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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:14 am

Kowani wrote:Why is this an issue, exactly?

Because "muh traditional family values" or whatever.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:16 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Kowani wrote:Why is this an issue, exactly?

Because "muh traditional family values" or whatever.


Third parent is best parent.

The third wheel is the stabilizing wheel, remember?

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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:16 am

Valentine Z wrote:I am kind of fine with it. I mean, it's not hurting anyone, and it is awareness, you know?

I know it's France, but... come on. Make it Parent Numero Uno, and Parent Numero Dos.

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Postby Dazchan » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:17 am

I have now checked all six Australian states. Three do not put their enrollment forms online, and of the three that do, they all use some variant of “Parent 1” and “Parent 2”. Is it newsworthy in France purely because they’re so late to the party?
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:17 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Because "muh traditional family values" or whatever.


Third parent is best parent.

The third wheel is the stabilizing wheel, remember?

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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:23 am

Kowani wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I am kind of fine with it. I mean, it's not hurting anyone, and it is awareness, you know?

I know it's France, but... come on. Make it Parent Numero Uno, and Parent Numero Dos.

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Kowani wrote:Why is this an issue, exactly?


C-can this be turned into a NS Issue?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:24 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Third parent is best parent.

The third wheel is the stabilizing wheel, remember?

*taps head*

*gives this post the polyamorous stamp of approval*


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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:27 am

Valentine Z wrote:
Kowani wrote:Premier Parent & Second Parent.
If thou must French, do it right! (Even though I probably messed up the genders.)


Oui, Monsieur ! Désolé pour l'erreur ! :P

Non, mon ami, pas de problème. Je suis heureux d’aider le cause du français.

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Kowani wrote:Why is this an issue, exactly?


C-can this be turned into a NS Issue?

I’m sure someone can... Actually, yeah, go for it.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:37 am

Kowani wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:
Oui, Monsieur ! Désolé pour l'erreur ! :P

Non, mon ami, pas de problème. Je suis heureux d’aider le cause du français.

Valentine Z wrote:
C-can this be turned into a NS Issue?

I’m sure someone can... Actually, yeah, go for it.


>"le cause du français"

It’s LA cause, not LE cause damnit!

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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:40 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Kowani wrote:Non, mon ami, pas de problème. Je suis heureux d’aider le cause du français.


I’m sure someone can... Actually, yeah, go for it.


>"le cause du français"

It’s LA cause, not LE cause damnit!

I knew I’d mess up the genders eventually!
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:42 am

All proof if any was needed that France is lost.
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Postby Wunderstrafanstalt » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:43 am

Why not just put "Guardian: Jean Dupont, Martin Dupont" on legal paper or something? If you think father - father makes sense then guardian-guardian makes more sense.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:44 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:All proof if any was needed that France is lost.

Yeah, how dare they change words on a school form to not be factually incorrect.
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Postby Page » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:45 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:All proof if any was needed that France is lost.


You're not even being sarcastic, are you?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:45 am

Shouldn't that be "Luc, I am your Parent 1"?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:47 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:All proof if any was needed that France is lost.


As much as I like to mock France for their gross mismanagement of things, this ain’t it chief.

This is literally just a minor modification to make paperwork for same-sex couples easier and less embarrassing.

The denomination in question could use a change, but the intention is otherwise perfectly within the realm of normality.

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Postby Dazchan » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:48 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Shouldn't that be "Luc, I am your Parent 1"?


It shouldn’t even be that. For the purposes of school enrolment, the listed parents are the ones you live with. Luke’s adoptive parents would have been Parent 1 and Parent 2. Deadbeat Dad Vader wouldn’t have been listed at all. 8)
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Postby Yagon » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:48 am

Dazchan wrote:I have now checked all six Australian states. Three do not put their enrollment forms online, and of the three that do, they all use some variant of “Parent 1” and “Parent 2”. Is it newsworthy in France purely because they’re so late to the party?


Meanwhile, in my country there are probably rural counties where the form says "Cleaved Unto" and "Cleaving Unto", and the Sheriff constitutionally refuses to enforce the gun possession ban on domestic violence offenders...

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:27 am

That sounds stupid.

Why not just say guardians, or mother/mother father/father father/mother depending on who they are.
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Postby The United Chinese Republic » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:31 am

In my opinion, this is good in the paperwork sense, as same-sex couples don't have to be "irked" by mother/father. It's a bit useless though, and I agree with the proposal that "Primary Guardian" etc. should be used.
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:49 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:That sounds stupid.

Why not just say guardians, or mother/mother father/father father/mother depending on who they are.


I mean, to be fair, it will be slightly lesser work for the folks that fill in the paper. They don't have to do an additional "circle whichever is appropriate" and instead can just do "ahh, just fill in both of your names here... and here."

It's pretty convenient, if I say so myself. :)
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:53 am

Valentine Z wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:That sounds stupid.

Why not just say guardians, or mother/mother father/father father/mother depending on who they are.


I mean, to be fair, it will be slightly lesser work for the folks that fill in the paper. They don't have to do an additional "circle whichever is appropriate" and instead can just do "ahh, just fill in both of your names here... and here."

It's pretty convenient, if I say so myself. :)


I despise having to scritch-scratch on official documentation papers, so this minor modification is always welcome!

That said, it would be best to pick a denomination that isn’t so...cringe.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:59 am

There seems to be no such thing as a form that nobody will complain about.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:02 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:I despise having to scritch-scratch on official documentation papers, so this minor modification is always welcome!

That said, it would be best to pick a denomination that isn’t so...cringe.

Yes, I agree. They just need better wording, I would say.

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Postby Bloodshade » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:02 am

I think the change is good even though parent 1 and parent 2 sound dull.

As for why they couldn't do mother/mother or father/father, I can imagine that it'd be easy to mix up the parent's details if their titles are the same.
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