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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:02 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
The elephant trunk. Yep.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:08 pm
by First American Empire
Hammer Britannia wrote:I'm personally a Greek "Pagan" because... well... faith mostly. There was no great revelation where Zeus himself talked to me in a dream, or I prayed to Poseidon for my ship to not crash during a bad storm and the storm subsided (Though, the Gods really don't work like that, they're way more chaotic). I ask again though, what separates your god(s) from mine?


Nothing. We literally worship the same Gods.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:39 pm
by Farnhamia
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:My God wasn’t born by being vomited up from a murder and doesn’t have an absurdly terrible family. He also doesn’t have hundreds of wifes including his sister and hasn’t repeatedly threatened all of humanity with lightning bolts. Besides that, nothing but tons of messed up things Zeus did in the myths. That’s not counting many other ‘gods’ in Greek myths. I have to give it to the ancient Greeks though. The Bible is boring while their far fetched tales are actually fun to read. Your stories do not set any plausible or favorable information about deities, but it does give an insight into what Greek civilization was at the time and is an important piece of culture worth preserving in books.

Zeus wasn't born by being vomited up. He was born, like his siblings, but his mother, Rhea, hid him away and gave Cronus a rock to swallow. When Zeus came of age he forced his father to disgorge everything he'd swallowed. There was a war between the Gods and the Titans, Cronus was killed, many of the Titans were, too. This is why the team doesn't appear in many playoff games.

Anyway, my point is, get the facts straight when you disparage someone else's religion.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:43 pm
by Tsuki
It's the moon

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:43 pm
by Farnhamia
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:So how is an atheist supposed to go about answering this question?

Just ignore it.

It's that simple.

No need to butt in to a thread if you just have no reason to say anything unless it's replying to the religious people. Else you're just saying "Not applicable to me." in a too long of a group of words if that makes sense, no disrespect meant, just my personal thoughts.

You're no fun. You've been around long enough to know that all threads must be posted in!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:52 pm
by Farnhamia
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're no fun. You've been around long enough to know that all threads must be posted in!

BEGONE, DEMON! >:(

*cackles & disappears in a cloud of sulfurous smoke*

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:59 pm
by Korhal IVV
The Christian God is the only God that saves the elect, and not the elect trying to outweigh their bad deeds with good deeds from a to do list.

Out of all the religions, Christianity is unique due to one word: grace.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:00 pm
by Lux Pulchrae
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Isn’t the Abrahamic God the same across all Abrahamic religions?

I’m pretty sure that God, Yawheh and Allah are the same damn entity.


They all claim lineage from Abraham the Jews to Christians is an obviously direct line. Muslims claim to do so too but they just took traditions from the other two and made up their own theology.

Now the Jews, not only are the Jews of today not the Jews from the bible, but because they remain and adhere to the old testament faith, they are also no longer God's chosen people. As Jesus Christ has come to us as the new covenant to be made in Him. And the Christian God is the God of the Holy Trinity.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:17 pm
by Genivaria
Korhal IVV wrote:The Christian God is the only God that saves the elect, and not the elect trying to outweigh their bad deeds with good deeds from a to do list.

Out of all the religions, Christianity is unique due to one word: grace.

Translation: Shifting responsibility.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:19 pm
by Korhal IVV
Genivaria wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:The Christian God is the only God that saves the elect, and not the elect trying to outweigh their bad deeds with good deeds from a to do list.

Out of all the religions, Christianity is unique due to one word: grace.

Translation: Shifting responsibility.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:40 pm
by Salus Maior
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Can your god do this?

(Image)

Yeah didnt think so. Sigmar is my godly broski


THIS POST HAS MY CONSENT.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:47 pm
by Salus Maior
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Isn’t the Abrahamic God the same across all Abrahamic religions?

I’m pretty sure that God, Yawheh and Allah are the same damn entity.


I'm fairly certain that Muslims and Jews outright reject Christ as being God. So I don't think it can be reasonably said from a theological perspective that we worship "the same God" when the others outright reject what we recognize as God.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:03 pm
by Hanafuridake
Korhal IVV wrote:The Christian God is the only God that saves the elect, and not the elect trying to outweigh their bad deeds with good deeds from a to do list.

Out of all the religions, Christianity is unique due to one word: grace.


This makes no sense. Every religion has theological concepts unique to themselves, unconditional election is no different. Grace, in this case, is not even an exclusive religious belief to Christianity, it can be found in numerous faiths. Pure Land Buddhism asserts that the practitioner is saved by the vow of Amida Buddha, for instance.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:30 pm
by The Grims
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:So how is an atheist supposed to go about answering this question?


