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Len Hyet
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:36 am

Heloin wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:
???

???????

What does this sentence mean?

We've cut off your arms.

Hm.

That would make it difficult to shoot them.

Do I have a roboarm? Or better yet, a Warhammer 40K mechadendrite?
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Free Arabian Nation
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:40 am

Len Hyet wrote:
Heloin wrote:We've cut off your arms.

Hm.

That would make it difficult to shoot them.

Do I have a roboarm? Or better yet, a Warhammer 40K mechadendrite?

No, you have stubs with tiny knives attached.
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Len Hyet
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Len Hyet » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:41 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Hm.

That would make it difficult to shoot them.

Do I have a roboarm? Or better yet, a Warhammer 40K mechadendrite?

No, you have stubs with tiny knives attached.

Ooh.

I charge shoulder first, pinwheeling my stubs in two tiny circles of death!
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:42 am

Len Hyet wrote:
You are unarmed


???

???????

What does this sentence mean?

Both of your arms have been deleted from this hypothetical
NOT STORMTROOPERS
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Nea Videssos
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Nea Videssos » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:44 am

Ifreann wrote:
My wallet and its contents are probably worth about $5, and that is being generous. My clothes are probably worth more than my wallet, so the muggers will probably ask for those instead.

I'm gonna get raped, aren't I?

You'll have to give the muggers the most valuable thing you can.

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Reminds me of this.
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:47 am

I'd fight them and try to get an opening to escape. Not because I think it's a good idea, but because that's 3k. I can't afford to lose 3k. I'd sooner risk my life than ruin it.
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An Alan Smithee Nation
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:07 am

Do you value your life at more than $3000?
Everything is intertwinkled

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Salandriagado
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:12 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:No, seriously who carries 3000 USD (GBP, Euro) with them at night, alone?

Oooooh, i'm a drugs dealer, aren't I? :lol:

The only kinds of people that carry around that kind of cash as an everyday occurrence must be into some really dirty deals.


Erm... is this a bad time to mention that I once carried £5k in cash across Coventry city centre at 2am (and yes, it was shitting terrifying, especially since it was in small quantities, with plenty of coins in, so really bloody obvious).
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Salandriagado
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:13 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:No they wouldn't, 50% think they would fight.


what do you mean by this?


How people say they would react on the internet has essentially no relation to how they'd actually react. (It's either "run away" or "surrender", for something within a rounding error of everybody).
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:13 am

Salandriagado wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The only kinds of people that carry around that kind of cash as an everyday occurrence must be into some really dirty deals.


Erm... is this a bad time to mention that I once carried £5k in cash across Coventry city centre at 2am (and yes, it was shitting terrifying, especially since it was in small quantities, with plenty of coins in, so really bloody obvious).


When exactly?

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Jebslund
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Jebslund » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:14 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:No, seriously who carries 3000 USD (GBP, Euro) with them at night, alone?

Oooooh, i'm a drugs dealer, aren't I? :lol:

The only kinds of people that carry around that kind of cash as an everyday occurrence must be into some really dirty deals.

But I thought dirty deeds were done dirt cheap?
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:15 am

Lanoraie II wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:More like 50% are so greedy they value their wallet over their life. This isn’t courage, it’s stupidity. It’s brave when you are risking death for something abstractly valuable to you. Getting yourself killed or seriously injured over money you don’t need it pointless.


No offense, but I get this feeling you've never had to worry about what will pay for your next meal. If your life is in the gutter, money and good luck is all you have to pull yourself out of it. Love might keep you sane longer, but unless someone's giving you a place to stay and eat for free, or a job, it won't get you anywhere.


How big, exactly, do you think the intersection between "people have to worry about how they're going to pay for their next meal" and "people who carry around $3k in cash" is?
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Salandriagado
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:16 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:More like 50% are so greedy they value their wallet over their life. This isn’t courage, it’s stupidity. It’s brave when you are risking death for something abstractly valuable to you. Getting yourself killed or seriously injured over money you don’t need it pointless.


what if they did so out of a sense of honour?

warrior's pride etc?


Then they're fucking stupid.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Hystaria
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Postby Hystaria » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:16 am

You think I wouldn't have my own weapons on me as well?

I would fight, but mainly to escape.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:16 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Do you value your life at more than $3000?

Money doesn’t matter if you’re dead.
NOT STORMTROOPERS
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Caracasus
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:17 am

Salandriagado wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The only kinds of people that carry around that kind of cash as an everyday occurrence must be into some really dirty deals.


