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Should those who believe God wanted Trump as President just form a monarchist political party?

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Postby Wunderstrafanstalt » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:30 pm

If Trump is crowned, the King will be overthrown and it will be a showdown between General Secretary A.O. Kortyezh of the USASSR vs. Supreme Leader Spencer of the All-American Provisional Government.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:31 pm

Cetacea wrote:As much as you all have my sympathies, you uncouth American rabble lack the Traditional values or Cultural worthiness to rise to the greatness of Her Majesty's Monarchy, by the Grace of God of Great Britain and Her Commonwealth

I fear that given the Deseret traditions and innate sense of American exceptionalism, that an American Monarchist movement would tend towards the Imperial Cults of Ancient Rome or (ironically) the Shia Caliphates


We make up for our lack of traditional values and cultural worthiness by being superior to the British Empire in all regards all while maintaining only a fraction of the physical territory.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:32 pm

Yes, it's time for monarchism. I, for one, would vote for it at every opportunity. It sure beats having to vote for republicans every year. Plus, it can be the only alternative to the two-party system that can stand a chance.
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Postby The National Salvation Front for Russia » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:33 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:Yes, it's time for monarchism. I, for one, would vote for it at every opportunity. It sure beats having to vote for republicans every year. Plus, it can be the only alternative to the two-party system that can stand a chance.

That's a strange sentiment, considering monarchism is an extremely fringe group in America.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:34 pm

Minachia wrote:
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I don't care what you want. I don't care what Europe does. America was founded on the principles of a representative democracy; a constitutional republic built by, for, and with the people. There is no room for a monarch in our system; there is no place for a monarch in our system. Monarchies are relics of a bygone age.

Keep that shit on the other side of the Atlantic where it belongs.

“We were founded on it so that makes it right.”


Who said anything about being right? We were founded on so that makes it part of our national identity. If you don't like that, you're welcome to leave.

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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
I don't care what you want. I don't care what Europe does. America was founded on the principles of a representative democracy; a constitutional republic built by, for, and with the people. There is no room for a monarch in our system; there is no place for a monarch in our system. Monarchies are relics of a bygone age.

Keep that shit on the other side of the Atlantic where it belongs.


You were founded on the principle of low taxes under a representational democracy, where only the land owners could vote, as they had a bigger stake in the country's well being. "Monarchies are relics of a bygone age" isn't an argument. I'm not arguing for an American monarchy btw. I'm simply stating my reasons for wanting one in general.


You've confused the backdrop for the War of Independence with the contents of the Constitution.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:34 pm

Unithonia wrote:

Yeah, but they were ruled by the Doge
That disqualifies them
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:35 pm

At this point
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Postby Xmara » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:36 pm

Didn't we declare independence because we didn't want to be a monarchy?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:37 pm

Xmara wrote:Didn't we declare independence because we didn't want to be a monarchy?

Well no we declared independence because we weren’t represented in Parliament
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Postby Minachia » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:38 pm

Xmara wrote:Didn't we declare independence because we didn't want to be a monarchy?

Kind of, kind of not; George III and Parliament were being Colonial Master a-holes, it wasn't so much anti-Monarchy as it was anti-Imperial Britain-not-respecting-colonial-rights.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:39 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:At this point
Fuck it sure


You disappoint me Alex. You've joined the ranks of Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis, and Donald Trump.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:40 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:At this point
Fuck it sure


You disappoint me Alex. You've joined the ranks of Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis, and Donald Trump.

You mistake me
I only want a monarch for the aesthetic of it
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:41 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
You disappoint me Alex. You've joined the ranks of Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis, and Donald Trump.

You mistake me
I only want a monarch for the aesthetic of it


The revolutionary republic aesthetic is way better
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:42 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
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You disappoint me Alex. You've joined the ranks of Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis, and Donald Trump.

You mistake me
I only want a monarch for the aesthetic of it


The aesthetic is and has always been tacky.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:42 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:You mistake me
I only want a monarch for the aesthetic of it


The aesthetic is and has always been tacky.

How dare you
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:43 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
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You disappoint me Alex. You've joined the ranks of Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis, and Donald Trump.

Wait, so I'm arguing against it, but am for it depending on how it is, but overall would be opposed even if I liked it unless they changed my skeptical opinion, am I at their ranks yet or simply a skeptic who's open minded?


Honestly you just sound like a centrist at this point.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:43 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:You mistake me
I only want a monarch for the aesthetic of it

....

That's the main reasonn I made Lotharia a monarchy tbh.

That and ease of character creation and cool dynastic wars and the like.

Like real talk I dislike monarchies outside of purely ceremonial roles
But I love the pomp and circumstance
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Postby Toaslandia » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:44 pm

If my history is correct, didn't we declare independence so we wouldn't be ruled by a monarchy?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The aesthetic is and has always been tacky.

I think it's elegant, honestly.

Republican aesthetics seem to bland.


Fascist aesthetics are too edgy.

Communist aesthetics are tasteless.

Eh I can like Communist aesthetic
I agree fascist aesthetic is edgy but I mean I’m edgy
Republican aesthetic is only cool with Romans or Venetians or something
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Toaslandia wrote:If my history is correct, didn't we declare independence so we wouldn't be ruled by a monarchy?


No, people were miffed at their taxes without representation and rebelled.

Though the Republican model was the most logical follow-up.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
You disappoint me Alex. You've joined the ranks of Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis, and Donald Trump.

You mistake me
I only want a monarch for the aesthetic of it

You want the aesthetics of entitled cousin fuckers lording over the common people by dint of family heritage?
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Postby East Lodge » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:46 pm

It would be interesting to see happen....

Maybe
Wait Trump.

No.
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Postby Toaslandia » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:46 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:If my history is correct, didn't we declare independence so we wouldn't be ruled by a monarchy?


No, people were miffed at their taxes without representation and rebelled.

Though the Republican model was the most logical follow-up.

Right, the taxes thing. But still, I would prefer to not live in a country ruled by a monarch, mainly because I like voting for our leaders.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:46 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The aesthetic is and has always been tacky.

How dare you
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Are these the guards wearing tights or the ones with frills?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:47 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:You mistake me
I only want a monarch for the aesthetic of it

You want the aesthetics of entitled cousin fuckers lording over the common people by dint of family heritage?

Yeah, actually
The titles, the privilege, the wealth
I despise it’s corruption but it’s corruption so wrapped in its own gilding it looks beautiful
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