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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:20 am

What is more important; Gods or the laws you think they promote?

I think the Moses myth tells us the answer but am curious as to what you think.

A number of constitutions and religious thinking systems put man made laws above Gods and their laws. We have all heard the phrase; We are a Nation of laws, not of men or Gods.

Laws can be followed while supernatural Gods, imaginary to me but perhaps real to you, even though they are all absentee Gods, cannot be physically followed. Only their laws can be.

One of the archetypal Jesus’ said he would know his people by their works and deeds, which to me means following his laws, and that is partly why I put the best rules and laws I can find above all the Gods.

Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God?

If you follow the laws of a God; which God?
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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:01 am

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:02 am

Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer wrote:The one and only.

Ok, well I'm saying that the Laws of Allah SWT matter to me more than the laws of ShayTaan.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:10 am

If God’s laws weren’t completely arbitrary...
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:16 am

Prom is obviously way more important than God, prom can have lasting effects on the social life of a poor high schooler.

God either doesn't exist or isn't omniscient and is full of contempt
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:20 am

Wait a minute I think we're reading the question wrong.
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Postby Cossack Khanate » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:21 am

Valrifell wrote:Prom is obviously way more important than God, prom can have lasting effects on the social life of a poor high schooler.

God either doesn't exist or isn't omniscient and is full of contempt


The title was supposed to say promote, but it got cut off

I am a Hindu, so technically we believe all our gods were once human (except for the universal force of Brahman). How they ascended to a godly position we through being a near perfect human. Therefore, the laws they followed are more important than the gods themselves.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:22 am

Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer wrote:The one and only.


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Postby Valrifell » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:32 am

Cossack Khanate wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Prom is obviously way more important than God, prom can have lasting effects on the social life of a poor high schooler.

God either doesn't exist or isn't omniscient and is full of contempt


The title was supposed to say promote, but it got cut off

I am a Hindu, so technically we believe all our gods were once human (except for the universal force of Brahman). How they ascended to a godly position we through being a near perfect human. Therefore, the laws they followed are more important than the gods themselves.


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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:34 am

Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer wrote:Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God?

I am following the laws of the land. "God's" laws are far too arbitrary for me to follow, and I don't believe in any gods anyway, so I see no reason to take any holy books seriously.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:54 am

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Postby Cetacea » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:05 am

Oh God! with all the moral relativism and ambiguity these days I am so confused about what the Laws of Prom are

like is it acceptable for girls to ask guys to go? is it acceptable to bring a date who isnt a senior? Is it acceptable for same sex couples to dance - or do they just have to be 'going with a bunch of friends''? How short is acceptable for a dress? do guys have to wear a suit? is a corsage required? should not cool people be allowed in my presence? If I don't go to the Prom can I still come to the after party?

just what does God want me to know about Prom?
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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:25 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer wrote:The one and only.

Ok, well I'm saying that the Laws of Allah SWT matter to me more than the laws of ShayTaan.


How can that be when Allah is ShayTaan?

You musty just want all those virgins in heaven. Or were those just wide eyed grapes?

Look to your holy book and ask the talking frog.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:26 am

Cetacea wrote:Oh God! with all the moral relativism and ambiguity these days I am so confused about what the Laws of Prom are

like is it acceptable for girls to ask guys to go? is it acceptable to bring a date who isnt a senior? Is it acceptable for same sex couples to dance - or do they just have to be 'going with a bunch of friends'? How short is acceptable for a dress? do guys have to wear a suit? is of cosage required? should not cool people be allowed in my presence? If I don't go to the Prom can I still come to the after party?

just what does God want me to know about Prom?

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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:27 am

Kowani wrote:If God’s laws weren’t completely arbitrary...


Yep. The mood of the day dictates what the law will be, basically.

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Postby Xmara » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:27 am

Cetacea wrote:Oh God! with all the moral relativism and ambiguity these days I am so confused about what the Laws of Prom are

like is it acceptable for girls to ask guys to go? is it acceptable to bring a date who isnt a senior? Is it acceptable for same sex couples to dance - or do they just have to be 'going with a bunch of friends'? How short is acceptable for a dress? do guys have to wear a suit? is of cosage required? should not cool people be allowed in my presence? If I don't go to the Prom can I still come to the after party?

just what does God want me to know about Prom?

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Or were those the laws of thermodynamics?
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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:29 am

Valrifell wrote:Prom is obviously way more important than God, prom can have lasting effects on the social life of a poor high schooler.

God either doesn't exist or isn't omniscient and is full of contempt


He does seem to do a lot of hating.

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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:32 am

Cossack Khanate wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Prom is obviously way more important than God, prom can have lasting effects on the social life of a poor high schooler.

God either doesn't exist or isn't omniscient and is full of contempt


The title was supposed to say promote, but it got cut off

I am a Hindu, so technically we believe all our gods were once human (except for the universal force of Brahman). How they ascended to a godly position we through being a near perfect human. Therefore, the laws they followed are more important than the gods themselves.


As it should be.

The Eastern religions are for thinkers and the Western Christianity and Islam is for those who have gone into intellectual and moral dissonance and idol worship a genocidal son murdering God.

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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:35 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer wrote:Knowing that secular governments have rejected the laws of the Gods, are you living by the law of the land or the laws of God?

I am following the laws of the land. "God's" laws are far too arbitrary for me to follow, and I don't believe in any gods anyway, so I see no reason to take any holy books seriously.


Good for you buddy.

I hope you are moral enough to know that you should be fighting the religious ideologies out there that promote homophobia and misogyny.

Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

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Postby Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:37 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:The laws of man.


Basically based on the Golden Rule, I hope.

Let me ask you as well. Do you actively and verbally fight the more immoral and oppressive homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions?

Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

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Postby Xmara » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:42 am

And I see we’ve learned nothing from the last time...
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:44 am

Ophiuchus Serpent-bearer wrote:The one and only.


Oh Lord, here we go again.

Neither. In my eyes there is no difference between the Laws of Man and the Laws of God; they are one in the same.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:54 am

The laws of God are more important than the laws of man, but God commands people to follow the laws of man when they don't contradict God's law.

As for prom, I would like to know what God has to say about that. The Bible isn't very clear on the subject. :p
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