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How could the Axis Powers win WW2?

Postby Orange-Transvaal » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:09 pm

Hey, I was just wondering what the NS community thought about how an Axis victory in WW2
My only rule for this discussion is that I want an at least good answer, not "HiTlEr DuMb. jUSt dONt iNvaDe rUsSiA iN WiNteR."
Otherwise, post anything you want, as I am interested in your answers.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:10 pm

Hitler was dumb, don’t invade the Soviets period.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:11 pm

By not being Nazis.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:11 pm

Orange-Transvaal wrote:Hey, I was just wondering what the NS community thought about how an Axis victory in WW2
My only rule for this discussion is that I want an at least good answer, not "HiTlEr DuMb. jUSt dONt iNvaDe rUsSiA iN WiNteR."
Otherwise, post anything you want, as I am interested in your answers.

Well, for one, Italy should've had better infrastructure, and properly military training. Their army was pretty weak in WWII to the point they had trouble with their own invasion of France in 1940.
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Postby Frachen » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:11 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Hitler was dumb, don’t invade the Soviets period.

Agreed...if he didn't attack the USSR they might have won
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Postby Northern Jackaia » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:11 pm

get nukes before da USA
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:12 pm

Ifreann wrote:By not being Nazis.

You have won the internet for the day.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:12 pm

Orange-Transvaal wrote:Hey, I was just wondering what the NS community thought about how an Axis victory in WW2
My only rule for this discussion is that I want an at least good answer, not "HiTlEr DuMb. jUSt dONt iNvaDe rUsSiA iN WiNteR."
Otherwise, post anything you want, as I am interested in your answers.

It's considered polite, at the very least, for you to provide something more to get the discussion going, plus your own opinion.

And Hitler didn't invade Russia in the winter. Barbarossa started in June.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:12 pm

I'm not staff, but you definitely want to expand your op. To answer your question, if the Nazis didn't stupidly invade Russia, they probably would have had a better chance at winning. Thankfully Hitler wasn't that smart.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:12 pm

Orange-Transvaal wrote:Hey, I was just wondering what the NS community thought about how an Axis victory in WW2
My only rule for this discussion is that I want an at least good answer, not "HiTlEr DuMb. jUSt dONt iNvaDe rUsSiA iN WiNteR."
Otherwise, post anything you want, as I am interested in your answers.


Honestly, they were pretty much done after Sealion turned into a damp squib. And it's debatable if that would have even have had a chance at succeeding anyway.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:12 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Ifreann wrote:By not being Nazis.

You have won the internet for the day.

And at 11pm, awesome.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:12 pm

Ifreann wrote:By not being Nazis.

You can’t win a war if you don’t make it even happen.
NOT STORMTROOPERS
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

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Postby Jolthig » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:13 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm not staff, but you definitely want to expand your op. To answer your question, if the Nazis didn't stupidly invade Russia, they probably would have had a better chance at winning. Thankfully Hitler wasn't that smart.

Because dem slavic commies. That's why
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“Und Mirza”

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Postby Jolthig » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Jolthig wrote:You have won the internet for the day.

And at 11pm, awesome.

:rofl:
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Kowani wrote:
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“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Bjonk » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:14 pm

Orange-Transvaal wrote:Hey, I was just wondering what the NS community thought about how an Axis victory in WW2
My only rule for this discussion is that I want an at least good answer, not "HiTlEr DuMb. jUSt dONt iNvaDe rUsSiA iN WiNteR."
Otherwise, post anything you want, as I am interested in your answers.

Just a thought but uh...

Don't have a war to begin with when you just got back on your feet economically cause some Italian guy made another shitty form of socialism?

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Postby Jolthig » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:14 pm

Bjonk wrote:
Orange-Transvaal wrote:Hey, I was just wondering what the NS community thought about how an Axis victory in WW2
My only rule for this discussion is that I want an at least good answer, not "HiTlEr DuMb. jUSt dONt iNvaDe rUsSiA iN WiNteR."
Otherwise, post anything you want, as I am interested in your answers.

Just a thought but uh...

Don't have a war to begin with when you just got back on your feet economically cause some Italian guy made another shitty form of socialism?

Not socialism.

Corporatism.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Orange-Transvaal » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:14 pm

My opinion is that they couldnt win as nazis. If they were a different ideology they could used the Slavs in the western Soviet Union to their advantage.
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Postby The Wiganese Islands » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:15 pm

If Japan hadn't have attacked Pearl Horbor, and Germany didn't betray the Soviets, then both superpowers wouldn't have joined the war, and an Axis victory could have occured.
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Postby Azlaake » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:15 pm

Northern Jackaia wrote:get nukes before da USA

But they killed many Jewish scientists or they fled, so they couldn't have!!!
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:15 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm not staff, but you definitely want to expand your op. To answer your question, if the Nazis didn't stupidly invade Russia, they probably would have had a better chance at winning. Thankfully Hitler wasn't that smart.

Copying Napoleon and not allotting enough time was a dumb move. Napoleon got beaten even when Russia’s military was outdated and weak. The Soviets grew stronger from previous years.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:15 pm

Orange-Transvaal wrote:My opinion is that they couldnt win as nazis. If they were a different ideology they could used the Slavs in the eastern Soviet Union to their advantage.

The eastern Soviet Union? Like in Vladivostok?

And have you added to the OP like I asked?
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:16 pm

Orange-Transvaal wrote:My opinion is that they couldnt win as nazis. If they were a different ideology they could used the Slavs in the eastern Soviet Union to their advantage.

Well, if you look at the economic, and political background of Germany at the time, the Nazis had a pretty good chance at winning over German sympathy because of their anger towards the former allies for being so harsh with them over Versailles
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“Und Mirza”

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:16 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Ifreann wrote:By not being Nazis.

You can’t win a war if you don’t make it even happen.

You defeat a superior enemy by denying them battle, so denying them war is a guaranteed win.
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Postby Darmen » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:16 pm

In addition to not invading Soviet Russia, getting the assistance of the Spanish would have helped immensely, especially early in the war. At attack on Gibraltar and cutting off British maritime access to the Mediterranean would have given the Germans a much easier time subduing the likes of Cyprus, Malta and Northern Africa. In the end however I don't see anyway the Axis could have won the war, even if they had acquired nukes (they're only helpful if you have some way to get them to their target, the German's would have had to cross an entire ocean, while the American's would have only had to cross the English Channel).
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