Erm... is this a bad time to mention that I once carried £5k in cash across Coventry city centre at 2am (and yes, it was shitting terrifying, especially since it was in small quantities, with plenty of coins in, so really bloody obvious).


Huh. Well just let me know if and when you plan to do it again!

Most I've carried was 700 quid as a deposit for a reasonably dodgy landlord. All in 50's. That was galling to part with.
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An Alan Smithee Nation
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:18 am

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Do you value your life at more than $3000?

Money doesn’t matter if you’re dead.


Neither does pride, honour etc.
Everything is intertwinkled

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Salandriagado
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:19 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Hmm, I'm torn on this one. On one hand you are supposedly a highly trained operator in hand to hand combat, while the 3 thugs do not possess such training, and the only weapon they possess is a knife. Seems to me it would all depend on how the fight goes down and whether or not, our trained self is able to neutralize one threat for a knife or use what ever is available to use as a melee weapon. Would tossing your wallet just out of the reach of the furthest thug with a knife gain an advantage to neutralize the closest threat?

Or I guess one could go on a revenge mission after giving up your wallet and kill all three at a later time or kill everyone they know and love and leave the three thugs as cripples for the rest of their lives knowing they lost everything dear to them over a 1000 dollars a piece.

Either way, it is a tall order in taking on all 3.


What the "being a highly trained fighter" bit gives you is the absolute knowledge that you can't actually take on 3 people in any kind of real-world situation.

And also that any fight involving knives is one in which everybody involved is probably going to die or be seriously injured, regardless of anything else. (This, incidentally, is why carrying a knife in self-defence is stupid: it massively increases the chance of you dying if you do end up in a fight).
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Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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The Grims
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Postby The Grims » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:19 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:No, seriously who carries 3000 USD (GBP, Euro) with them at night, alone?

Oooooh, i'm a drugs dealer, aren't I? :lol:


We could always change it to you wearing a 3k watch ;)

Or wedding ring, meaning it would also have emotional value.
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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:20 am

The Grims wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:No, seriously who carries 3000 USD (GBP, Euro) with them at night, alone?

Oooooh, i'm a drugs dealer, aren't I? :lol:


We could always change it to you waering a 3k watch ;)


I got a 600 euro phone that tells me the time.

Wait... :unsure:
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Salandriagado
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:22 am

The Grims wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:No, seriously who carries 3000 USD (GBP, Euro) with them at night, alone?

Oooooh, i'm a drugs dealer, aren't I? :lol:


We could always change it to you wearing a 3k watch ;)

Or wedding ring, meaning it would also have emotional value.


If I can afford such a thing, I can afford insurance on it. If I didn't insure it, I'm a fucking idiot.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Hystaria
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Postby Hystaria » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:22 am

..what stops them killing me after i give them my wallets, i should fight when i have the chance.
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i swear my eternal service to the lasaga lord and wish to spread it to all i meet .
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Kowani wrote:Hystaria. They’re both edgy, but only one of them is a special kind of edgy.

I dont use NS states, I use factbooks.

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Caracasus
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:24 am

Hystaria wrote:..what stops them killing me after i give them my wallets, i should fight when i have the chance.


What stops them killing you is the fact they don't want to be arrested for murder. Muggers very rarely kill people on purpose. In fact, deciding to fight makes it far more likely they will kill you.
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:24 am

Hystaria wrote:..what stops them killing me after i give them my wallets, i should fight when i have the chance.


The tremendous increase of police resources being used on finding a street murderer as opposed to a mere mugging. And the increase of jail time, etc. then as well.
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Hystaria
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Postby Hystaria » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:27 am

Caracasus wrote:
Hystaria wrote:..what stops them killing me after i give them my wallets, i should fight when i have the chance.


What stops them killing you is the fact they don't want to be arrested for murder. Muggers very rarely kill people on purpose. In fact, deciding to fight makes it far more likely they will kill you.

and mugging a military personnel is better? They would be arrested either way, and if I think if they resorted to mugging and they think i have more stuff on me, I may be harmed anyway.
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Power Comparator: (see below)5.2, according to this index.

(Please quote me in forums to find your response, please, that would be nice.)
Trade with me, trade without Idelogys harming us, Money doesn't care what side you are on.
i swear my eternal service to the lasaga lord and wish to spread it to all i meet .
[spoiler= Official Allies]Bolkenia
Kowani wrote:Hystaria. They’re both edgy, but only one of them is a special kind of edgy.

I dont use NS states, I use factbooks.

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