that up, I aplogise if my post seemed rude or negative at all.

It's all good, and thank you for clarifying that

This is like caring about Jamaican elections.

If you don't think that these elections are important, why are you reading the thread? This isn't Ukraine, aka Europe's Comedy Tour. This is just a small country in Europe, trying to figure out how to survive.

The world revolves around a few Anglosphere cities + Tokyo & Paris.

[Shofercia]

The world revolves around a few Anglosphere cities + Tokyo & Paris.

Odd. I thought the World revolved around its axis.

[Rio Cana]

Someone mentioned that Moldova was annexed by the Russians to control the Danube. The Danube only borders 480 meters of Moldova. Today, Moldova has a small port there which handles oil shipments. Ukraine borders much more of the Danube. But most of the mouth of the Danube is in Romania. When the Danube turns into a Delta, it breaks into three channels before flowing into the sea. The Southern channel and the main center channel are completely in Romania. The Northern and longer channel divides Romania and Ukraine.

Someone mentioned that Moldova relys on Russian gas via pipelines traveling through Ukraine. Seems some here have not been keeping up to date. Romania has been supplying Moldova with gas. The pipeline is to be extended to the Moldova's capital city. Romania has also been concentrating on supplying there own energy needs via domestic supplies which should also benefit Moldova.

Read this latest news - https://www.uawire.org/moldova-begins-c ... ply-system
and this
https://seenews.com/news/moldovas-unghe ... ila-639755

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I think that this was an interesting election to watch on a Sunday, much more exciting than this year's Superbowl.

True, but that was a brutal way to destroy this year’s crap.

[Kowani]

The world revolves around a few Anglosphere cities + Tokyo & Paris.

Odd. I thought the World revolved around its axis.

The world must certainly does not revolve around Moldova.

[Shofercia]

Odd. I thought the World revolved around its axis.

The world must certainly does not revolve around Moldova.

But this thread must certainly does.