Time for a Monarchist Party in the USA?

[Catholic Britannia]

Crap no! I'd rather be in an anarchy than a monarchy.

heh, it might be looking at that

although since theres a State of Emergency to override Congress now it looks like you guys are getting the Dictator of your very own

They may as well pass the Enabling Acts.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Being a evangelical Protestant. I know that this poll is widely inaccurate save for the few crazy loonies or people who just chose that option as a joke. I for one, don’t believe our “chosen one” was destined for monarchy, our only and best emperor was Norton, and it will always be so long as america lives.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

If that king turns tyrannical, then we'll all be screwed. No thanks.

Yes but then we can storm our own Bastille!!

It also means that we'll have to bear our own period of French style post-revolutionary chaos, and that is not something I want to live through.

[Bienenhalde]

These fools who think Trump should be a king or an emperor are really quite an embarrassment to serious, reasonable monarchists...

[Internationalist Bastard]

These fools who think Trump should be a king or an emperor are really quite an embarrassment to serious, reasonable monarchists...

Exactly
We need properly bred autocrats

[Holy Tedalonia]

These fools who think Trump should be a king or an emperor are really quite an embarrassment to serious, reasonable monarchists...

Exactly
We need properly bred autocrats

Yes, because we want a return to incest :^)

[Valrifell]

Being a evangelical Protestant. I know that this poll is widely inaccurate save for the few crazy loonies or people who just chose that option as a joke. I for one, don’t believe our “chosen one” was destined for monarchy, our only and best emperor was Norton, and it will always be so long as america lives.

And the Protector of Mexico, bless the Imperial Majesty of these United States!

[Liriena]

Bringing back divine rights of kings to own the libs

[United Universal Union]

Hilarious joke

[Valrifell]

Bringing back divine rights of kings to own the libs

Franco tried that, didn't work.

[Liriena]

Exactly
We need properly bred autocrats

Yes, because we want a return to incest :^)

dat Habsburg jaw tho ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Liriena]

These fools who think Trump should be a king or an emperor are really quite an embarrassment to serious, reasonable monarchists...

Exactly
We need properly bred autocrats

But I was told our big wet adult son of a president had the best genes!

[South Acren]

I cant believe people are so idiotic now a days they want to revert the founding fathers ideas and go back to Monarchy. If they want it so bad move to England. America is too far away from being a monarchy and anyone who thinks we should be a monarchy clearly shouldn't be in a government position.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

These fools who think Trump should be a king or an emperor are really quite an embarrassment to serious, reasonable monarchists...

Authoritarian monarchism in itself is not a reasonable doctrine.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

These fools who think Trump should be a king or an emperor are really quite an embarrassment to serious, reasonable monarchists...

Authoritarian monarchism in itself is not a reasonable doctrine.

In my case, it depends on if the monarch is elected, and if the monarch is constitutional... if the monarch is both elected and constitutional (but maintains real executive authority/power, and serves the people for a lifelong term)... well, it's not really what most think of when they think of a monarch, but it'd be the ideal situation nonetheless.

An elected and constitutional philosopher king (or philosopher queen) of some kind would be ideal if we are to have a monarch, perhaps one elected by the upper house of the legislature? In the United States's case, this'd be the Senate, but ideally this'd be something similar to a corporatist council or something. I dunno, I'm just throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks, y'know? I apologize if I seem impolite.

[The New California Republic]

I sincerely doubt that such a party would have much support. It'd be on the fringe, with a handful of members.

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

They're both pretty remote but would monarchism be more likely than AI overlords?

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

They're both pretty remote but would monarchism be more likely than AI overlords?

What about both? A machine superintelligence serving as the benevolent and enlightened constitutional monarch of a united humanity.

[Persia-Kebabistan]

Being a evangelical Protestant. I know that this poll is widely inaccurate save for the few crazy loonies or people who just chose that option as a joke. I for one, don’t believe our “chosen one” was destined for monarchy, our only and best emperor was Norton, and it will always be so long as america lives.

Me before Norton:

"Ugh, monarchy is disaster."

Me after Norton:

"It is 100% absolutely clear that monarchy works. ALL HAIL EMPEROR NORTON!"

Yes, because we want a return to incest :^)

dat Habsburg jaw tho ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

The peak of human handsomeness.

[Kubra]

These fools who think Trump should be a king or an emperor are really quite an embarrassment to serious, reasonable monarchists...

Exactly
We need properly bred autocrats

with proper chins

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Bringing back divine rights of kings to own the libs

Franco tried that, didn't work.

The irony is that Franco considered offering the crown to either Otto von Habsburg (who refused) or the Carlists (who were much more in line with Franco’s traditionalist views...except the deep disagreement with the Carlist support for Basque and Catalan autonomy), but he offered it to Juan Carlos thinking he was less liberal than his father...

Based Juan Carlos of course restores a liberal constitutional monarchy after Franco’s death.

[Serrus]

Personally, if anyone wants a monarch in the US I wouldn't rally against them too hard if they had:
1. Does-nothing constitutionalism.
2. EITHER a Washington, Habsburg, or a member of the House of Orleans (all 3 still exist).

[US-SSR]

I was expecting an actual argument for and against monarchism, but all I see is "Make Trump King" and "King bad cause dictator and its old lol". I sleep once again.

Yeah, that's how NSG tends to work.

The idea of a "Monarchist Party" seems self-contradictory; a democratic political party trying to establish an autocratic leader? I also think purely ceremonial monarchs like that of the UK are stupid; the Queen has next to no power in political matters and is just sitting there costing taxpayers a combined total of over $400 million per year (source). That's way bigger of a leech than any realistic number of copies of your neighbour Bob who's too lazy to work and sits there collecting welfare checks.

That being said, I do think there is a need for a change in our political system. Confidence in the government is low, and we are increasingly polarized along party lines, especially during and since the 2016 election season. Personally I think most of the people currently in the federal government are lunatics, and I'm sick of stupid "he-said-she-said" crap in politics every day in the news and the inability for people to 1) drop the stick and move on and 2) actually collaborate with members of the other party as opposed to scheming against them.

My idea of an ideal ruler would be a benevolent autocrat (dictator or king) who favours small-government, libertarian, and right-wing policies, deriving his authority from a constitution that prevents him from getting too powerful. He is supported by a small cabinet of a dozen members or less who serve as his advisers, and this small government size can lead to low taxes of just 10-15% as a whole bunch of nearly useless positions don't need to be funded. Free-market economics and extensive civil rights would be in place, and the leader would use referendums to seek public opinion on new laws and influence his decision (though as leader, he has the ultimate say). Basically, it's constitutional autocracy with an element of direct democracy.

So you would favor a small group of oligarchs making decisions for everyone that would be in line with your particular prejudices plus not paying any tax. What's your beef with the Republican Party again?

[A Cornstar]

Bringing back divine rights of kings to own the libs

Divine Right is for plebs. Mandate of Heaven is where it's at.

[US-SSR]

One theme here seems to be the USA shouldn't revert to monarchy because it's had too much experience of democracy and/or republicanism.

Please name me another election-holding nation where the candidate who gets fewer votes wins office.

If God, at least in the opinion of half of those who call themselves Republicans, can veto the choice of 3,000,000 more actual small-d democratic voters, then what kind of "democracy" exactly prevails in the USA? And what's the difference between what we have and a divine right monarchy?

I pant for light.