With the famous "once you understand why you dismiss all other gods, you'll realise why I also dismiss yours". quote?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:33 pm
by Neanderthaland

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:21 am
by Western Vale Confederacy
Neanderthaland wrote:Curves


Even our distant ancestors understood that thicc was an important factor.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:39 am
by Uxupox
Hammer Britannia wrote:I've seen many arguments for their religion ranging from Hindus to Christians, all of which claim that the universe was created by a deity and because the universe would be impossible without a deity, their is one named *Insert their religion here*. Now while I do believe they bring up some good points, something has always bugged me about it... the end. Why exactly does this intelligent deity need to be your god in particular?

For the record, this is not why you believe in a deity. I don't care about that. I'm questioning why you believe in the deity(ies). What separates your one particular religion from all the "false" ones?

I'm personally a Greek "Pagan" because... well... faith mostly. There was no great revelation where Zeus himself talked to me in a dream, or I prayed to Poseidon for my ship to not crash during a bad storm and the storm subsided (Though, the Gods really don't work like that, they're way more chaotic). I ask again though, what separates your god(s) from mine?


Theological concepts, system of morality, issues of salvation, metaphorical stories and etc. The vast majority of reeligió a have numerous differences. Other topics such as dualism, monotheism and polytheism also come into play that differentiate from one and another.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:01 am
by Internationalist Bastard
My god has better anime feats

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:02 am
by Korhal IVV
Hanafuridake wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:The Christian God is the only God that saves the elect, and not the elect trying to outweigh their bad deeds with good deeds from a to do list.

Out of all the religions, Christianity is unique due to one word: grace.


This makes no sense. Every religion has theological concepts unique to themselves, unconditional election is no different. Grace, in this case, is not even an exclusive religious belief to Christianity, it can be found in numerous faiths. Pure Land Buddhism asserts that the practitioner is saved by the vow of Amida Buddha, for instance.

Buddhism rejects a deity though?

And another unique word: love.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:13 am
by Saiwania
The best guess for the Egyptian Pharaoh of Exodus is allegedly Amenhotep II.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:21 am
by Risottia
Hammer Britannia wrote:What separates your one particular religion from all the "false" ones?

My stance on religion (that is, irreligion) is consistent with humanity's experimental observation and is coherent with Occam's razor and Russell's teapot.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:24 am
by Hanafuridake
Korhal IVV wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
This makes no sense. Every religion has theological concepts unique to themselves, unconditional election is no different. Grace, in this case, is not even an exclusive religious belief to Christianity, it can be found in numerous faiths. Pure Land Buddhism asserts that the practitioner is saved by the vow of Amida Buddha, for instance.

Buddhism rejects a deity though?

And another unique word: love.


That would be a complete surprise to me and the millions of other Buddhists who worship gods. The notion of a Creator God is rejected, not the existence of deities altogether.

Karaniya Metta Sutta wrote:Let none deceive another,
Or despise any being in any state.
Let none through anger or ill-will
Wish harm upon another.
Even as a mother protects with her life
Her child, her only child,
So with a boundless heart
Should one cherish all living beings;
Radiating kindness over the entire world:
Spreading upwards to the skies,
And downwards to the depths;
Outwards and unbounded,
Freed from hatred and ill-will.
Whether standing or walking,
seated or lying down.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:25 am
by Genivaria
Korhal IVV wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
This makes no sense. Every religion has theological concepts unique to themselves, unconditional election is no different. Grace, in this case, is not even an exclusive religious belief to Christianity, it can be found in numerous faiths. Pure Land Buddhism asserts that the practitioner is saved by the vow of Amida Buddha, for instance.

Buddhism rejects a deity though?

And another unique word: love.

Not all Buddhism no, and no love is not unique to Christianity.
Hell there are many religions which have a designated God(dess) OF Love.

You should seriously actually study other religions before you try to pass some kind of judgement on them.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:32 am
by The New California Republic
Korhal IVV wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
This makes no sense. Every religion has theological concepts unique to themselves, unconditional election is no different. Grace, in this case, is not even an exclusive religious belief to Christianity, it can be found in numerous faiths. Pure Land Buddhism asserts that the practitioner is saved by the vow of Amida Buddha, for instance.

Buddhism rejects a deity though?

And another unique word: love.

Love isn't unique to Christianity.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:34 am
by Hanafuridake
Genivaria wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Buddhism rejects a deity though?

And another unique word: love.

Not all Buddhism no, and no love is not unique to Christianity.
Hell there are many religions which have a designated God(dess) OF Love.

You should seriously actually study other religions before you try to pass some kind of judgement on them.


I would make the argument that all forms of Buddhism recognize the existence of deities, but that might be derailing.