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Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:29 am**

Hystaria wrote:..what stops them killing me after i give them my wallets, i should fight when i have the chance.

So what tactics are you planning to use to take on three armed men?

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:32 am**

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Hystaria wrote:..what stops them killing me after i give them my wallets, i should fight when i have the chance.

So what tactics are you planning to use to take on three armed men?

He's going to punch one of them, be immediately stabbed by the other two, and then bleed to death while they run off with his money.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:32 am**

Who tries to rob a dog?

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:34 am**

Dogmeat wrote:Who tries to rob a dog?

A cat burglar? :unsure:

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:35 am**

Dogmeat wrote:Who tries to rob a dog?

If a dog had 3K on them, people would rob it...

Or give it a scooby snack in exchange for money

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:41 am**

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Who tries to rob a dog?

A cat burglar?

Wouldn't a cat burglar rob a cat?

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:47 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
What stops them killing you is the fact they don't want to be arrested for murder. Muggers very rarely kill people on purpose. In fact, deciding to fight makes it far more likely they will kill you.

and mugging a military personnel is better? They would be arrested either way, and if I think if they resorted to mugging and they think i have more stuff on me, I may be harmed anyway.

Er... they are interested in your wallet. Either you give it to them, run really fast or try and fight.

It really doesn't matter how tough you are. Three people with knives mean you might just survive if someone notices you bleeding to death in the gutter. Maybe.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:55 am**

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Hystaria wrote:..what stops them killing me after i give them my wallets, i should fight when i have the chance.

So what tactics are you planning to use to take on three armed men?

Gun and run.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:56 am**

Hystaria wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
So what tactics are you planning to use to take on three armed men?

Gun and run.

The OP states you're unarmed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:57 am**

Hystaria wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
So what tactics are you planning to use to take on three armed men?

Gun and run.

From that distance, you might hit ONE before being killed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:02 am**

Heloin wrote:
Hystaria wrote:Gun and run.

The OP states you're unarmed.

Hit and run, or whatever its called.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:03 am**

Heloin wrote:
Hystaria wrote:Gun and run.

The OP states you're unarmed.

Hold out your fingers miming a gun and make 'pew! Pew! Pew!' Noises?

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:04 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Heloin wrote:The OP states you're unarmed.

Hit and run, or whatever its called.

Congratulations. You have just been stabbed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:06 am**

Caracasus wrote:
Hystaria wrote:Hit and run, or whatever its called.

Congratulations. You have just been stabbed.

...I think a military trained person, Specifically meant to fight these type of people, with only knives. Could fight back against three, and at worst be harmed, but not dead.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:09 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Heloin wrote:The OP states you're unarmed.

Hit and run, or whatever its called.

Heloin wrote:He's going to punch one of them, be immediately stabbed by the other two, and then bleed to death while they run off with his money.
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Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:11 am**

Heloin wrote:
Hystaria wrote:Hit and run, or whatever its called.

Heloin wrote:He's going to punch one of them, be immediately stabbed by the other two, and then bleed to death while they run off with his money.
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...You think that is how you fight off multiple people?

I think your character is smarter than that.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:13 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Congratulations. You have just been stabbed.

...I think a military trained person, Specifically meant to fight these type of people, with only knives. Could fight back against three, and at worst be harmed, but not dead.

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-fight-multiple-assailants/

"artofmanliness"
lol

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:16 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Congratulations. You have just been stabbed.

...I think a military trained person, Specifically meant to fight these type of people, with only knives. Could fight back against three, and at worst be harmed, but not dead.

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-fight-multiple-assailants/

No actual professional fighter would ever ever advise that you fight in this situation. You will almost certainly lose and probably die.

If you are close enough to hit someone, they are close enough to stab you.

In movies, the goons attack one at a time. In real life they would rush you and get you.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:19 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Heloin wrote:

...You think that is how you fight off multiple people?

I think your character is smarter than that.

The character I was describing was you, if you checked to see were the quote came from.

Your options and results are as follows.
1 - You punch them. No matter what the next step you planned for after this you've already been stabbed.
2 - You run. Ricky option since they may chase you but you also may get away or they won't care to chase you.
3 - Hand them your wallet. Unless you are some sort of spy or messenger carrying highly secret information there is no way what is in your wallet is more important then your life.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:19 am**

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Caracasus wrote:In this thread: people who have zero idea how violence or fighting works in the real world.

Always, always hand over your wallet in this scenario. Any self defense or martial arts instructor worth their pay will tell you exactly the same.

Yeah, I remember a story about a black belt getting robbed. I can’t imagine beating up several people with knives. Years of inconsistently going to martial arts isn’t enough to make up for being that outnumbered and overpowered. Given what I ever carry, I wouldn’t have anything useful enough. Sadly, kill them all doesn’t work in this scenario.

I’m ok at MCMAP, MACP, and Krav Maga.

I still wouldn’t fight them. A knife fight is the bloodiest fight possible. If I don’t have a gun on me, 80% of the time I carry one, i would not engage

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:20 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Congratulations. You have just been stabbed.

...I think a military trained person, Specifically meant to fight these type of people, with only knives. Could fight back against three, and at worst be harmed, but not dead.

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-fight-multiple-assailants/

Well, if some tough guys on the internet think they can win, then I'm convinced.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:21 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:this is a very brave forum

over 50% of posters would fight

I'm impressed by the True Courage

That’s not courage, it’s stupidity. I’d wager that 80% of NSG would shit themselves in such a situation. I’m trained in three different combatives and I still wouldn’t go up against three guys with knives

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:21 am**

Heloin wrote:
Hystaria wrote:...You think that is how you fight off multiple people?

I think your character is smarter than that.

The character I was describing was you, if you checked to see were the quote came from.

Your options and results are as follows.
1 - You punch them. No matter what the next step you planned for after this you've already been stabbed.
2 - You run. Ricky option since they may chase you but you also may get away or they won't care to chase you.
3 - Hand them your wallet. Unless you are some sort of spy or messenger carrying highly secret information there is no way what is in your wallet is more important then your life.

3 - Hand them your wallet.
And they are hardened criminals, do you think that they would leave me afterwords? To tell the police, and if they stalk me so i wont tell, how is that better?

I more mean to combine 1 and two to get away.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:23 am**

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:this is a very brave forum

over 50% of posters would fight

I'm impressed by the True Courage

That’s not courage, it’s stupidity. I’d wager that 80% of NSG would shit themselves in such a situation. I’m trained in three different combatives and I still wouldn’t go up against three guys with knives

What did your instructors advise regarding situations like this? I am guessing it was 'don't risk your life over your wallet.'

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:24 am**

Hystaria wrote:
Heloin wrote:The character I was describing was you, if you checked to see were the quote came from.

Your options and results are as follows.
1 - You punch them. No matter what the next step you planned for after this you've already been stabbed.
2 - You run. Ricky option since they may chase you but you also may get away or they won't care to chase you.
3 - Hand them your wallet. Unless you are some sort of spy or messenger carrying highly secret information there is no way what is in your wallet is more important then your life.

3 - Hand them your wallet.
And they are hardened criminals, do you think that they would leave me afterwords? To tell the police, and if they stalk me so i wont tell, how is that better?

I more mean to combine 1 and two to get away.

Of course they would leave you. They want money or stuff they can sell and they want to get away. If they get pulled up by the police, they don't want to get done for murder.

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